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con·fron·ta·tion

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: the act of confronting : the state of being confronted: as a: a face-to-face meeting b: the clashing of forces or ideas : conflict c: comparison <the flashbacks bring into meaningful confrontation present and past, near and far — R. J. Clements>

 

My husband didn’t feel well last night, nothing serious, just a stomach upset, but because he suffers from heart disease we can never be sure of the seriousness of “not feeling too good.”

So we took it easy, he watched tv and I watched him.  About 12:30 he was feeling fine but tired so we went to bed.  During the night we were awakened by a thumping sound.

It was 3am.  A car with those horrible sub-woofers, maybe?   No, it was coming from the wall behind our bed.

We share this wall with the townhouse next door where a 41 year old single guy moved in about 2 months ago.  He has a great sound system and listens to classic rock, our favorite music.  But he put his stereo against the wall behind my sofa and the wall vibrated and thumped when he turned the music on.

We saw him a couple of days later, introduced ourselves, made polite small talk, blah blah, and mentioned the music.  He was so upset, so apologetic…my goodness, you’d think we attacked him!  Anyhow, he moved the stereo across the room and that was the end of that.

So we assumed the thumping was coming from his house.  Did he move the stereo back against the connecting wall?  I doubt it; he doesn’t strike me as the vindictive sort.   

 

We were in a quandary this morning as to how to handle this because we didn’t want him to think we’re old farts who do nothing but complain when, in reality, we’re just old farts who need our sleep.

My husband saw him come out to start his car ( a very cool ’77 ‘Vette) and went outside to talk to him about the music.  Now, my husband is the least confrontational person alive, if you consider all confrontations to be anger induced exchanges, which they’re not but I’ll get to that.

The poor guy!  Husband said he reacted like a little kid caught with his hand in the cookie jar. “It wasn’t me!” he insisted, which is ridiculous because it had to be him.

Anyhow, it all ended well and I’m sure we won’t be hearing the thumping anymore.

 

My point is this: I didn’t think this was a confrontation, but my poor neighbor seems to think so and he is, apparently, afraid of confrontation. Why? 

If, in fact, the music came from an outside source, then he was right. So what was he afraid of?   If you hear that someone said something untrue about you, or wronged you in some way, why would you be afraid to question them about it?

What I mean is if you know you’re right 100%, what difference should it make to you what the other person thinks of you?

I worked with a butcher who complained bitterly and constantly that no one worked as hard as he did, that he had to do everything himself, you know the type…a real martyr. But he complained only when I was in the room.  One day I couldn’t listen to him anymore, I was sick of it.  When the 4 other guys walked into the meat room I asked Nate, the martyr, to shut the saw off.  “Now, Nate, tell the guys what you’ve been telling me everyday day for the last few weeks.”

“What?  You don’t know what you’re talking about! Shut up!”

“Nope. Tell Gene and Curt and Sean and Mike why you’re unhappy with their work and settle it right now because complaining to me isn’t gonna change anything at all.”

“She’s crazy! I tell everybody what I think of them! I don’t talk about anyone, I’ll tell you to your face!”

I won’t go into detail about what I told him (it involved his lack of private parts), but I never heard another word from Nate about our co-workers, and each of them thanked me for clearing the air.

 

That’s not confrontation, but Nate was afraid of it.  Why?  I wasn’t afraid of it because I was right, he was wrong.

 

Road rage is scary confrontation…even I’m afraid of that so I don’t get involved in it.  But gossip, bitching, back-stabbing, pettiness, whining, office politics…all that crap, that’s not confrontation, there’s nothing to be afraid of as long as you’re right.  If you don’t participate in it but still find yourself involved in it, say something. Ask questions. “Why would you say that about me, or him, or her, or them?  What do you think I did? Are you sure you have your facts straight, because I don’t think you do.”

 

It’s a good feeling to know you can stand up for yourself or someone else without fear.  Just be sure you’re right.

 

 





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  • Lucytorial said on May 16, 2009....
    Twirly ~ His bed wasn't on that wall was it? cause he could have been having sex! that would make me a little jumpy knowing my neighbours heard me having sex LOL
     
    I'm not confrontational at all, I just shrink! te he he
  • gingersoul said on May 16, 2009....
    Twilly......the guy wasn't afraid of confrontation....he was simply feeling like the cat caught with the mouse in his teeth....lol..

    He had a thunderous sex all night.....his bed was banging against your wall..
    Next morning, he felt a little embarassed about it ..its normal......
    LOL...poor fella....

