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I made this calligraphic seal so everyone can greet you in Mandarin.
Shēng rì kuài lè, Jiāng líng hún!
It means "Happy birthday, Gingersoul."


calligraphic seal


Should I tell everyone?
Or should I keep it to myself?
Should I shout it out for the world to hear?
Or should I softly whisper in your ear?
Will this bring joy to someone’s heart?
Or will it give somebody pain and hurt?

Should I give it up and cease the thought?
Or should I seize the chance that long I’d sought?
Should I do it now when the day is young?
Or is there a better time and a brighter moon?
Must it be done in a gradual way?
Or must it be released right now, today?
Must I weigh too what others want?
Or decide on my own, must I but can’t?

To think or not. To say or not. To act or not.
To do it now, tomorrow, nevermore.
Does anyone hear my thoughts, and whatever for?

If you were in my place, will you seek some other ways?
If you were here with me today, what would be the words you’d say?
If you could tell me what to do, I need for you to tell me how.
In plain word sign, neither poem, nor prayer, nor vow.
If you follow what I’m trying to say, please say it now.



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  • the_infernal_optimist said on May 05, 2009....
    Hmm...do it now, says the curious one.

    ~Infernal
  • moonriver said on May 05, 2009....
    hi curious one.
    ok, score is 1-0 for doing it now vs procrastinating.
    but what if i do it tomorrow?
    would that make a difference?

  • the_infernal_optimist said on May 05, 2009....
    Yes, it would, for all moments, all days have their own unique coloring...the question is, is it a difference you would embrace or regret?

    ~Infernal
  • phoeby said on May 05, 2009....
    wow, what an exciting place to be in, moonman?! i'm rather hopeless at making decisions for myself let alone someone else. but i'd follow your heart not your head perhaps. and feel the right time or moment...


  • fragglesrock said on May 05, 2009....

    i will do you a favor and consult my magic eight ball maybe?

  • Lucytorial said on May 05, 2009....
    stay or go its no affect on me but what is it you really want to do/see/feel/touch/hear/sense etc (I'm sure you get the picture)????
  • jul said on May 05, 2009....
    I'm all for you shutting up, but uhh, what do I know, I'm just All Knowing.
  • CreativeWoman said on May 05, 2009....
    Do it now
    So we can go "wow"

    I sense it's a big deal
    That you will soon reveal

    I have formulated a guess
    But I'll keep it close to my chest

    CW
  • phoeby said on May 05, 2009....
    jul? sweetheart? why not go back to the kindergarten for sad and wounded toddlers you so obviously came from?... 




  • Lucytorial said on May 05, 2009....
    Phoebes.... LOL (you made my day girl)
  • moonriver said on May 05, 2009....
    i'm on a short break from work.
    got odds and ends of hours to peek at the comments.
    i can't reply to all in one fell swoop.
    i guess "one by one, easy does it" is my motto at the moment.

    hi again infernal.
    you're right about each day having a different hue.
    my gut feel is that today and tomorrow won't make a big difference.
    but alas, my gut feel has been known to deceive me... :-)
    so the score remains: 1-0 in favor of doing it now.

    hi phoeby.
    "follow my heart, and not my head..."
    you are guessing it has something to do with the heart.
    you might be wrong, or you might be right.
    it's not easy to separate head and heart though.
    and what if this mysterious something is actually about my pets?
    that's connected with the heart too, like you and hugo.
    ok, the score is 1 for heart, 0 for head... :-)

  • phoeby said on May 05, 2009....
    hi moonman, well i guess i meant that whatever it is, you can use your gut or heart or intuition to guide you.. if that works for you. but then you said to infernal that your gut lets you down so.... i dunno. -shrugs- 

    but whatever happens, do tell us what goes on, ya-hear?!
  • Lucytorial said on May 05, 2009....
    I'm going head..... heads up!
  • phoeby said on May 05, 2009....
    lucy! hehe
  • moonriver said on May 05, 2009....
    hi fraggles.
    you have a magic 8-ball?
    oh pls pls pls! do me a big favor, ask it quick, and tell me what it says!
    it's like i'm on the edge of this cliff.
    should i stay or should i leap?
    will i fly or fall off so deep?
    score's not changed.

