China signed the law ten years ago if I'm not mistaken. It's their lack of child labor laws that let them skirt the issue. Again if Republicans would offer a true alternative they would rock the shit out of Dems on this issue.
Faith based science shoudl never be used for anything. This is slightly outside the realm of faith based but still I agree.
When all is said and done I got to give Obama credit ...
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You have to be kidding. Our trainee president demonstrates his lack of knowledge and experience more and more every day. It is getting interesting to watch just how long people point and say "look how well dressed he is", when, in fact, he is as naked as a jaybird.
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Oh, he has hit the ground running all right. And we are all going to pay for it for a long time. I like the phrase "if it is not broke, it does not need fixing". Our system is only broke because of Democrat tinkering in the past, all the way back to Carter and Clinton. Bush just happened to be president when the chickens came home to roost, as Borax's friend Reverend Wright would say. Democrats pretend that they are going to steal from the rich and give it to the poor (the people who keep voting them in). It sounds good in theory, but it never quite works as planned. That is why Republicans prefer that the government keep its distance from just about everything except maybe national defense and building bridges. I am just praying enough non-liberal Democrats (is there such a thing anymore) will see the light and help the minority stop some of this socialistic crapola. People need to forget their allegiance to the "first black president" and go back to thinking clearly and putting our country first, not Borax's legacy.
Interesting? Yes, it will be interesting all right ... if you call a holocaust interesting. By then we will be so weak, Korea will most likely kick our ass. Osama Bin Ladin (or whoever engineered the 9/11 attack) was a genius. This country has been steadily going down the tubes since that attack. It brought people like George Dubya Bush to action and caused Democrats to lose what little common sense they had left. It was a moment in time that sent both parties to their extreme corners, and helped usher in the likes of BHO and his dufus cohorts. Interesting? Yes, like the Titanic sinking was interesting, like Nazis were interesting.
Okay grow up and stop over reacing. Korea couldn't take us in a fight if we let the cast of Seasame Street run our military.
We will see. If you are as smart as I think you are, we should see you turning on Mr. Osamabama pretty soon. Along with just about everyone else. I hope black folk can see beyond their skin color and see what a mistake they have made.
You know I cannot argue with that. I am actually glad OhBummer was elected for his one term while Republicans get their shit together and find a real candidate. And they had best forget about Palin. Republicans simply put on a happy face about her to hopefully get McCain elected. Any monkey could have predicted that it would not work. This country is barely ready for a man of color to be president, do not even mention a woman being president or vice president. Even Democrats did not want a woman. However, be aware that I would have preferred Hillary over Borax because she is a Democrat, not a Socialist. Borax needs to lose in 2012 so the Democrats will get their shit together and pull back toward the center. All this extreme left and right wing crap is sending this country into shock (or the crapper).
We must be patient. No need to appoint a Republican candidate for 2012 now. We must retake the House in 2010. I am not sure there is much that can be done about the Senate (only Republican-held seats are up for grabs as I understand it). However, conservative Democrats can come to their senses and help stop the madness.
I am hoping by 2012 the Republicans can run a monkey and win. Maybe there will be enough duck activity by then for everyone to come to their senses (if he looks, walks, quacks like a duck ... or socialist).
Capitalism and Judeo/Christianity are what have made this country great and successful. All you have to do is look at socialistic, atheistic nations (or Islamic nations) to see the alternatives. The poor in this country are better off than the middle class in most nations.
There are no aetheist nations to compare them to. Yadda yadda the poor in this country. The poor in Socialist Europe are better than the middle class in most nation. Most nations don't actually have a middle class, they have HAVES and HAVE NOTS but that's no where near the point.
I don't debate that Capitalism made this country great. I can't think of ANY thing great in this country that is directly laid at Judeo/Christian beliefs though.
That is only because you are blinded to it. Someday your eyes may be opened to it. Of course, if you are looking to people like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for spiritual examples, I can see your problem.
You and your master know there is nothing I can say that you would not pervert and dispute. Besides, the Judeo/Christian influence is a general direction, not a single point. Compare our country to any of the Muslim-run countries. The differences should be obvious.
In short you have no point to make as per usual. Why not compare us to the Asian Cultures. I mean lets be perfectly honest here Muslim countries are mirror images of Christian countries when there aren't enough aethiests to keep the genie in the bottle.You can deny it all you want but look at history and look what starts happening whenever the Church has any real power. It's a religion thing.
The Founding Fathers wisely prevented that from happening here by not allowing the establishment of a single religion as official here.
As usual, when Christianity is mentioned, you think about a church, maybe the Catholics. I am talking about a way of life, a philosophy, not a church. Churches are run by men (and women) who are corrupted by power just like any other human. When I talk about Christianity as an influence, I am talking about a code of ethics, a personal way of dealing with everyday life, not which church someone attends. I would agree that some churches (denominations) are no better than Muslims or anyone else. Anything can be perverted, which is why I usually say true Christians, not Christians that pervert Christianity to suit their purposes. For example, I do not think any true Christian would approve of abortion, and especially not a last minute abortion, the way Borax does.
