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I have trouble believing that "Thriller" came out in 1982. That seems like just the other day except for all the Jackson water that has passed under the bridge. I think just about everyone bought that album. As I understand it, "Thriller" has sold more copies than any other album. I still have a copy. Hmmm. Wonder what that is worth now.

I liked Michael even when he was with the Jackson Five. He has to be the best Moon Walker ever. He invented that, right. Try as I might, white men cannot moon walk, or at least this one cannot.

Michael did really well, but he kind of pooped out a while back. First he messed up his looks trying to look like Elizabeth Taylor (I think he had a crush on her). Then his actions became questionable in regards to some of this dealings with minors, children who stayed over and slept in the same bed with him. I do not know any of that first hand, of course, but I am pretty sure it is all true since he wound up in court several times. Of course, it is politically incorrect to find a black person guilty of anything these days (O.J. leaps to mind) so Michael was never sent to prison, which is a shame. He could have remade "Jailhouse Rock" and outdone Elvis in every way.

I stopped caring about Michael even before all the child molestation accusations started because he was getting a little too Howard Hughes to suit me. I mean the guy was wearing a face mask around for a while to avoid strange particles from outer space, or something. Who knows what the warped mind is thinking in these cases. I think people like Jackson and Hughes get so powerful and rich they lose sight of reality. They start believing the world cannot go on without them so they try their best to live forever. Of course, they usually end up doing themselves in, one way or the other. I am sure we will hear more about all that as time goes on and the media gets down to the autopsy they usually perform on their dearly departed comrades.

No matter what I thought of him, it is still sad to see someone as talented, and as young, as Jackson leave this world. Of course, he made it longer than some of his peers in the music business, like Buddy Holly (dead at 22), Elvis (dead at 42), and John Lennon (dead at 40). Jackson would have been 51 on August 29. Holly died in an accident and Lennon was shot by an assassin. We should know soon enough if Jackson, like Elvis, was the cause of his own death. We can only hope not.

I think maybe Jackson had lost favor with most non-blacks. Most of the gatherings of mourners (if that is a good way to describe the screaming, laughing, sign-waving fans) I have seen on TV are predominantly black. Maybe white people are just reluctant to join in the wake (festivities?) for fear of being blamed for Jackson's death. Again, remembering O.J., that is probably not that far fetched.

However, please remember this, I have a record album by Michael Jackson. I also have Ray Charles albums and a CD by Billie Holiday. I would not give you a nickel for a rap recording, but Michael Jackson was a real musician. I will remember him for that, not the weird lifestyle he fell into in recent years. I would imagine God will forget about all that, too. Of course, Michael may be reporting to Allah. He had turned to Islam the last I heard. So he may be Moon Walking on fire right now. Again, let us hope not. He deserves better for all the entertainment he brought the world.



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  • beyondtheveil said on Jun 26, 2009....
    I always liked Michael Jackson from the beginning, although I never bought any of his music. It was good, just not music I wanted to carry with me. He was a great talent, no doubt about that.

    His 'child' problems bothered me of course, but pedophilia was not proven beyond doubt.  He could have been telling the truth, perhaps as he saw it.

    The thing I don't understand was his looks. He was a good looking kid and he was a good looking young man. Then he took those looks and destroyed them. On purpose. With big money.

    Something's missing I don't know about.
  • ALIENated said on Jun 26, 2009....

    I am not sure either. I think having lots of money (unless maybe you are born into a family that has always had money) and fame warps some people. Even people born into money seem to think the rules do not apply to them, and they are right to a certain degree. Look at Ted Kennedy. He should have gone to prison or been executed. Instead, he is a state senator.

    As I said, the media will give us all the information we need in the coming days and years as it did with Elvis. We are probably going to learn a lot of things that were kept quiet while Jackson was alive for fear of being cut off or whatever. And it makes no difference. How much does the man on the street know about the private lives of Bach or Beethoven? Only their music lives on.

