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Lately there have been a rash of blogs about how people behave towards each other.  Some is accused of something, another feels attacked, and someone thinks it's all a game.  Maybe they're right, maybe they have some responsibility in what happened to them.  That's not for me to say.
 
What I have observed is that along with the freedom to express yourself anonymously, come the responsibility to weigh your words carefully.  Yes, you can and may say ANYTHING you want here without too much if any backlash in RL.  That's what this forum was designed to provide. 
 
What some people fail to realize is that when you do take advantage of that freedom to spew thoughts and words out there, someone else is also equally as free to interpret them and respond to them with equal abandon.  Quite frankly I find it repugnant to see this happen, it's ugly and I've been guilty on occaision of both sides of the equation.
 
Maybe such freedom isn't really free.  Maybe these hurt feelings and miscommunications are the price of saying whatever is on your mind.  Maybe if you really have to say these things without weighing the impact that they have on others you must pay the price of being confronted or spoken to with no regard to your own feelings.
 
Some of you might find this hard to believe, but I really do weigh my words, both in my blogs and in my comments.  I take a minute to consider how they are received by others.  Sometimes I misjudge that response, and sometimes I react too quickly to hurtful words, but I do at least make the attempt to temper my words.  To make sure my motive for sharing them is not to stir up negative reactions but to possibly benefit those who read them.
 
To paraphrase a quote that I can't seem to find to share with you, "may my words be tender, for I may have to eat them later".
 
I'd like to suggest that we take an extra minute moving forward to consider how our words will affect the person(s) reading them.  Is this person ready to hear this?  Can they appreciate what I'm trying to share?  Is this offensive to them?  What is my motivation in saying this?  It's not about having the right to say them, but about how they may be received.  Perhaps restraint and reserve would be better tools than insistance and rights.
 
To those I have offended with my words, please accept my apology.


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  • gingersoul said on May 12, 2009....
    U-nee-k.......what you talk about is old fashioned common sense.
    And since its not often used in real life, i expect lack of common sense online as well.
    Actually, online even more due to the anonymity of the media.

    Overall, i think that people acts OL as they act in RL. 

    But if you are a jerk in RL your magnificent ugliness will shine even brighter online.
    Because words DO mean something. And when written, they stay.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 12, 2009....
    ginger - your comment "But if you are a jer in RL your magnificent guliness will shine even brighter online." speaks great truth.  No pretty or handsome face to distract from the bitter or offensive words.
  • beyondtheveil said on May 12, 2009....
    I do think about my words, much more on comments than posts. I've always very much liked the word reasonable. Moderation is a good one too.

    My rant posts don't apply, but they aren't about people on here anyway.
  • superbozo said on May 12, 2009....

     I have been tempted at times to go after some here. I realise though that there are some that get enjoyment from watching someone lose it. When I first got here I commented on a few political blogs. What a waste of time that was lol. Offering a differing veiw point just leads to responces that well made me laugh in their stupity and their nastiness.

    There is a cyber hero mentality which I think is the same as a road rage mentality. They feel safe in their car and feel free to rant and rave at someone for no real reason. I've seen normally calm people turn into snarling monsters behind the wheel. I think the same happens online. Some who would not say boo to a goose suddenly find they can say all manner of things with out the threat of that someone punching them for their stupidity or their nastyness. There are some that just like to stir shit. I can see it as soon as I read it now and just laugh and move on. Some allow those types to get to them and the arguement goes back and forth. If someone has a veiw point that means I wouldn't like them in real life than I give them no time here. I am as unlikely to change their point of veiw as they are mine, so whats the point in bothering.

  • uniquely-ironic said on May 12, 2009....

    BTV - I see the moderation and reason you use when commenting and always appreciate it.

    super - I think you're right about the cyber hero syndrom.  I'm sure it's true to some degree with everyone, but some people get a really bad case of it.

  • Hegemone said on May 12, 2009....
    Uni, I think you're on to something here for sure.  We should all take a page from this book, myself included.  I try to think about what I'm saying first and more often than not I just try not to get into confrontation at all.  I'll be one to admit there have been times that I miscalculated the reactions my words would get.  I have this problem here as well as in RL, I understand what I'm saying it and how I mean it ... but I can't properly portray it to the person I'm trying to get it out to.  The statement shouldn't just be 'Think before you speak', it should be 'Think before, after and during speaking.'
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 12, 2009....
    Hege - isn't it irritating when you know that your sentiment is worthy of hearing, but for the life of you it keeps getting garbled in communicating it?
  • Hegemone said on May 12, 2009....
    Yes it is, because generally I have the best of intentions, I don't talk to hear myself speak, or type to see myself write, so it gets pretty frustrating ... and then when I try to nip that in the bud and say my original thought, and then in parenthesis explain what I mean ... it just makes me feel redundant, but at the same time I thought it needed to be said.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 12, 2009....
    Hege - somehow there comes a point where you're better off just letting it go.  I often start a thought, get tripped up in the middle and then end up deleting the tangle of words I managed to get out.
  • Hegemone said on May 12, 2009....
    Oh yeah, I could probably fill a few 55 gallon drums with tiny little 12 point font words I've deleted forever into wherever the deleted letters go, lmao.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 12, 2009....
    Hege - nice imagery!
  • travelr712 said on May 12, 2009....
    i also think carefully about what i write, and unless i'm writing a poem or drunk blogging, i craft what i am going to say in my posts several hours before i sit down and write them. i know you do the same uni, as does hege and several others here. that's why i value your opinions.
     