    I bet he is going to do it again..
    You know......when sex is that shaking MUST have been really fun....
    Would you blame him?....lol...
  • cntlvmenuf said on May 16, 2009....
    Twyla: Am thinking he had a midnight guest also and that is why he felt embarrassed maybe? I work with one of those martyrs who is always complaining about being overworked and then turns around and says on the same breath that their job shouldn't be a full time position because they never have enuf to do. Talk about contradicting yourself!


  • queenparanoia said on May 16, 2009....
    maybe he was doing illegal??? lol...
  • woman said on May 16, 2009....

    Confrontation is difficult for many of us Twyla. I hate confrontation and I think it is for two reasons. #1. I never want to hurt anyone. #2. I have lived in a situation where confrontation (by myself) led to rage and verbal abuse. After living through that a couple dozen times, you decide burying your feelings is safer.

    I imagine that I have company.

    Now that said, When it is really important. Say, protecting my children, my students, my core beliefs, I can stand and confront with the strength of a lioness. I just pick my battles.

    Thank you for this post Twyla. I like this side of you too. (twin)

  • travelr712 said on May 16, 2009....
    i run into people all the time who think just asking a question is confronting them. but then, i've always been good at asking questions people don't want to answer.
  • fragglesrock said on May 16, 2009....

    i run and hide from a confrontation (turn into a doormat)....i wish i could speak up a little more like you do/have, i need to work on that.  (ps...hope your neighbor keeps the midnight 'parties' to a dull roar from now on)

  • Twylarants said on May 16, 2009....
    Aha, Woman, but you get what I'm saying.  It isn't confrontation if you are right.  When both parties are right, it's more of a debate.  When one party is right,  that party is standing up for him or her self.  The person in the wrong is being confrontational, and if they aren't afraid to confront you, why would you be afraid?
    When I confronted Nate I didn't do it in anger, I'd never lose my temper over something as silly as that.  He was angry and nervous because he was wrong. And Hubby didn't approach our neighbor in anger at all...it wasn't that important, it was just a request to keep the music lower, so why was the neighbor afraid?
    Maybe when people say they don't like confrontation they're using the wrong word for what they actually mean...that's all I'm saying.
  • woman said on May 16, 2009....

    Sweetie. I'm not questioning your post. It was all good and proper. I am simply telling you that I have some difficulty confronting people. Whether I am right or not. (of course I believe I am right!! lol) And those are the reasons it is difficult, but not impossible, for me.

    I love your strength. You're fearless. RRRRRRRRRR

  • Twylarants said on May 16, 2009....
    Trav ~ well, if someone asks me a question about something that really isn't any of their business, I consider that being confrontational. It has happened to me and I can't disguise my surprise at being questioned.  My stock answer is "Excuse me, but why would you ask me that?"  I'm not being confrontational at all but I'm certainly not afraid of hurting their feelings.  Why would their feelings be hurt?  Because I was smart enough to recognize an inappropriate attempt to pry into something I consider none of their business?  They better get over it, then.

    Frags~ I don't believe you can't do it, I think you just haven't been faced with such a situation.  For some reason a certain type of person thinks nice people are weak people.  We nice people have a duty to set them straight.  You can do it, Frags! It gets easier after the first time...lol.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 16, 2009....
    I'm not afraid of confrontation, but "in my old age" I've gone from confronting right off the bat to confronting only when it will bring about a positive result.
  • Twylarants said on May 16, 2009....
    Woman ~ of course you're right...aren't we always?
  • Twylarants said on May 16, 2009....
    Uni~ exactly!  That's what I was getting at. Confrontation isn't confrontation if you're right, so there isn't any reason to fear it.
  • gingersoul said on May 16, 2009....
    Twilly.....well.....i have a temper...i get hot and bothered pretty quick.....it must be my Italian blood...:-p

    So if i have to initiate a confrontation i always try to not react immediately.....i try to cool down and wait ...then i try to think the best tactic to approach the offender, choosing the best way for me...

    I want to reach my goal in the best possible way.
    In a conversation-debate i tend to think quickly and talk fast so sometime the other person can have the feeling i am a tad aggressive...
    Plus, i know that i can use my words in a hurtful way, if pushed ...

    I got definitely better growing up....i am still trying to improve
  • woman said on May 16, 2009....

    Got you, but I am thinking of entirely different situations. For example:neighbors with barking dogs, coworkers that have been unkind, family that is not helping out when it is truly needed. Then I would be concerned about hurting feelings. (I'm just a whimp about this!) Then there is the fear. A husband that has really been inconsiderate, or whatever. I have learned that the rebutal will be much more hurtful than the original issue. Shuts down all types of communication.

