• beyondtheveil said on Apr 09, 2009....

  voltaire- To me, along with being informed, good investigative reporting is the most important part of news. I'm sure a lot of news is collected and investigation is being done, but getting it on the news is a big problem. We have crap for news today. Most of it is opinion and entertainment. 

• Voltaire said on Apr 10, 2009....

  Beyond,
  I can only agree.
  

• ALIENated said on Apr 10, 2009....

  
  As I have said before, liberals claim big business is a bad thing, but guess
  who runs the big news outlets (ABC, CBC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, etc.) ... big
  corporations. And they were all pushing OhBummer and his Democrat
  cronies. So yes, the media is not doing what it was intended to do anymore.
  Even quasi-news guys like Rush have their own agenda. Rush was not that
  big of an asset to the Republican (conservative) party. He has more to
  gain (radio ratings) if a Democrat becomes president. His name is in just
  about every political article or news piece now. That would not have been
  the case if McCain had won. It is all bogus and we cannot believe anything
  we see or hear anymore. I rarely ever watch or listen to any "real" news
  anymore. How can I believe those who so readily lie to get what they want?
  
  

• beyondtheveil said on Apr 10, 2009....

  alien- And the conservatives are in bed smooching on global media mogul Rupert Murdock. I don't know if liberals own those you named, but it would be a good balance.
  
  As far as big business is concerned, the corporate world is the lap of Satan and virtually every politician sits there from time to time. Liberals (meaning the people) do come down on corporations as do conservatives (meaning the people) I know for what they do to 'the people' and especially third world nations. Third world nations have no enemy like corporations.
  
  Some effort of control, little as it is unfortunately, must be exerted over those sociopathic pricks  so they won't totally take over everything. I give it twenty to forty years and they will have anyway.
  

• javadewd said on Apr 10, 2009....

  I love the fact that print is dead, actually. I'm not thrilled about all this blogging stuff, though. I hate blogs. They're more opinion than fact. They're more feeling and feel-good than functional. They're definitely more entertainment than actual "news."
  
  Don't get me wrong, I love the electronic, semi-anonymous, semi-social interaction and convenience, but news it is not...
  

• Voltaire said on Apr 10, 2009....

  Java,
  I think it's sad that print is dead.
  Blogs is a completely different ball game compared to the news.
  If you hate blogs why read them?
  Yes of course they are more based on feeling and opinion, however the point is if the way you argue is good enough it might just be news.
  Things can be twisted and tilted in a lot of ways.
  
  Regards,
  Voltaire
  

• javadewd said on Apr 10, 2009....

  Volt -- I read them, but I don't read them for news. Your point is well taken, but I hardly call blogging news... Especially from 'sources' like YouTube, ThinkProgressive or even moveon.org ... 

• beyondtheveil said on Apr 10, 2009....

  voltaire- Some of my friends consider the net their prime reading (not news) source. They regularly read things like Common Dreams for instance. My daughter reads LA Times on the net, though that is different. Right wingers hate the Times but they do have some terrific articles out of the political setting.

• javadewd said on Apr 10, 2009....

  I read the funnies, too, but I hardly call that news, either...

• Voltaire said on Apr 11, 2009....

  Beyond,
  I see. In my country most news papers are rather flat on the political way of it.
  
  Java,
  Mmm, news well hardly.
  

• stopmediabias said on Apr 13, 2009....

  I think the print media is either dead or become so corrupt it's almost laughable.  I think FOX news is the only ray of hope.  Out of the majority of news casts that either slant to far left or the left FOX hits the middle and to the right.  Plus they have Bill Oreilly who just pisses everyone off. 

  beyond-Have you ever read 1984?  If you haven't, holy moly get to it man.  You have this Orwellian feel when you start going on about big evil corporations. 

• javadewd said on Apr 13, 2009....

  I quit watching TV more than a decade ago. I listen to conservative talk radio, but I have only a few favorites. We have no Rush. I don't like Hannity (he's such a blow-hard) or Laura Ingram (she's too much of a whiner), O'reilly was always too soft on the far-lefters, but I like Glenn Beck and there are a few local folks who are just nuts and I love listening to them.

• Voltaire said on Apr 14, 2009....

  SMB,
  Yes it is dead.
  However where I live they aren't all corrupt rather they have opted to become gossip spreading newspapers/magazines.
  
  Java,
  I to don't watch TV so often any more, mostly if there is a good movie I want to see.
  

• beyondtheveil said on Apr 14, 2009....

  SMB- I first read 1984 in junior high school. Saw the movie too. Need I say more?  

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