    hi lucy.
    it's basically a yes-or-no, an on-or-off decision, no in-betweens.
    and yeah, it's something that has to do with all that you mentioned:
    doing, seeing, feeling, touching, hearing, sensing,
    plus all the etcetera.
    but you should at least hazard a guess! grrrr...


  • Lucytorial said on May 05, 2009....

    why would I do that and spoil your fun??? good lord I'm not that mean.

    I'd say from my extensive experience making a decision, any decision is a good thing.  :-D now if I crack my whip will you get your ass moving, make your decision then tell us all how it turned out? (I know you won't anyway) silly monkey.

  • moonriver said on May 05, 2009....
    hi cw.
    you know i love it when you talk shop, and in verse at that... ;-)
    i think you guessed right, but then again, you can really never tell.
    you vote for doing it now, huh?
    that makes the score 2-0 vs procrastination.

    hi jul.
    keeping mum... that's a valid option too, you know.
    so the score's 1 for shutting up, 0 for shouting out loud.
    you can still change your vote anytime, oh all-knowing one... ;-)


  • fragglesrock said on May 05, 2009....
    i hurried and asked my magic 8 ball....this is what it said...."why are you shaking me woman? can't you see i'm asleep?" i'll try again tomorrow. 
  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on May 05, 2009....

    Carpe diem quam minimum credula postero

    ;)

    <3

    ate papel 
    ~ , one who is striving to leave the club of procrastinators
  • moonriver said on May 05, 2009....
    hi ate papel.
    wow, what a literary genius that horace dude was.
    did he perhaps imagine that 2,000 years later, his words would still echo among us?
    i note your vote. 3-0 for doing it now, vs procrastination.
    that's ok, you can always have dual membership in the club of procrastinators and the club of carpe-diemists... :-)

    hi again fraggs.
    are you sure that's a magic 8 ball, and not some other kinds of balls you were skaking? lol
    ok, tomorrow then.
    oh, that makes 3-1... :-)

    lucy, if only because my poor ass is always in awe of your cracking whip, okay, lady, consider it done.
    by 12 noon GMT (that's london time for you) i'll make a decision and announce it here.

    phoeby, i do give a lot of weight to my heart, gut, intuition, etc. and this has served me well in the past.
    but you know, attachments and habits and fears often die hard.
    like i told lucy, 12 noon GMT... :-)

  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on May 06, 2009....

    [sets her alarm because she has become a forgetful momma]


  • moonriver said on May 06, 2009....
    ate papel, can i indulge in a bit of procrastination myself, and reset it to 3 pm GMT? i figure that jiggy will want the computer tonight... last-minute preps for his own path-breaking, 10-day trip :-)

  • phoeby said on May 06, 2009....
    give us a hint!
  • moonriver said on May 06, 2009....
    phoeby, here's a hint:
    it's something that many people take for granted, no big deal,
    while others await its arrival and outcome with utmost anticipation.
    hugo has experienced it at least once, i'm sure.
    i myself didn't put a lot of thought into such decisions in the past.
    these things come and go, like clouds.
    but this is an exception... :-)

  • phoeby said on May 06, 2009....
    ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh my god! you're getting spaid!!!!!!!

    really? omg omg omg

    ouch. that might hurt though??
  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on May 06, 2009....

    [resets her alarm, and blows kisses to moonbeam for being an awesome father :)]

    *muaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah*

    whispers:

    I will do some pesky household chores now, and come back here to see your update as my reward of the day ;)



  • diabolicdame said on May 06, 2009....
    Hey.. first off there is no brighter moon! lol..
     
