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What angers us in another person
is more often than not an unhealed aspect of ourselves.
If we had already resolved that particular issue,
we would not be irritated by its reflection back to us.

~ Simon Peter Fuller

Hmmm...true or false?



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  • starchini said on Apr 23, 2009....

    If the anger is a general quality, then maybe...

    But if is a specific action we feel the anger about, then no not at all...

    I say false...im not easily angered at all, and when I am, its usually because the person is being extremely unreasonable, or stupid/annoying...lol- and im none of those things : P 

  • phoeby said on Apr 23, 2009....
    yes it's true. it's usually but not always transference. we transfer our old memories, notions, expectations, hurts from the past onto whatever we see around us now. Unless we are aware of our own thoughts/feelings/stuff in each moment which is what consciousness and the raising of consciousness is all about

    xox
  • starchini said on Apr 23, 2009....

    Im conscious...I dont get it...I dont think I transfer my memories, notions, expectations, hurts onto others...unless i mean to do it purposely. 

    PHOEBY!!!  Your confusing me! 

  • travelr712 said on Apr 23, 2009....
    i'd say it's true in general, although sometimes it may not be something that we did, it may be something that someone who hurt us in a past relationship did.
  • phoeby said on Apr 23, 2009....
    yes traveler true. the only thing is, the experience stays with us in thought form or memory. we identify with it and it becomes us, we put words around it, judge it, blame them etc etc... all this goes on even in our cells at the deepest level sometimes.

    To be conscious i mean,um more than simply breathing, although that's it too. what i meant was conscious of ourselves as the thinking. conscious of that thought, that feeling, that reaction. underneathe that is ??.... i was alluding to witnessing our thoughts, experiences which can cause a space between what is happening 'out there' and the reaction we have. this space is so many things but nothing also and is healing and neutral and peace and love and truth actually.... truth.

    im only starting on this journey back to self..... so am a newbie who stuffs up all the time! 
  • gingersoul said on Apr 23, 2009....
    Our body thinks with every single cell of its entity...as well as our brain feels as our heart, and our heart remembers like our brain..
    All is connected......all is one...and we are one with the universe that surrounds us...The bombing is constant...endless...and we have a infinitesimal awareness of this...this is the sad thing.....

    So being the one unity we are what we see in others is felt to a very deep level to us ONLY when is not resolved by us as a digested notion......it lingers there, we can say....but....it shows in our looks, our suppressed words, our silence though..

    Oh, the terrible silence of an angry soul.....

    Generally speaking, we are teached to believe that we can "control" our anger...what make us react in a angry way toward other behavior is just the fact that we didn't learn to deal with our unconsious anger ...otherwise..that same action would be read differently by our entity..
    The fact that anger managements classes are always so full is a sympthom of how few intelligence we use in our relationships..even when we think we are so over them and so mature and responsabile about it.

    So, yes, Fuller is right.
  • MsStar39 said on Apr 23, 2009....
    I think it's true because it's like bringing back a bad memory that I don't want to be reminded of.
  • silver_phoenix said on Apr 24, 2009....
    It's true. WE are just not conscious of it. 
  • ALIENated said on Apr 24, 2009....
    
    Probably true and false, sometimes and sometimes not. However, liberals love
    that arguement. If you hate so and so you must be a so and so. Just not
    true. 
    
    
  • queenparanoia said on Apr 24, 2009....

    it may be true. or false. depends on the stuation...

  • Hegemone said on Apr 24, 2009....
    Oh, I could agree with that.  Perhaps things others do that offend us or anger us are reflections of the way we once were, or the way we're worried about becoming.  So instead of voicing our fears, we lash out at that person.  Makes perfect sense.
  • starchini said on Apr 24, 2009....
    If we arnt conscious of it, how would we know if it was true or not?
  • fragglesrock said on Apr 24, 2009....
    i think it's pretty true!
  • cntlvmenuf said on Apr 24, 2009....
    The anger is what lets us know it is true...because it is an internalized feeling...and a defense mechanism. Every time we are angry is because we feel our equilibrium is being threatened....so there's something about that person that you connect with that in turn triggers the anger. Thats why its essential to step back when angry and analyze the situation. The brutal truth might surprise you.


  • the_infernal_optimist said on Apr 24, 2009....
    Generally true, I think.

    ~Infernal
  • alabamagirl said on Apr 24, 2009....
    I think sometimes that may be the case, but I tend to agree with Star.  I will sometimes feel angry toward another because the person is being unreasonable, stupid/annoying, acting out in a manner that is uncalled for.  I am also angry when people blame everything wrong in their lives on something or someone else.  I have a family member like this.  It drives me mad.  I've done everything in my power to help this person, yet they do not help themselves.  My grandmother used to say, "You can't help someone who doesn't help themselves."  So true.
  • JusticeForAll said on Apr 24, 2009....
    What angers me most about people usually ends up being qualities that I dislike about myself.
  • crybabylu said on Apr 24, 2009....
    True.
  • wombat said on Apr 24, 2009....

    I think it's true when coupled with low self-esteem ingrained in those who grew up troubled. It bounces back as anger, and depression is anger turned inward. When you don't have these kinds of issues to deal with, (are there any truly stable, mature people out there--I've heard the rumor) you are probably able to deal with others on a more logical basis.  Or at least...that's the goal we are supposed to be aiming for.

    (Interesting concept that I should blame myself when hubby pushes my buttons....he'd like that one!)

  • PieterOpie said on Apr 25, 2009....
    No.  Not true.  It's impossible in my case for obvious reasons.   How can you be angry at someone like me.  I'm adorable.   Is that a sin?  Is it?  Hmmmm???   Of course not.    Toodles.... 
  • silver_phoenix said on Apr 25, 2009....
    There are people, like psychologists, that study the workings of the human mind. And a French philosopher named Bergson wrote about it in Creative Evolution (1907). Just talked about this stuff in one of my classes.
  • starchini said on Apr 27, 2009....

    Im fully ready to admit that a few comments flew right over my head.  Im not ignoring them, I just dont know how to respond...intelligiently...

    I tend to agree more so with Alabama Girl, Peter Opie, and completly disagree with justice for all...

    I think in general human being are angered by that which we do not understand...

    Thinking of my most recent angry moment with Phil...his hoarding.  Im very simple and a necessities type of person, i like things to be uncluttered and of use.  I do not understand the mentality of cluttering a home full of stuff you might someday need...Phil is that way.  I get angry at him for collecting roomfulls of things hes acquired over his lifetime of stuff that he hasnt used in years and years, it was all given to him free, things he just "picked up" from people who were throwing it out.  He holds onto with a death grip bc "he may someday need it"...I truly do not understand this, to me, if its been unused in over a year, you wont need it, and ten years down the line if you do need it, odds are you can borrow it from someone else if its something that is used so infrequently.....

    This disagreement makes me angry bc i do not understand his logic...

    That is what makes me think this quote is mostly bogus...

    On the other hand, im a very stubborn person and so is he.  I think there are many layers to any surface arguement.  While the skin of the arguement may be about something two people dont see eye to eye on or dont understand, the true nuts and seeds is that both people have a quality that keeps them from reaching an agreement, the same quality...

    Stubborness....

    So im torn and dont think i will fully grasp this until someone explains it to me in lamen terms...

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