  • Lucytorial said on Jun 26, 2009....
    I tend to let the weird shit slide Alien, he was a great musician and performer.  I grew up dancing and singing to his songs - an icon now gone.
  • Cussane said on Jun 26, 2009....
    Not in the least and you dont settle for 23 million when you are innocent Cussane
  • gingersoul said on Jun 26, 2009....
    Not at all.
  • doortoinsanity said on Jun 26, 2009....
    I loved Michael Jackson and I have Thriller, of course.  He was a true star.  I think some of his stuff sucked, but I have listened to him since I was a kid.  If I had the money, I would go stand for him.  The molesting stuff,  the true criminals here are the parents of the children.  They were prostituting their kids knowingly.  They are proof that scum exists.  It's easier to settle and make it go away.  That's all the parents wanted anyway.  Money.  He dealt with a lot of stigma and wasn't healthy enough to do this next tour.  I think he knew all of this, and died a good death.    
  • hotaka said on Jun 26, 2009....
    I was looking to find an MJ post on SC today. I could write a comment long enough to be worthy of my own post but I will try to keep it brief.
    Michael Jackson was a talented performer back in the day. Around the time that I first started watching Friday Night Videos in hopes of seeing a rare heavy metal video MJ was on every Friday night. I think the first video I ever saw on that show was Billy Jean. Of course I disliked MJ's music. It wasn't my style. But looking back he had talent and he was great.

    Yes, it seems he went the way of Howard H. I remember MJ sleeping in an oxygen bubble or something. I remember the totally unexpected and incomprehensible marriage to Lisa Presley. I remember the chimp, Macauly Caulkin (or however you spell his name), Neverland, holding a baby over a balcony, and all the facial weirdness that went on. And in spite of all that, MJ was welcomed by screaming adoring fans wherever he went. Weird though he was, he had a name like a living legend and his face was as recognizable around the world as an alien visitor cum celebrity would be (in MJ's case, a celebrity cum alien).

    Throughout all my contemporary music life MJ was there, doing something or doing nothing, he was there. It's weird to think that the world will still keep turning as always. I guess we'll see lots of DVDs, compilation CD box sets, biographies, previously unreleased footage and recordings, and so on. Maybe he didn't really die but faked his death and moved to South Georgia Island to escape his creditors. I am sure the tabliods will be reporting Michael sightings over the next couple of decades.

    Michael Jackson is dead, but he's not gone.
  • ALIENated said on Jun 26, 2009....

    And in spite of all that, MJ was welcomed by screaming adoring fans wherever he went.

    Yes, fans tend to worship the creation instead of the creator.

    I mostly liked his earlier music, but I never really understood all the grabbing of his privates. Well, I kind of understand it more now I suppose.

  • hotaka said on Jun 26, 2009....
    Well, Steven Tyler of Aerosmith once said that in all his years in the music business his privates were about the only thing the industry didn't try to take, so he had to hang on real tight.
  • Hegemone said on Jun 26, 2009....
    Well, yes, all that other stuff aside, he made some major influencial changes in the music industry.  I was never a die hard fan of his, and aside from each time it became center stage news, I never really followed news stories about him much ... but I think I'll still miss him a little, or the media image of him perhaps?
  • D6fer said on Jun 26, 2009....
    don't believe I will miss Michael.....I bought the "off the wall" album when I was a teen and michael still appeared normal.....he was a extremely talented individual....I have heard that some people have a psychological disorder that makes them continuously get plastic surgery.....it is similar to anorexia......I would go into detail about why I won't miss him, but many people love the guy and now is not the time. 
  • Psych-ed said on Jun 27, 2009....
    I was never really a fan so I won't miss him. I am a little upset that his death has overshadowed Farah Fawcett's. I loved her and I'm going to get my hair feathered to pay tribute.
  • CreativeWoman said on Jun 27, 2009....
    I really liked Michael Jackson right up until the Thriller days.  I cannot deny his talent.  I will say that I became repulsed by him as all those child molestation charges kept mounting.  I saw that interview on television a few years ago where he talked about the Jesus juice and sleeping with boys.  It threw up a lot of red flags for me.  I refused to listen to him music after that. Talent cannot dismiss such bizarre and questionable behavior.

