• Me-Myself&I said on Jul 27, 2009....

  ((((((((((((((((((((HUG)))))))))))))))))) that hurts! i am so sorry.

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 27, 2009....

  Memy - thanks.  Hugs help.

• the_infernal_optimist said on Jul 27, 2009....

  How the hell can she sue *you* if you don't have any legal ties to the property?? Gah, some people...
  
  ((massive hugs)) It's bullshit like that that reminds me why we get to choose our heart family. I'm sorry you're going through this, Leafy.
  
  ~Infernal
  

• woman said on Jul 27, 2009....

  I'm so sorry for you Uni. I guess this proves that some people are just not cut out to be mothers. (this just doesn't make sense, on top of being cold as heck!) Hugs........

• queenparanoia said on Jul 27, 2009....

  why would your mother sue you???? seriously... she's your mother!!!!

   

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 27, 2009....

  TIO - unfortunately everyone has the right to file lawsuits against perfectly innocent and uninvolved people.

  woman - yes, apparently some people should not be allowed to be parents

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 27, 2009....

  queenie - I really can't tell you why she'd do it.  This is the second time she's sued me over the same piece of property

• quietone said on Jul 27, 2009....

  Well, this is just plain stupid indeed!  What a pain in the butt for you to have to go through this again.  I am sure it will come out alright, but I know that is NOT the point here.......  {{{{{hugs}}}}  I do know however about some "mothers" and I do use that term lightly.

• CreativeWoman said on Jul 27, 2009....

  uni,
  I'm so sorry you have to go through this. I don't know what to say, but I can offer you a ((((hug)))).
  
  CW
  

• pusscat said on Jul 28, 2009....

  I'm so sorry you're having to go through this again uni.  You certainly don't deserve it and you don't need it.  I'm not even gonna use the 'M' word for her as anyone can open their legs, get preggers and give birth. 
  
  It will turn out all right as you say, no connection for you legally with that land but I understand the sheer frustration of it all!!  Hang in there kiddo :-*  :-*  :-*
  

• Hegemone said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Uni I am so damn sorry to hear that this bull crap happened.  That is just absolutely insane, unfair and plain not right.  I hope you'll be able to get through this quickly and get yourself out of the mess before she can screw with you too much.  Some people are just ruthless and it makes me mad enough to spit.  I wouldn't think that you could be held legally responsible though since you no longer have any legal claim to the property, so while she may make life hard for you, in all other ways you should be out of it.  I know, I know, if only it were that simple.  (((((HUG)))))
  

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  quiet - well, I'm not at all sure I'm come out of this okay.  I'm already on the brink of poverty and if by some chance she manages to get a judge to award her money I'm completely screwed.

  CW - thanks

  puss - frustration doesn't begin to cover it

  Hege - she is using  me plain and simply as a way to try to reduce the amount of money she will have to fork over to my exboyfriend.  Makes me feel special. :(

• wolfafterurazz said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Just tell the courts and take the judgement with you from the last time she sued you and they will dismiss it. she can't keep suing you for the same thing a judgement is final! ~wolf~

• mixednuts said on Jul 28, 2009....

  I know of agreat lawyer in your area. Pro bono? You'll need to ask him. You'll win this!

  Mothers can be bitches!

• mixednuts said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Wolf is correct, and if she loses ( which she will ) she pays the court and lawyer!

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  wolf - which is what I will do, but that will require me to miss work (income) and pay for travel to the court it's being heard in which is 300 miles from where I live.  I may not have to pay her anything but she will be costing me yet more.

  mixed - I'd love to find a lawyer pro bono!  That's all I can afford right now.

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  mixed - yes, but I'm still out the other incidental expenses, and unless I counter sue her for them I will not get them.  I can't afford representation and have no idea how to file papers myself.

• travelr712 said on Jul 28, 2009....

  well that just sucks!

• mixednuts said on Jul 28, 2009....

  This is one big mess she created. If you win she pays it all! You will need a lawyer iether way=paperwork etc. Counter sue! Never be your own lawyer!

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  trav - yes, hairy camel nuts

  mixed - I know I need a lawyer, but being able to pay for one is another matter.

• mixednuts said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Lawyers will take payments, but she will lose anyway so it may not be a problemo anyway!

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  mixed - most lawyers need a retainer up front. (past experience with real estate attorneys)  I'm sure she will lose, but she's going to cost me money either way.

• wombat said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Just reading and sorry to hear of this.  Not familiar with the situation (and astounded by it, frankly) but offer my good thoughts for you for this to be resolved quickly and easily for you.

  {{{{{{{ and one of my hugs }}}}}}}

  wombie

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  wombie - thanks, I doubt anything legal can be settled quickly but that would be nice.

• lovetheresarose said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Some mothers are serious dicks to their children.
  