    Ok.. I'll tell you a saying we have here.. a hindi saying.. it says 'Kaal kare so aaj kar, aaj kare so ab. Kal hi pralah aayegi, phir karega kab?'
     
    It means; if you wanna do it tomorrow, do it today... If you you wanna do it today, do it now.. tomorrow might be the end of the world, when would you do it then?
     
    So Dia-saraswati says, do it now!
     
    :-P
  • secretlife said on May 06, 2009....
    dia:  i loved that!
     
    moon:  i have a famous quote to share with you except i don't know who said it.  anyway....deep words here:
     
    “procrastination is like masturbation. at first it feels good, but in the end you’re only screwing yourself. ” 
     
    tell tell!!!
  • Me-Myself&I said on May 06, 2009....

    Howdy Moonriver. *smile* huh.... whatever you decide will be alright because you have good common sense. but the old saying is.... if you think too long you will go wrong! ;~)

    have a great day my dear friend! take care ~see ya

  • anonymous said on May 06, 2009....
    Lol SL.. I love your quote too!!  :-D
  • diabolicdame said on May 06, 2009....
    Oh that anonymous one was me! I dunno how it went as anonymous.. strange!!
  • beyondtheveil said on May 06, 2009....
    moon-  Deep down, you know. Deep down you long, or you wouldn't have asked.

    Deep down, I think you should, or you might miss the mark,

    and if I'm wrong, my home is yours, for setting it right,


  • moonriver said on May 06, 2009....
    hah! i finally got jiggy to finish his cakewalk project, so i could use the comp.

    phoeby -- LOL! no no no, i'l die first before i get spayed.
    ate papel -- muaahh back to you. yup, this proud father has just been listening to a 4-song medley of the phantom of the opera...

    hi goddess saraswati.
    i like this hindi saying, even if i'm sure i'll have a hard time pronouncing all the words that don't start with K. lol
    your vote is noted, my friend:
    4-1 in favor of doing it now, since tomorrow the world as we know it might end... :-)

    hi secret.
    i also like your saying, hindi or not, haha.
    since i know quite a few bloggers here who are certified procrastinators, now i know what they do during cold lonely nights.
    they are busy procrastinating! LOL
    your vote is noted, my friend:
    5-1 in favor of doing it now, instead of indulging in some self-quickie. lol

    hi memy.
    if i think too long, i might not always go wrong...
    but i'm sure to get a humongous headache. lol
    your vote is noted too, my friend:
    6-1 in favor of doing it now, to avoid a humongous headache tomorrow.

  • moonriver said on May 06, 2009....
    hi beyond.
    well, my friend, with your comment, i've just made my decision final.
    we'll see whether i did wrong, or i did right.
    but thanks for offering your home.
    i'll take you up on that one of these days.
    final vote is 7-1.

    so here it is, my dear friends and readers...

  • moonriver said on May 06, 2009....
    Happy birthday, Gingersoul!
    生日快乐姜灵魂 (Shēng rì kuài lè, Jiāng líng hún!)

    --from Moonriver
    月亮河 (Yuè liang hé)

  • CreativeWoman said on May 06, 2009....
    Happy Birthday, Ginger!

    (How cleaver of you, moon.)

    CW
  • the_infernal_optimist said on May 06, 2009....
    Cute, moon. :-D

    Happy birthday, ginger! :)

    ~Infernal
  • secretlife said on May 06, 2009....
    moon how sweet you are!!!
  • beyondtheveil said on May 06, 2009....
    Hahahaha - what a guy, and 'what a girl'...

    ....soulgirl...got a message for you elsewhere.
  • travelr712 said on May 06, 2009....
    happy birthday ginger. sorry i'm not awake enough to write you a poem, and moonman did a fine job anyway.
  • MissMimi said on May 06, 2009....
    Buon compleanno, gingerbella.  {{{hugs}}}
  • PAPERBACKWRITER said on May 06, 2009....


    Buon compleanno, bellissima!

