• anonymous said on Apr 03, 2009....

  your "rant" is the sorta shite i hate get your fackts right

• seer said on Apr 04, 2009....

  Fackts?

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 05, 2009....

  You've expressed it really well, Seer. The darker side of capitalism, which is clearly greed. And there's also this complacence as soon as things improve again for a while, or we "eat well for a while" as you've phrased it. It's like the majority of people voting, and many of the politicians themselves, have such a short attention span that we can't possibly understand the most obvious trends of history and how clearly those could help us plan for the future.

• anonymous said on Apr 07, 2009....

  yeah fackts, so what? you talk bullshit

• seer said on Apr 09, 2009....

  Anonymous, you are the sort of person that goes on youtube to tell people they are 'douches'.
   
  Why do you feel so insecure about yourself you have to insult random strangers? Maybe you're not doing too well in life.
   
  You know what though? Its probably NOT the truth that I'm talking about the recession. But do you believe what you read in the papers? What the newspapers say? What society would have you believe? What I have said has come from newspapers, radio stations, anarchist, nazi and socialist propoganda, so an amalgamation of all points of view is likely to be the correct one, or rather as near as possible to the truth.

• seer said on Apr 09, 2009....

  Oh and Misty, thanks very much!
   
  I think there is a LOT we're not told, and a lot we don't even know about. I try to see through the world, like looking at everything with a cynical aspect. I mean when the government started taking loads of people into university and giving them grants - well that's a good thing, isn't it? They're just keeping the unemployment figures down.

• kevinunknown said on Apr 09, 2009....

  Seer. I think you may have missed the point a bit hear. Yes they’re not going to be pointing the blame but let’s face it that’s not much point because as it’s happened and now we’re all in this mess and pointing the blame won’t get us out of it, only rather hinder the work of those in a position to do anything about it.

  You say that “They're not interested in pointing blame, they would rather boost the financial state of the average person and reverse the recession.” Well yes that is what they want and it’s also what the everyday person wants

  You also seem to be misinformed as to how a government is funded it’s not by banks but through your tax’s. Of course banks do pay tax but I think you’re giving the impression that banks are funding the government in a more direct manor which is just wrong for if that was the case it would cause a conflict of interest none to popular with the electorate. And at the same time the media would have great fun with such a story.

  You also say that we have a banking code. Your right we do but it’s not working and the people in power have realised this and they have had this meeting so that they can make changes for example they have agreed to make a start eliminating tax havens.

  Then you also say “and we have no say about it”. Wrong we do that’s the great thing about a democracy if u don’t like the way the government is doing things you can vote and have that changed.

  Also Seer I think its low of u to insult someone’s spelling it doesn’t relay help your argument much. Anonymous is right only hasn’t put forward any sort of argument to back up his claim that you’re talking “shite”. In some ways you do have your facts wrong not all of them but some of them.

   

• seer said on Apr 09, 2009....

  Ok, first point, government campaigns in Britain are funded by charity. There was a scandle with labour selling peerages, cash for honours, and all that stuff. I'm poor. I've never funded a government capaign trail. But the rich do, and the government in power knows this, so that's why they keep the rich happy.

  Now our taxes go into the governement coffers, so that pays for policing, NHS, civil service ETC, but the campaign trails are charity funded.

  As for pointing blame about the recession, we NEED as a society to point blame to learn from the past. The mistake we make is words, not action. Every ten years there is a recession. Its slowing the process of humanity. And why? Because a capitalist model for global economics DOES NOT WORK. We believe that we can continually grow, but you will run out of resources and the whole thing will go backwards for a while - recession.

  As for your views on democracy - you've got it wrong. Do you remember the last president of America? One Mr G.W Bush. Do you honestly think he moved into the white house fairly?

  Our government in Britain (New Labour, Tony Blair then Gordon Brown) is much more laughable - the biggest protest ever held on British soil EVER was against the fox hunting ban. Then that was topped by the war in Iraq. And you'll never guess what - fox hunting was outlawed and we went to war (I'm glad of the fox hunting ban BTW). Besides, with our political parties they are all pretty or much the same thing anyway, there is very little difference between Labour, Tory, Lib Dem ETC. We don't vote for a governement decision, we vote for the political party who gets to decide on what happens. The problem with this is they usually have an alternative motive to what we're being told and half the time we don't like the idea and the public's best interests arn't at heart either. So its a very loose form of democracy, one that we have very little control over.

  As for what is fact, is what is read in the papers fact? Or how about the BBC (which is government funded, last time I checked!!)? What I'm offering is a VERSION of events, what I believe to be the truth, the theory I have come about through thinking, talking, reading newspapers, paying attention to the media, and anarchist/socialst/nazi propoganda as well as government propoganda, something in the middle is probably true, and that's what I'm offering here.

  Your views on what is true and what is false seems very idealistic and it seems like you listen to what you are told a LOT. Maybe you chose to believe what you are told because its easier than not?

   

   

• kevinunknown said on Apr 10, 2009....

  “Your views on what is true and what is false seems very idealistic and it seems like you listen to what you are told a LOT. Maybe you chose to believe what you are told because its easier than not?”  READ MY OTHER BLOGS!!!.

  Also I think that if you had to think and talk then go through all these news papers and read all this propaganda to come up with that theory then you really cant be very clever if that’s the best you can come up with.

  From what I have read in this blog and in other blogs you have wrote I don’t think there is any arguing with you. I respect you opinion on this subject however I do belief that it may be based on hearsay and your misunderstanding of the facts presented to you and that is why I chose to disagree with you

   

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