  I am so so so sorry yours is being vindictive.. for whatever reason it may be.
  
  Just fight back and show her you're better than whatever life lessons she taught you anyways.
  
  
  
  

• wishyouwerehere said on Jul 28, 2009....

  ((((((((((((((Uni))))))))))))))))
   
  Big giant squishy hugs - Love, Wishy

• Lucytorial said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Uni ~ Please go through the phone book for a pro bono lawyer, go to your local fucking salvo's ask them where you can find one... don't roll over on this its fucking wrong!
   
  Have you actually thought of calling your mom and asking her what the fuck she thinks she's doing?
   
  Ohh man I am so sorry and angry to hear this.

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  love - no reason, she's just showing how greedy she is
   
  wishy - thanks
   
  Lu - I've called a few places, but because it's civil court no one will touch it.  I left a very nasty message on my mother's phone, called her attorney (waste of breath) and send my exboyfriend a nasty email.  As is their usual M.O.  everyone denies knowing anything and can't (or won't) talk about anything.

• Lucytorial said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Man I have to say that I have never heard of a mother suing her daughter.... what a bitch sorry I know I don't know your mom but that my dear is a corrupt person.
   
  Essentially if you go you have costs, if you go and lose you are screwed BUT if you go and you don't lose you merely have costs and then the whole sordid mess is done right? Can't civil courts there make her pay your expenses? they do here if the defendant is found to be out of context to the suit itself.

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Lu - I thought this whole mess was ruled on in 2003.  To recover my costs I need to hire an attorney, which will cost me.  If I try to file myself I may screw it up worse than it already is.  This is twice she's sacrificed my mental health to serve her greed.  She's dead to me.

• Lucytorial said on Jul 28, 2009....

  I can understand that, I have a question - are you able to file for personal bancuptcy? there would be no point suing if you are already screwed? its harsh I know but certainly it will make your life far simpler in the long run... especially from your mothers grasp.

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Lu - at this point no, there's no point to it.  Her complaint is that I promised her a lifetime tenancy on the property (which I no longer own) which I never did.  She is also claiming that she paid attorneys fees for me, which she did only because she refused to hand over my 1/2 of all collected rents.  Basically she's trying to reduce the judgement that my exboyfriend will more than likely win by making these outrageous claims.  So, filing bankruptcy won't really affect that.  Since I no longer have any property she cannot file to claim what I don't have.

• Lucytorial said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Big ole case of using huh? basically though the court can't order you to pay any money though because you aren't connected to the case.  listen it doesn't make snse legally:
   
  Mother sues daughter for property, property is handed to mother daughter no longer has an legal responsibility to it.
   
  Mother gets sued by ex boyfriend for rent due - mother counter sues stating that daughter TOLD her she could have the place rent free in lieu of legal fee's.  Case is laughed out of court as daughter has no legal binding contract stating "free tenancy", no legal right to offer it as property is not in daughters name.
   
  Mother is told to pay rent due and pay ex boyrfriends legals.
   
  Could happen that way if the judge is smart he won't let it go further than that.
   
  Seriously how can you state free tenancy when the property is not owned by you - dahh doesn't make sense.

• Lucytorial said on Jul 28, 2009....

  not free tenancy but lifetime tenancy you cannot simply offer that if the property is not yours.

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  Lu - I think she's hoping that the courts will rule that since she owns 1/2 the property that they will hand down a decision that makes it illegal for my exboyfriend to sell the property.  That is his goal, to sell the property and get his 1/2 of the money after expenses.  As for the tenancy thing, it never happened.  I don't think they're coming after anything I own (which is nothing) but using me as a weapon against each other to gain more money.  Basically I'm being used ... again.

• RollingC said on Jul 28, 2009....

  I know that hurts.....I'm keeping you in my prayers Uni.....
  You can find a pro-bono lawyer (not sure what exactly it means) on the internet....you can find anything on the net nowadays.
  Wishing you the best....
  Rc...♥
  

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  RC - thanks for the prayers.  Maybe you can pray there's an attorney that is crazy enough to take on a case that covers the entire length of California for free.

• D6fer said on Jul 28, 2009....

  unique....that is so weird....I cant imagine any mother doing that to her kid.....care to explain your history with her?

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  D6fer - there's nothing I could tell you that would make her actions and greed seem justifiable.  Until I filed for divorce from my ex we had a decent relationship.  I always provided as much as I could for her.  The minute I told her I would need to sell the marital property she was living on for free she went mental on me and sued me and anyone she thought might benefit her.

• travelr712 said on Jul 28, 2009....

  and we all know how hairy camel nuts taste!

• uniquely-ironic said on Jul 28, 2009....

  trav - not like chicken ;)

• D6fer said on Jul 28, 2009....

  wow....that's cold.

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