    Much love, always!

    <3 Jo

    p.s.

    your beautiful image is etched in my mind, your beautiful soul in my heart . . . I thank the power of the universe that brought you in this lifetime :) . . . your friendship means so much to me <3


    Moonbeam ~ you shine! *muaaaaaaaaaah*



  • MsStar39 said on May 06, 2009....
    Happy Birthday Ginger.
  • mixednuts said on May 06, 2009....
    HAPPY BOITHDAY  G.S.!!! (New York syle)
  • silverwhisper said on May 06, 2009....
    happy b-day, GS!

    ed
  • diabolicdame said on May 06, 2009....
    Happy birthday gingersoul.. again..  :-)
  • Lucytorial said on May 06, 2009....
    very well done moon.... Happy birthday Ginger.
  • RollingC said on May 06, 2009....
    To Ginger...
    ♫  Happy Birthday to you ♫
    ♫  Happy Birthday to you ♫
    ♫  Happy Birthday dear Ginger ♫
    ♫  Happy Birthday to you ♫
    ♫ And many moooore..... ♫

    Nice post Moon...I like the caligraphy

    Rc
  • wombat said on May 06, 2009....

    Glad I popped in to say Happy Birthday, Gingersoul!  Hope it is/was a wonderful one for you!

    (and neat-o post, poem and "birthday card," moonriver)

  • mobil said on May 06, 2009....
    Happy Birthday Gingerbread...........
  • sweetsoul said on May 06, 2009....
    Hope this year brings you your heart's desire, Gingersoul. Happy birthday woman.
  • gingersoul said on May 06, 2009....

    Thank you all, one by one.
                             Group hug!!!....:-D
  • gingersoul said on May 06, 2009....

    And to you, Moon......ah....from where do i start with you?

    I know how much you love the Corrs and this particular song of the Beatles......so i went all over YT to find it...and finally...i got it...
    I hope i am giving you back some of the huge smiles you put on my face today with your post.

    The Chinese calligraphy is just beautiful....i remember another calligraphy ...more than two years ago..

    This is what a real connection is made of: time passing by.... making the bonds only stronger.

    You are the Master of All the Stinkers, anyway...lol....
    Yesterday I was reading your post and i couldn't figure out where you would end up....after all, being unpredictable is only one of your many  qualities, my dearest Moon.

    Thank you so much {hugs}. 
  • phoeby said on May 06, 2009....
    oh my god, is that all?!!

    *scratches head* i thought it was some huge life changing event for you, moonman!! i think i'll pretend you're getting spaid....

    but happy birthday Gingersoul !!!! x
  • sehnen said on May 07, 2009....

    remember later, that loving a job more than a person might not be the right course. remember that living in truth rather than lies might be the better way. think about the soul versus the ego, and how the demands of one are very often at variance with the demands of the other. remember how much pain can be dealt by doing nothing, or by playing on the wrong side. doing nothing can be as vicious as action. think about love that might have died because of inaction, because of ego, because of lies, because of being on the wrong side.

  • moonriver said on May 08, 2009....
    hi again, everyone.
    maybe it's time to ask ginger whether she got her b-day wishes...
    aside from her confirmed addiction to hugs, of course...:-)

    hi ginger.
    i'm glad you found this year's calligraphy beautiful.
    but psst. here's a confession i need to tell you.
    just between the two of us, you hear?
    i cross-checked the meaning of the calligraphy with experts on ancient carapace markings...
    and it appears there's been a terrible mistake.
    there are calligraphic equivalent of typo errors, if you will.
    the message doesn't simply mean "happy birthday gingersoul."
    the elements mean something else.

    ok let me try to clarify the true meanings of each of the nine elements again, row by row from left to right:

    calligraphic seal

    * top row, 1st (from left) is an unidentified female alien stranded in texas, fighting a snake that's about to bite her.
    * top row, 2nd, is the apt complex where she lives, that also houses, unknown to everyone, a hidden snake den. (see the baby snakes slithering on the ground floor?)
    * top row, 3rd, is a cobra that mimics a duck, a cute-looking but treacherous duck.