    I'm better at all of this than I was when younger, but I do admire your strength to confront without fear. I would like to be more that way.

  • Twylarants said on May 16, 2009....
    Gingerini ~ people do tend to think you're aggressive in those situations, don't they?  But I can't understand it.  If I'm confronting a rude person, how does that make me rude?  If I'm just offering a different opinion I'm not being pushy, it's just my opinion...it doesn't mean I'm trying to change yours.
    I had a strange exchange with one of the bartenders and a manager one night at work.  Six people were waiting for the last departing flight and two of them sat at one of the bar tables.  The 3 of us were sitting at a cafe table.  The manager was annoyed at the people sitting at the table because they weren't drinking.  I said "Why?  There's no one else in the whole gate.  They're not doing any harm and we don't have to wait on them."
    He got mad at me and said, "Well, you're stupid, then."
    What the hell?  Why did he become confrontational?  That was merely my opinion, nothing more.  I asked him why he would call me stupid for having another opinion, and the bartender became nervous and left the cafe.  The manager apologized and said he thought I was going to argue with him.
    When I asked her later why she left she said, "Because confrontation makes me nervous."
  • Hegemone said on May 16, 2009....
    Well it is a good point, you don't have anything to worry about if you're in the right.  Also, if you're 100% in the right you don't feel a need to explain or back peddle, so it makes you look more confident if somebody comes to you with something, thus bringing about a proper solution.  I find that the people who aren't right and who were in the wrong have an issue with their story, and they're much more passionate about it, and a whole lot less willing to hear the other side because they either have to prove it wrong, or just don't want to hear it at all.  Very good points you've made here, and I'm glad that your situation with the loud thumping will be taken care of.  That'd drive me nuts if I couldn't get to sleep for that!
  • woman said on May 16, 2009....

    Twyla. Of course we are always right. Lordy, what else is our age good for???

    At least gravity hasn't effected THAT!!

  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 17, 2009....
    "Well, you're stupid, then."

    Just brilliant.  Hope he didn't have to go all the way to college to learn that.  Coulda learnt it at the sandlot.  :)

    Ah...  Good times... 
  • scipio said on May 17, 2009....
    Even if you are in the right these days to confront anybody is also risky. What with so much of violence, dishonesty  and pent up anger - who knows what the reaction will be ?  What with so many bullets and lawsuits flying around  -  depending on the situation - it is better to be safe than sorry.
     
    -
  • Twylarants said on May 17, 2009....
    Scipio~ absolutely!  That's why I never get involved in anything that's none of my business.  Confronting someone I know over something rather minor is one thing, arguing with a stranger is quite another.  I prefer making people laugh than making them want to shoot me!

    Grape ~ The manager and I are good friends, but for some reason this matter of people sitting in the empty bar really pissed him off.  That retort kind of shocked me but I kept talking.  He talks to everyone that way but that was the only time he'd tried it on me.  It didn't work...lol.

    Heggie ~ Yes, that's what I'm talking about.  When people say they're afraid of confrontation I think they're using the wrong word to describe the situation.  I certainly don't want anyone walking up to me and screaming in my face but that's an argument, not a confrontation.  Approaching someone about a misunderstanding to straighten it out or to apologize should be easy, as long as you're right.

    Womanella ~ That's right! Hell, we didn't live this long by being wrong, did we?
  • woman said on May 17, 2009....
    No mam. We did not! Cheers!
  • speaking_up said on May 17, 2009....
    Twyla, "It’s a good feeling to know you can stand up for yourself or someone else without fear.  Just be sure you’re right."
     
    Some people in soul cast cannot stand any confrontation, and thus block all disagreeing viewpoints. 
     
    Bear with me, my point is about fear of confrontation...
     
    I am so glad to find this popular post today, and the fact that is on confrontation is all the better.  I've been trying to find a way to bring it to as many soulcast people's attention.
     
    Our politics tag use to be shown as one of the popular 'tags'.  However, I noticed the tag politics is now gone from the first page.
     
    Why?
     
    I don't know, but I do know that Alienation has blocked everyone who disagrees with his thoughts on america, bush, torture, war and crime, etc.  If you go in now and read his posts, all of his followers are on his side!!!  It's actually funny to read...
     
    He is eliminating all people who have different views than himself!
     
    He has a serious fear of confrontation, I suspect.
     