    i understand that the pen is mightier than the sword. without the pen, the sword is rarely lifted. i try to always consider how my words will affect the people i write them to or about, and rarely do so without considered intention. like hege said, some missunderstand those intentions, and some do not. people, including myself, will generally read and hear what they want to read and hear.
     
    but sometimes, someone will come along, this person or that, and say something that no one wants to hear. and then people start talking about the things they wanted to ignore. words are written, words are spoken, we all take pause, take stock, and then move on, knowing a little more about ourselves and each other than we did before.
     
    i absolutely love to see that happen :-)
     
    great post uni
  • wolfafterurazz said on May 12, 2009....
    I have not been here that long But I have been in other forums and I have found that people in cyber chat are searching for something. Everyone is different, maybe some are missing something. I have also seen that what others say can really hurt people even if you don't know them. FUK can't we all just get along....joking that was a Rodney King joke. Please be mindful of others feelings...If I offend someone I usually say sorry and back off, I'm a big jokster and people often take me wrong. To say I'm sorry is so eash......................WOLF.....with age comes wisdom
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 12, 2009....

    trav - and then there are those who take no heed to how their words will be received, or understand how it will be read and take some perverse pleasure in provoking a reaction.

    wolf - yes, generally speaking, we're all here for some reason.  The problem with joking online is that it's hard to see the gleam in your eye, thus leading to hurt feelings. right?

  • travelr712 said on May 12, 2009....
    yes uni, there are those. but they're not always who you might think, or how they may appear to be.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 12, 2009....
    trav - they're exactly who I think and how they appear is not as deceiving as they think it is.
  • queenparanoia said on May 12, 2009....

    words can really hurt if not use wisely...

    i hope all this just end... why cant we all blog in harmony???

  • ipmat said on May 13, 2009....
    agree with your thoughts but when you blog so publicly you are bound to get some that you may disagree .as long its not personal it should be fine
  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 13, 2009....
    The gravity of words is something that I learned not to abuse a little while back.  It came to me at the cost of what could have been a wonderful friendship.  It crosses my mind often. 

    The thing is, on a site like this, we have nothing but our words to be judged by. 

    I've been guilty of using them rather freely in the past. 

    I've been glib, flippant, smug, obsequious and occasionally bilious.  (Nobody's perfect, you know...)

    I'm trying my best not to use words irresponsibly anymore. 

    But it's hard... 

    My foot is so tasty...  :D
  • Voltaire said on May 13, 2009....
    Often I don't bother, I am here to read and share what ever comes to mind.
    Roughly translated there is a German proverb (or quote?) that says:
    "When two fight the third is delighted"


  • crybabylu said on May 13, 2009....
    good post, It'll make me think more before I write.  thanks.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    queenie - IDK but I suspect that harmony is not a natural state for humans.
     
    ipmat - yes, it's bound to happen, and that's okay as long as differences can be communicated with respect
     
    Grape - LOL yes, shoe leather is among my usual diet as well ;)  When we do have nothing more than words to be judged by it's even more difficult to know if we are using the right words.
     
    Voltaire - [shudders] the saying is true for the mentality of the Germans as well.  Having grown up in an extended German family I often witnessed the spectical of Aunts and Uncles locked in what we thought was "bitter combat" over something as stupid as how to make jello.  I take no delight in seeing people fight.
     