When I was a kid, most of the black people I saw were poor, stinky (from working hard and bad plumbing in their shack homes), and dumb (uneducated). Is that what most black people are like today? Are we now judging the present by the past? Things change. People get a better understanding of things. In days gone by, the Bible was written in Latin and the common man only knew what they heard at mass from the priest. Each person can now read the Bible and come to their own conclusions, which is the main reason we have so many denominations these days. Some "Christians" believe in handling snakes. I would not call them real Christians. They are majoring on a minor point in the Bible. And, like most non-Christians, you are expecting Christians to be perfect, but they are human beings. There has only been one perfect human being on this earth in the history of human beings.
I am not mocking anyone, but snake handlers do not share my beliefs. I put that in the same category as walking off a ten-story building and expecting God to cushion my contact with the sidewalk. God does not suspend the laws of physics on a regular basis (the movie Bruce Almighty shows what can happen if He did). Besides, you would say I was crazy if I did share their belief and you know it. (Remember what I said about twisting anthing I say.) Plus, I do not trust your ability to recognize fairy tales if you claim to be a Democrat.
You do share their beliefs though. You simply don't haif their faith. No where in the Bible does it say if thou shall step off a six story building I shall catch you. Or even something generic like if you do stupid things I got your back it does however mention at least twice that serpents handling should be safe for a true believer. The difference between you and them isn't that they don't share your beliefs. The thing is they believe and you're intelligent. You try to hide it because you've been raised in a society that believes that ignorance is purity. So you cling to it but you and the majority of people are far to inteligent to really believe.
Mark 16:17-18: "And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover"
Luke 10:19: "Behold, I give unto you the power to tread on serpents and scorpions, and over the power of the enemy: and nothing by any means shall hurt you"
Mark 16
14 Afterward he appeared unto the eleven ...
15 And he said unto them, (the disciples) ...
Jesus said this to the disciples. It was a prediction of the things that were going to happen to them (I think Paul was bitten by a snake but survived). Jesus was not directing Christians to run around doing stupid things, but if things happened to them, their faith would help them through it. Notice it says "they shall take up serpents", but it does not say what will happen to them. Treading on serpents is not the same as handling them. Plus, not all serpents are poisonous. The Pentecostals take the "shall speak with new tongues" statement pretty literally, too. If you have ever been to a full gospel or pentecostal church, you will hear people blithering nonsensically (speaking in tongues). I figure Jesus was telling his disciples that they would have to learn new languages in order to spread the gospel in the various countries they would go to.
This is all just my interpretation, but I figure God is not going to command us to do stupid things. However, if your faith is strong enough, try handling a few rattle snakes and see if God suspends the laws of nature and chemistry to save you.
I have faith that Jesus is the son of God. I put my faith in Him as a savior. That alone is all I have to believe to spend eternity in heaven with Him. At that time all these questions will be answered. I doubt that we will be able to see those who are in hell or know who is there, but I figure those in hell will be able to look on heaven ... to see what they are missing and to learn where their thinking was wrong.
Speaking in tongues is supposedly a sign (some think THE sign) of being filled with the Holy Spirit. I call all this stuff "majoring on the minors". I chalk it all off to things I really do not (and probably never will while on this earth) understand, and I do not need to. Being saved simply requires that you accept Jesus as your lord and savior. Whatever else you do is neither here nor there. Many people think you have to work your way to heaven, including most atheists. They think doing good deeds are what gets you into heaven. That is not what Jesus said. Jesus is the final sacrifice that covers all our sins ... period. You are saved FOR good works, not BY good works.
There is a joke about some guy going to heaven and walking down a long hall with Saint Peter. They pass by big rooms filled with people. "The Catholics are in there," says Saint Peter. They walk on. "The Baptists are in there. The Methodists are in there." The next door they pass is shut. "Who is in there?" the new guys asks. "Not so loud. That is the Church of Christ. They think they are the only ones here."
Also, the Old Testament documents the time of the Father. The New Testament documents the time of Jesus and then the time of the disciples who were filled with the Holy Spirit. During the time of the Father, they had The Law in the temple, then they actually had Jesus to tell them what the Father really wants us to do, and now we are the temple when we are filled with the Holy Spirit. There is even controversy over what that means -- to be filled with the Holy Spirit. People like Billy Graham think that you are automatically filled with the Holy Spirit when you accept Jesus. Others (mostly those people who believe in speaking in tongues) think those are two separate events, and that speaking in tongues is evidence of being filled with the Holy Spirit. That is one of those things I do not worry about.
While I think I'm right, That it's purpose is to bring people together. There are few things in the world that are as divisive as language. But to be able to speak and fluently at that any and every language or better yet to somehow be understandable by everybody hearing your voice would do wonders to bring people together.
But ultimately you're right that other than down time it's not worth debating as there is far to little in the Bible to go on for it.