    Is it a coincidence that the tag of politics is gone, at the same time he blocked anyone who disagrees with him?
     
    Sorry to interfere in here like I did...but I am kinda pissed today about that tag being slowly wiped out...
     
    I'm new so rarely end up on a first page of anything, so excuse me for using your post on confrontation to make a point about politics!
  • Twylarants said on May 17, 2009....
    Speaking ~ That's ok, Sweetie, I hijack others' posts all the time...don't worry about it.
    Alien has very strong political viewpoints, that's true, and I don't know why he blocks people but I think he eventually unblocks them.
    I have my own strong opinions so I'd rather not get involved in political arguments because no one can change my mind and I wouldn't try to change anyone else's mind.  A political debate is interesting to me but even politicians become confrontational after a short while.  I don't like arguing unless I'm sure I'll win...lol!

    Don't worry about the first page...you'll be there before you know it.
  • speaking_up said on May 17, 2009....
    twyla ((((hugs!)))) - and great topic btw!
  • ALIENated said on May 19, 2009....
    
    He has a serious fear of confrontation, I suspect.
    
    I do not have a fear of anything except maybe people who say stupid stuff or
    call me a bigoted fool because I have an opinion that does not agree with 
    their opinion. I block people because I do not want their stupid statements
    on my posts. Most liberals degenerate into name calling, and that is when they
    get blocked. I have not blocked many people who disagree with me (bloc, kelly,
    SeanRenaud). Secretlife and Lucitorial do not agree with me on many things.
    But none of them stoop to name calling, etc. Blocking is equivalent to walking 
    away from someone that is spouting a bunch of crap you do not want to even
    hear because it is so stupid. It is really no big deal.
      
    I am not sure about the politics tag. I put it on just about every post I do.
    
    Most men do not like confrontation because many have had their block knocked
    off when they were growing up. Women think they are brave because men 
    usually refrain from slugging them if they do not like what they are hearing. So
    they have never had to stop a bloody nose or get their eyebrow or lip sewn up.
    Take a few punches and then tell me how confrontational you are. If your
    neighbor was an ape and slugged your husband, he would probably think twice
    before confronting someone else. I usually just call the cops and let them
    sort it out. Even that can get ugly. I had some temporary neighbors at one
    time who lived across the street. They had two older sons maybe in their
    late teens or early 20s. Their neighbors behind them called the cops on them
    and were harrassed by the two boys until they finally left the neighborhood. 
    The sons even had the parents beaten down, which I witnessed several times. 
    I wanted to go over with my baseball bat because it irked me so, but I could 
    not decide if the boys needed beating or the wimpy dad. Anyway, the point is,
    you never know what you are getting into so it is probably best to just not get
    into it to start with.
    
    
  • Twylarants said on May 19, 2009....
    Good morning Alien!  Yeah, I agree that discretion is the better part of valor...I don't want someone swinging at me...I paid way too much for these dentures.  You gotta know how to pick your battles and read your opponent.  This particular guy is very nice, so we thought it best to bring up the loud music with him before it got to the point where we were pissed off, you know?
    My husband has this great way of dealing with this kind of thing, he's very diplomatic.  Me, I'm just a big mouth so I defer to him.  But he'll step back if he sees I have a legitimate reason to go off on somebody, which rarely happens though, because most stuff either cracks me up or rolls off my back.
    Name calling turns a debate into a confrontation and simply demeans the name caller, imo.
    Hey, I was called a nasty name here by someone when I was asked to defend a poster attacked by this person but the name didn't bother me so much...the implication that I collect Social Security checks pissed me off because I am NOT that old...yet.
  • speaking_up said on May 19, 2009....
    ummmm, can you show me where I called you a nasty name, Alien?  I believe I try to be as respectful as possible...although we are polar opposites in our beliefs and values.
     
    You blocked me because you fear the confrontation of having your personal views challenged.  Your posts are now all filled up with one side.  Way to learn and grow, grasshopper.
  • ALIENated said on May 19, 2009....
    
    I do not allow the slamming of Christianity on my posts either. I usually
    block the person and then delete those comments. Why would I want
    that on my posts? Liken it to, if you came to my home, went in the 
    bathroom, and crapped in the floor. You are partially right (that is the 
    room in which you crap), but, at the same time, you are totally wrong,
    and out you would go. If you want to preach about pagan religions, you
    do not get to do it on my posts and I will ignore your comments about 
    it elsewhere. Hopefully you heard about the recent decree by some
    Islamic leader in Egypt (I think) that all pigs must be killed because 
    pigs are the decendents of Jews that Mohammad turned into pigs.
    As I said, pagan religion that has little to do with reality. Why would I
    ever want to listen to two syllables about how Christianity is just like
    Islam? Nothing could be farther from the truth. Our country is based on
    freedom of religion, but it is also a republic, a representative form of
    government. Islam is not only a religion, it is a political system. People
    like me will stop it here while people like you will let it engulf us so you
    can feel politically correct. If anyone has some things to learn, that 
    would be you ... grasshopper.
    