    CBL - we should all take an extra few seconds, but I'm glad you liked it.
  • MsStar39 said on May 13, 2009....
    Uni beautiful post and so true, I am always surprised when I write a post and you are getting such nice comments and then you come across one that is just plain mean and you know it was meant to be insulting, I don't take the bait because I consider the source as just another idiot trying to start something.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    MsStar - I agree, I just don't get why people can be so arbitrarily nasty with no apparent cause other than just because they can be.
  • U.I. said on May 13, 2009....
    Attack therapy?
  • travelr712 said on May 13, 2009....
    i see it as the same motivation that they create bogus alt names based on other's screen names uni, it gives them some perverse sense of pleasure to fuck with people they don't know or care about.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    U.I. - (not an alt BTW) to what end is this therapy employed?
     
    trav - not the type of person I choose to align myself with.
  • travelr712 said on May 13, 2009....
    me either uni, me either.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    trav - good.
  • Voltaire said on May 13, 2009....
    U-I,
    I happen to know that, to. Being partly German myself.
    However most in my family don't bother any more to fight over "small" things.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    Voltaire - I once witnessed my Aunt and Uncle squabbling over how high to hang the water hose hook.  They moved it (seperately) about 4 times over the course of 1/2 day and argued until it was dinner time.  Thank God food ran interference or they'd have kept at it until bedtime.
  • CreativeWoman said on May 13, 2009....
    Words can sting and cut deeply when they are used as weapons.  I've been on the receiving end a few times in my life. I never intentionally use them that way either here or in my real world.

    CW
  • U.I. said on May 13, 2009....
    words don't mean nothin at all..NOTHIN!
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    CW - Which is one of the things I find very appealing about you!  I see the consideration you put into your words and appreciate it.
     
    U.I. - more wars have started over words than actions, so words do apparently mean something at least to some people.
  • travelr712 said on May 13, 2009....
    kinda funny if you think about it uni, if words meant nothing, then why did u.i. use words?
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    trav - because U.I. is a shit disturber
  • Voltaire said on May 13, 2009....
    U-I,
    Yes, not only the meaning can affect us, but also the tone and the way it is said.
    Even facial expressions do affect us, if we are aware of it or not.

    There's often more to it then we admit, or care to tell.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    Voltaire - I'm a big fan of body language and not being able to see the faces and body positions of the people I "talk" to here online is a stumbling block for me.
  • Lucytorial said on May 13, 2009....
    Uni ~ Well, I've seen the posts of recent and decided it was not worth my while commenting, mainly because I don't really care for such conversations.
     
    Intently I try to weigh my words, even when I'm joking, especially when I do not know what is true what is not.
     
    Its cyber, the real fact is that although we all may be living human beings behind these screens, there are many dramas being played out, real or not I don't go into posts laying down a perspective harsh or not unless I am passionate about it.
     
    As for the narcassism some show here, well like Ginger said its not what you say exactly, its the way in which you present it that tells people about who you are.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    Lu - I have always appreciated that you are not one to jump into a fray.  It leaves me some company to discuss the ruckus with from the sidelines when I choose not to engage. :)
  • Lucytorial said on May 13, 2009....
    To true, of late I've felt that its been highly immature and don't want anything to do with it.  Thats just me, I'm not confrontational, I dispise it.  Even more so on this level of communication.  Its the internet, what might seem real to some is not for others, no one can ever judge that correctly because we aren't all sitting here together.
     
    So whats the score anyway? LOL
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    Lu - I forgot to keep track of the score.  I think I lost.  Oh well!
  • auroralost said on May 13, 2009....
    Uni-Very well written and I agree with you that we need to think of how our words will effect others before we put them out there.   I really enjoy reading your posts because they are well thought out and well written.   I have used harsh words here in my time but it is usually toward the people in my life who are not posters here. It is my way of saying what I could never say out loud.  I have been a little harsh to one person here but believe that I quickly corrected the situation. 
     
    I think all opinions and thoughts here should be allowed to reign free.  That being said...... being malicious to another person here just for the sake of it, is wrong.  At least that is my opinion.  
     
     
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 13, 2009....
    aurora - being deliberately malicious isn't really an expression of thought or an opinion IMHO, so therefore it's exempt as free speech. 
  • bluegum said on May 13, 2009....
    seeing as you and lucy didn't invite me along to the holiday bash and you flew over the top of my place with nary a wave coming and going i think i 'll have a'' hissy fit and some shit on the liver''.lol putting on my best monster face,poking tongue ,well i feel better now got that of my chest .blue xo.
  • Lucytorial said on May 14, 2009....
    Blue.... you've been off radar... holy crap are we in trouble. LOL
     
    Now settle petal.
  • bluegum said on May 14, 2009....
    nah youse not in trub trub just needed to throw some shit in the fan lol ,i just been running here there everyware like a blue arsed fly solving nothing ,i'v since settled and comin good again and uni post was just the tonic .blue
  • wolfafterurazz said on May 18, 2009....
    YES! words can only try as they might to send out the feelings we truly intend.
  • uniquely-ironic said on May 18, 2009....
    blue - I didn't even know you were there!  If I had I'd have sent word for you to join us.  Sure could have used a level head to keep us out of trouble ;)
     
    wolf - agreed, which is why being very careful with them is neccesary.
     
    Lu - run and hide, I'll distract blue!

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