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So, if you took the time to read any of my posts, most of which are brillantly crafted and written, lol, you will notice I take shots at the right, left and in between, i have said many times that there are wingnuts on both sides of the political spectrum. however what I fail to understand is the right's staunch defence of their "family values" platform, we have all seen the posts about clinton and how he couldn't keep it in his pants, and they were right to hammer him for it, however where are the same people who post after post claim the right is all for family values and use this soapbox to defend everything thier positions on gay rights, homosexulaity, adoption etc etc. yet these same people remain strangely quiet when one of there own, Sen. John Ensign pulls a clinton, when will they hold thier own to the same standard as they hold the left and where are all the outcry's and chest thumping they are famous for when someone on the left does the same thing. so do they actually have a "family value platform" or is it just another politcial talking point.....just asking
 
 
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  • ALIENated said on Jun 18, 2009....

    If this is about what I think it is about, I believe I heard the Senator on the radio confessing his sins to the press. Unlike Clinton, I think he was using verbs without qualifying them. However, would you judge a ship by the rats that sneak aboard? Just asking. Republicans really do not have to do or say anything. They know the biased media will rip any Republican or their daughters to shreds. Republicans have to make a stink when a Democrat screws up otherwise you would never hear about it. You are wandering into the same area of thought as judging Christianity by individual Christians. Oh, there is a bad Christian, there must be no God. Jesus was a fake, Yadda, yadda, yadda. Were you really asking this question seriously?

  • Cussane said on Jun 19, 2009....
    yes i was, i still have to hear one repubilcan say what he did was bad, not in line with our family value platform etc etc, my post was not about what the senator said, it was about applying the standard equally, if you want to slam clinton for infidelity then should you not hold your own to the same standard, btw, if you care to go back and read my original post and other posts as well you will see i have slammed both the left and the right, so your no one will ever hear about it idea is incorrect, at least in regard to this post. i have read yours alien and you espout family unit/values quite often and yet you did not in your response say anywhere that his conduct was not acceptable, so are you also guilty of what you are accusing the democrats of and remaining silent, just asking
     
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  • ALIENated said on Jun 21, 2009....

    Can we compromise. You tell me the Republicans that have spoken out in support of his behavior and I will tell you the ones that have spoken out and said his behavior was bad. I will start with the senator himself. I am pretty sure I heard him on the radio the other day apologizing for his mistakes. That is more than Clinton did until he was exposed for the pervert he is. Remember Clinton looking in the camera and pointing his finger at us dumb clods? "I did not have relations with that woman." Every good movement has a few bad members and I would assume every bad movement has a few good members. Even the great Martin Luther King had his dark side, which liberals tend to sweep under the carpet. And here is another for you. I do not approve of what the Senator did, but as liberals laughingly told us during the Clinton years "that is his business". However, I understand that people who live in glass houses should not throw rocks. I hope you will admit that, by and large, liberals give everyone many more reasons to throw rocks than do conservatives. The inhabitants of Hollywood are a constant reminder of that. With great power comes great responsibility, but often it results in great irresponsibility. I figure the Senator is just a weak man who made a mistake unlike Bill Clinton who abused his position to take advantage of women. To me that is a whole different mindset. One is human frailty and the other is letcherous predatorism.

  • Cussane said on Jun 21, 2009....
    Guess it is zero for both, the bigger issue was not the affair, which i will give him as a human fuck up, it was the pay increases to her, her husband and her son that started at the same time of the affair, that is an abuse of public funds and trust. as for clinton, yep he lied, he though we were all dumb idiots and should have got the boot for that, but the right seem to pound thier chests mainly on the family values platform more than the left and yet dont seem to police thier own, almost makes them democrats
     
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  • ALIENated said on Jun 21, 2009....

    I do not understand what you think people on the right can do other than comdemn people's actions. I will be honest. I do not know the whole story on the senator. I got the impression that he cheated on his wife, got caught, and is now claiming to have repented and says he and his wife are better than ever. We will see about that. I think the big difference is that that sort of thing (a single affair) happens all the time. That is a case of someone stumbling and then moving on. In Clinton's case, he was the president and had a history of womanizing. It is a case of a single incident versus a repeat offender. Anyway, I do not see why you think conservatives feel any different about the Senator than they do about Clinton or any other liberal. The Senator confessed and repented and plans to move on. Clinton was a lecherous slimeball that refused to admit his guilt and people did not want him in a position of power. Or at least that was my feeling about it. You seem to be saying something comparable to ... the Catholic Church should stop condemning anything that their members are guilty of. That really makes no sense. Certain actions are bad no matter who commits them. Conservatives (the right, as you call them) believe certain actions to be bad even if people who claim to be conservatives are guilty of those actions. Those people (who act badly) are obviously not conservatives. Why would I think any differently of them than I would of a liberal? However, we do tend to go a little easier on family just as liberals overlooked Clinton's escapades.

  • stopmediabias said on Jun 22, 2009....

    It doesn't matter what happens on the right and the left the left has a significant advantage with the corrupt media.  There is no getting past that.  It isn't the sins of individuals that define a party, its how that party handles them. 

    Ensign got caught in an affair and he resigned, end of story.  If this was a few months before an election this would be front page 24 hour coverage.

    Nobody gave a crap about Bill Clinton's BJ in the Oval Office.  What we gave a crap about was he wasn't honest and lied under oath.

    If our politics on right versus left was fair Barney Frank would have been tossed out on the street after having a gay love affair with an executive from Fannie Mae or even before that when his gay prostitute was doing tricks out of his apartment.

    Or William Jefferson's 90k found in his freezer. 

    Compare these to Elliot Spitzer who was practically crucified.  That didn't have anything to do with (sarcasm added) the fact Spitzer was in New York, the same New York as Mrs. Clinton, during an election year.

  • ALIENated said on Jun 22, 2009....

    Well said.

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