    * middle row, 1st, is a trident spear for fighting snakes. a gift from kruuyai. (notice her unmistakable crooked trademark.)
    * middle row, 2nd, is an interplanetary spacecraft that can be a sanctuary in case of snake attack.
    * middle row, 3rd, is a magic wine glass that can trap snakes. notice that there's one already inside, trying to escape.

    * bottom row, 1st, is a actually a map of europe. how so? why is it there? don't ask me. lol
    * bottom row, 2nd, is an asian warrior ready to do battle with snakes. don't mind the 3rd appendage. it's not venomous.
    * bottom row, 3rd, is a snake hiding among the cactus plants. there's a dog barking at the snake.

    so you see, my friend, there seems to be an entire cryptic message embedded into that happy birthday calligraphy. i'll have to research further.

    oh, and thanks about the YT clip.
    my favorite irish group singing my favorite beatle song.
    with andrea corr's quaint accent. rrowwwrrr... lol
    who could ask for more? :-)

  • moonriver said on May 08, 2009....
    no, that's not all, phoeby.
    that was just for starters. there's more to come.
    hope the next ones won't be as painful as getting spayed...
    because i still totally reject the very idea in my mind. lol

    hi sehnen.
    i'll remember well the words you said, about living in truth,
    and the dangers of doing nothing.
    thanks for dropping by.

  • gingersoul said on May 08, 2009....

    Moon......oh my......there is more in that callygraphy? I am holding my breath for the anticipation....;-p

    When will you reveal me the other sacred hidden messages?

    I am such a curious monkey...you know that...that's why you always tease me in this way.....grrrrrrr..

    And yes...now that i look better...i see the snake, the dog, the duck, the lady and the cactus..

    And i perfectly recognize the spaceship, the warrior, the map and the glass of wine....;-p

    I knew i would have earned lots of kudos with that Corr video..i looked and looked all over for it.....happy you liked my thank-you for this post...

     

  • moonriver said on May 09, 2009....
    good morning, ginger.
    are you still holding your breath? lol

    i was talking to another ancient bone-and-carapace calligraphy expert.
    he told me bottom row, 1st, isn't very clear whether it represents a map of europe...
    or a teenage girl very concerned about hairstyles and boyfriends.
    he promised to help me do further research.
    in any case, all sacred hidden msgs will reveal themselves in time.

    i really appreciate the effort you took in looking for the corrs video.
    i'll make sure to reply in kind... :-)

  • lioneljay said on May 10, 2009....
    Happy belated birthday, GS. It's a treat to know you. :rose:
  • moonriver said on May 10, 2009....
    i'm sure everyone else will turn this birthday greeting into an excuse to...
    WELCOME YOU BACK, LJ!
    Please drop by more frequently. Please...?

  • gingersoul said on May 10, 2009....
    LJ.......oh, you are here!!....:-D

    I am more than flattered and honored that it took my b-day for you to peek in.....;-p

    Thank you for the rose.....you know that it's always been a treat being listed as your friend as well.

    Hope life has been very good to you.  {{hugs}}
     
     
  • kruuyai said on May 11, 2009....
    Happy belated BD, ginger.  That trident should come in handy for bringing you knowdedge and transformation in the form of snakes.  May it be a truly transformative year for you!
  • moonriver said on May 11, 2009....
    hi kruu.
    it's nice of you to drop by and greet a friend.
    yes, the trident has that nice magical touch.
    your own b-day isn't so far away, is it?

  • gingersoul said on May 11, 2009....
    Kruu-Kruu....oh, girl......thank you very much ..{{hugs}}.

    I really appreciate that you came in for delivering me your wishes.
    I truly hope this year will bring me less restlessness and will give me directions for growing a better myself .....even though, you know me...i don't like snakes....lol....