    Maybe I am in the minority, but that's how I feel.  It is a shame that he died so young.

    CW
  • Psych-ed said on Jun 27, 2009....
    I agree with you CW, I stopped listening to his music too,
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 27, 2009....

    He will be missed for the incredible talent that he was.  Its odd for me to think of him as dead he's just always been.  Thriller came out the year BEFORE I was born.  There has simply always been Micheal.  Every five or so years he'd put out an album and generally it would be great.  At least Bad and Dangerous.  It was simply a way of life.  Good job ALIEN, good job.

    One day you'll have to let me get you turned on to some rap though.  Not nearly all of it is half as bad as you think.  There is a world beyond Gangsta Rap (which basically died in the late 90's anyway.

  • winterjewel said on Jun 27, 2009....

    i will miss his genius. I wasn't a huge fan of his more recent work, but the fact that he was a genuis is undeniable. It sucks that every genius has to suffer in another area of their life to kind of balance out the greatness they live with. Artistic genuis is a wonderful boon to an ugly world though and regardless of the scandals and the tabliods i will miss that from him.

    His family has been through alot over the years, i do hope that the masses of fans allow them to mourn the loss of their own in peace.

  • secretlife said on Jun 27, 2009....
    I miss how he used to be-  and i was really hoping that this 50 concert thing would be a come-back for him---
    i will always be the person routing for the underdog- hoping for the happy ending, or praying for redemption. 
    i have no idea if the child molestation charges were true- i would think there must have been some basis for them, but also believe the parents of those kids were equally "sick" for allowing them to have sleepovers with a grown man.  anyone with 1/2 a brain could feel there was something wrong there. 
    I can't imagine living my entire life on a stage, without any privacy - isolated in that fame-
    he had so many demons-  all that plastic surgery- his skin going from black to white- always being accepted as a man/boy.  that is sick too-  all the eccentriciites-mask, glove, bubble, and on and one and on. 
    but there is no arguing he was truly a talent.
    i've been listening to Thriller..........remembering those days- the joy he seemed to have performing and dancing and singing.
    will i miss him?  i think i will miss what he represented.  i think it's very sad that he died without achieving some type of redemption.  it's like an unhappy ending- or an unfinished life.
     
    just sad.
     
    ALIEN, I've missed seeing you at the top of the list on SC, so it was a nice surprise this morning to log in and see you there!
  • MsStar39 said on Jun 27, 2009....
    I Loved Michael Jackson and will definitely miss him. I was saddened by the child molestation charges and the color change plus the many messed up plastic surgeries that he had that left him eventually without a nose.
    The man was a genius and I still love his music, he was an Icon that will be missed world wide and right now i want to remember the good and not the bad.

    On Ebay the Thriller album is getting top dollar and my doll is woth about $400 dollars which I think that I am finally going to sell.
  • somethingunUSual said on Jun 27, 2009....
    As far as I'm concerned he's been dead for about 10 years. Miss him? He ain't goin' anywhere. Try to avoid him. I just stopped seeing Elvis everywhere last week. Dead stars are far more popular than living ones.
  • ALIENated said on Jun 28, 2009....

    You have a point there. I often think, when I see pictures of Marilyn Monroe, what a babe she was. And then I think of her rotting corpse in the ground. Even if she was still alive she would be pretty old and wrinkled. Memories are certainly better than reality. With all the video of dead stars still around, it is hard to believe they are gone. The only way I saw them when they were alive was on TV or in a movie, and I can still see most of them that way. I suppose the big difference is that you never here anything new that they have done. You eventually get tired of watching them do what you have seen them do a hundred times.

