• SeanRenaud said on Sep 01, 2006....

  What other effects of overeating? Don't get me wrong I'm much more of the attitude that we need to truly spend some time as a culture condemning obesity in the same way we condemn bad breath, or being unclean. It is something that you can help, and that as a child it is your parents job to fix early on. You are a friend have an OBLIGATION to help your friends when you see them getting overweight, otherwise you can't claim to care about them not with the information we have today.
  
  With that said if they found a vaccine that solves the problem with little or no side effects then I'm all for it, particularly for those who need it. We have used technology to solve every problem we could from eliminating certain diseases, to producing more food on less land, to bringing water to deserts to surviving horrific wounds. If we can cure one more thing that will make us live longer, happier more productive lives there is no good reason why we shouldn't.
  

• tisha said on Sep 02, 2006....

  If we all become gluttons and say well "no worries" the vaccine will take care of it and we don't take responsibility for our actions where does that leave us?
  

• SeanRenaud said on Sep 02, 2006....

  The same place that farming did as far as us not hunting, medicine did for us living in close quarters, cars did as far as us being to physically weak to to travel long distances.
  
  If technology can make something a non-problem with little or no drawback why not? I'm not saying that this is the perfect solution, I'm all about education, exercise and good diet. I stand by my opinion that if we knew how to solve obesity via vaccine that I would support it being made available.
  

• tisha said on Sep 02, 2006....

  Yes we are weak and we are giving into our weaknesses. Sad. Couldn't we exhibit our strengths more often?
  

• SeanRenaud said on Sep 02, 2006....

  We do. We exhibit our intelligence. We are living longer and happier. We are accomplishing things that we thought were impossible. We are eliminating old problems. That is why I support the vaccine. Hell I might even take it even though I'm not overweight. I would rather know that I can go to work with no fear of getting fat and handle my career, than have to work out to avoid an early death.
  
  My reasons for working out are a combination of being in good health, and attractive. If I can accomplish that with a simple shot in the arm, once again with little or no side effects then so be it. I'd probably still work out cus it makes me feel good but it would be nice not to have to.
  

• defector said on Sep 05, 2006....

  sad to say for most obese people, they have given up hope on work out one they hit certain size/weight. zero motivation. so what you have to do to push people on is to bring down their weight, put in a bit of confidence with the new weight and pray that they will work to maintain the new weight.
  
  what these people need is to know how to self motivate and know goal setting. if you realise most obese people have unrealistiv weight loss goals. you ask someone who is 200pound what is the targeted weight they wanted to hit in say 2 months they would have said 120 pounds. the problem is the 80 pound differences is too big a difference to create a mental impact for him to realise that its possible.
  
  I would suggest the weight loss plan shouldn't be about start and end weight loss differences. it should be about periodical weight lost differences. i.e. to say 4 pounds loss every one - two week. its so much easier on the spirit when you start with losing 4 pounds instead of thinking about losing 80pounds. 20 - 40 weeks later you will still hit 80pounds lost. if you keep up with the 4 pound loss per week or bi weekly.
  
  :) my two sense worth.
  

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