    Anytime i see anything about Turkey i think of you and wonder what you might be doing.....stay well, my friend.
     
  • kruuyai said on May 11, 2009....
    moon: Close.. it's in November.... but don't remind me.  It's a milestone this year.  One I'd rather not acknowledge. lol

    ginger:  That's funny.  Officially, I "live" here (in Turkey), but so far this year, I've spent 7 weeks in Turkey and 12 weeks outside... mostly in Italy at Damanhur.  But I visited another amazing community (Tamera in Portugal) on this last trip, and I'm planning four more visits there before the end of this year.  So, I wonder if I'll ever get to know Turkey as well as I'd like to.  But, I'm having fun, and that's what it's all about, isn't it?  Hope you're having fun, too... and take it easy on the snakes.  ;-)
  • gingersoul said on May 11, 2009....
    Kru-Kru.....milestones are for being reached and put in some file.....the big 50, right?...who cares? they are only stupid numbers.....lol...

    Now, what were you doing in Tamera, woman?
    I can't  google you in one part of the world without you slipping away in another one.....grrrr...
    Guess you know Portugal is one of my dream place, right?

    I am sure you had a great experience in that community.
    And i am happy you are having fun.
     
    Don't worry about me..i always take it easy when some snake is around..{hug}

  • moonriver said on May 12, 2009....
    hi kruu.
    i'll take note of the date anyway,
    and think of something nice to send your way.
    i hope calligraphy is still ok?

  • kruuyai said on May 12, 2009....
    ginger:  Right you are... I was letting the numbers game get to me big time about a year ago... I blame it on Prague..lol.  I didn't know that Portugal was one of your dream places.  Have you been there yet?  It's lovely.   Let's see.. in Tamera (are you already familiar with them?) I was taking their Horse Course... self awareness through developing a peaceful relationship with a horse... learning to ride without a saddle or a bit... blindfolded, no less!  For my trips back, I'm projecting a Spiritual Course, possibly a Vision Quest, an Eros Course, and a Work Camp at the Bodega where the Love School is run.  Sound intriguing?  Incidentally... or should I say co-incidentally, I blogged about Tamera once before in a post called "Living With Rats and Snakes." 

    moon:  Calligraphy is cool.  Can you do any language other than Chinese?
  • moonriver said on May 12, 2009....
    kruu, yes i can do one other language in its ancient script.
    but i can't post it here.
    it must be manually done on rice paper, then sent by postal mail.

  • gingersoul said on May 12, 2009....

    Kru-Kru......oh, please...sign me in with the Eros Course.....lol

    Well....ok, even the Spiritual Course...just to counterbalance....*wink*

    The coincidence doesn't surprise me, my friend. I am big fan of them....

    Send me some pics or video, like the last one in Italy, would you?

    And i will send you something too for the big 50....lol..

     

     

  • kruuyai said on May 14, 2009....
    moon: Deal

    ginger: Lucky you!  You've been spared the need to counterbalance... the Spiritual Course has been cancelled, because the teacher was invited to speak at a conference.  lol.  I don't think I can top that video from Italy, but I am waiting for a CD in the mail from the Horse Course teacher with the 100 best photos from the class (they did all the photographing so we wouldn't have to worry about it).  So, whenever that arrives, I'll send you one or two.  I can't wait to see them myself. 
  • gingersoul said on May 14, 2009....

    Kru-Kru......yeaeeeh......thank you...can't wait to see them...:-D

    So...the Spiritual is cancelled ...BUT...the Eros one is still on..

    So...lucky you....lol....

    You do know you have to tell me all about it, right?.....{hugs}

     

  • kruuyai said on May 14, 2009....
    I reserve the right to censor the juicy parts.  ;-)
  • gingersoul said on May 14, 2009....
    HEY!!!!!!!!.....grrrrrr
  • moonriver said on May 14, 2009....
    kruu: deal. details later... :-)

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