  • javadewd said on Jun 29, 2009....
    I actually went to MJ's tour in KC when he reunited with his four or so brothers when I was a kid (1985-6?). It was a great concert, but when he got weird, I lost all interest. I'll miss the Motown tributes, red and black jacket, white glitter glove and MTV moon walking, but you can keep the rest... I miss Elvis more than I miss MJ, sorry.
  • ALIENated said on Jun 29, 2009....

    I just heard on the radio that he had very little hair, just peach fuzz, so I suppose he wore a wig. I think his hair caught on fire once when he was making a Pepsi commercial (serves him right for promoting Pepsi). He also had cuts on his back and injection marks all over his body. The price of fame and riches is paid once again. As some of you have said, I was already missing the young Michael Jackson. I could really care less about him the last twenty or so years. I do hate that he lived a life of almost certain misery even though he probably had every material thing he wanted. I also heard on the radio that the mother of his three (?) children now says that Michael is not their biological father. Remember the baby he held over the edge of the balcony. DNA will prove that accusation one way or the other.

  • Xelsorsior said on Jul 14, 2009....
    This short commentary is very well written and politely sympathetic while laying way for your own personal opinions which you have displayed in a very fashionable taste...Michael's family wouldn't be too upset over anything you wrote in here with the facts that the general public has had to work with...It is clear that you are a Michael J Jackson fan and that is what is most important for the world from the almost one billion fans of his and his family... And I as a fan within his his vast numbers am quite satisfied with this article of yours and I send your way a great cheer of appreciation for wirting your positive thoughts on Michael... And those that have nothing good to say about Michael are the ones that have no heart of compassion and are the ones that should fear what people really think about them... From one fan to another, thanks a lot for posting this...
  • javadewd said on Jul 14, 2009....
    Sheesh. Like the people who write here have to get your approval... I liked him before he got weird... Surely most did. Elvis just got fat, did drugs and made a mockery of himself. We were all sad to see him go, too, but it didn't change the fact that his light dimmed on the way out. All these "MJ fans" act like the dimming of his light never happened. Oh, well. Denial isn't just a river anymore.
  • ALIENated said on Jul 14, 2009....

    Yes, I am a fan of Van Gogh, too, but I have to admit that he was pretty weird. Michael Jackson was quite the entertainer and he obviously left his mark on this world. However, he was flawed in his personal life. Like all humans, he was a sinner. His sins were just is bit bigger than most of our sins and they are now being exposed for the world to see. Only he has to answer for those sins. All I have to do is listen to his music, some of which I like. The artist is only here for a while, but the art lives on if it is good enough, no matter what the artist did with his or her life. I do not think that anyone is trying to further punish Jackson, they are just upset with people like Al Sharpton and their attempts to raise Michael to sainthood. He was no saint. He was a sinner like the rest of us.

  • SeanRenaud said on Jul 14, 2009....

    You know ALIEN I'm confused.  I start off wanting to praise you for being really rational and cool here but seriously.  He was not a sinner like the rest of us.  Pedophiles (actual pedos, people who pray on children/prepubecents not people who don't ask a woman for a 3 forms of ID before bedding her) are a special kind of scum.

    It has no effect on the fact that he was a FANTASTIC muscial genuis and that I still listen to much of his music through the eighties and early nineties (despite popular belief he does have a few good songs after that, the Invincible Album is pretty good IMO, just over looked cus his star wasn't dim then, there was a fucking black hole)

    Still we're close enough to agreeing that I'm just gonan mostly rah rah you on!  Go ALIEN go!

  • ALIENated said on Jul 14, 2009....

    I simply pointed out that he was no saint (as Al Sharpton would have us believe). He was a sinner like the rest of us humans. I do think he did inappropriate things with young boys. There were just too many witnesses to believe otherwise. Do you honestly doubt that? I do appreciate his music (at least the songs with which I am familiar). I think we are saying the same thing -- I can enjoy his music in spite of the distaste I have for his personal life. And, of course, what I think of his personal life means nothing. At this point, what the law thinks of his personal life means nothing because he in no longer alive. He is accountable to a higher power now and that judgement will be absolutely fair.

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