    
  • alabamagirl said on May 19, 2009....
    I'm embarrassed to say that I run from confrontation.  I don't want to confront others in fear of hurting their feelings or making them feel ....less, regardless of whether I'm right or wrong. 

    I don't like being confronted with something that could be conflicting or debatable.  Just like woman stated, I've been in situations where it leads to rage and verbal abuse.

    It's interesting to read how others view confrontation, though.  Not really so bad, more like someone expressing their opinion or difference of opinion.  I enjoyed reading this.
  • travelr712 said on May 19, 2009....
    People like me will stop it here while people like you will let it engulf us so you
    can feel politically correct. If anyone has some things to learn, that
    would be you ... grasshopper.

     
    i find that to be a very derogatory and condescending statement by someone to make themselves feel superior. but that's just me.
  • speaking_up said on May 19, 2009....
    @Alien...*sigh* who is talking about pagan religions?  I don't believe I have ever brought the term up.  My relationship with Christ and God are my business, I don't believe you can read my thoughts, can you?
     
    The only time I said Christianity (THE RELIGION, NOT THE FAITH) is like the Islamac religion, was because both believe they have the one God that favors only the people that follow that RELIGION.
     
    It's the truth!?!  Isn't it?  Tell me I'm wrong and I'll go away.
     
    @Alabama...in forums like this, it is a good opportunity to write, and read to learn about other viewpoints...and most importantly (for me) to learn how to express myself so that I don't alienate others the way I have tended to do in my history.  If you have avoided confrontation, then SPEAKING UP might be a start, and this is a pretty safe place to do so.  However, if you run into people like Alien, who tends to alienate a lot of people, keep moving on - unless it is people just like him you want to learn to deal with.  After a while though, as I am finding, you will become bored with trying to 'work it out' at all.  Also, there are some abusive people in here who have nothing better to do than to purge their rage onto people they perceive as weak.  Them, I would just avoid and stick to the people who help you in whatever journey that brought you here.  I've already met several great people whom are the real deal.  Nice to meet you.
     
    @trav...it's been this way all along, I don't quite know why I even bother inflicting myself with him.  *smiles*
     
     
     
  • Twylarants said on May 19, 2009....
    Alabamagirl ~ Love your description "...as bizarre as myself"
    Oh yeah, you came to the right place...lol


  • Twylarants said on May 19, 2009....
    Speaking ~ Just saw on Pusscat's post that you'll be absent for a while.  Good luck, and see you when you get back.
    ~Twyla 
  • speaking_up said on May 19, 2009....
    Hey twyla...thanks!  I'll be around til sunday...
  • javadewd said on May 20, 2009....
    Maybe your neighbor was choking the chicken and did a grand crescendo at the end... Now he's busted for spanking the monkey... Congratulations! You've been indirectly assaulted by his enormous schlong!! He was just trying to spread the joy!
  • Twylarants said on May 20, 2009....
    J'Dewd ~ I can't thank you enough for that mental image.
    Oy.   I gotta go wash my eyes.
  • Twylarants said on May 21, 2009....
    Now I'm getting pissed off.  The music's been on since 3:30 this morning, I've gotten maybe 2, 3 hours sleep, but the guy hasn't been home all night.
    Either he has it set somehow to turn on at a certain time or he was right and it's not coming from his place.
    I'm waiting to see his car pull up but I hope I've calmed down before I see him.
  • ALIENated said on May 21, 2009....
    
    I had that problem once. The guy next door (in our first apartment house) worked
    at night. His teen daughter stayed at home and had a little party one night. I
    was in a rock band so I had a fairly large amplifier. I rolled it over to the common
    wall, routed the radio into it, and turned it up. It shook the walls for a few 
    minutes and then I turned it off. We had no problems after that.
    
    
  • Twylarants said on May 21, 2009....
    You think I should push my tv over to the wall and blast Fox News?  Hmmm, I wonder if he's a liberal.  Oh God, that would be so funny...maybe I'll wait til Glen Beck comes on.

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