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There's a guy at my work, lets call him "Ben."  Ben is the classic loud mouth of the office that everyone tries to avoid having a conversation with, especially if he happens to be standing next to one of the execs.  He'll complain about everything wrong with the company, how management continues to make stupid, irresponsible decisions, and how we, the employees, are getting screwed.  Ben, himself, is irresponsible when he opens his mouth.  Lets just say he doesn't have a "filter."  We both speak an Indian language, and he will take advantage of that.  For example, if somebody is standing next to us that he wishes to comment about, he will stop speaking English and talk in the Indian language to me....VERY AUDIBLY and incredibly obvious to the person being commented about.  The poor sap would have to be a moron of biblical proportion to not realize he was topic of conversation all of a sudden. 

Do you realize how incredibly rude and embarassing that is?  It makes ME look like I'm with Mr. Stupid, as though I'm also partaking of his idiocity.  I would feel so uncomfortable if I was the poor guy.  I already feel uncomfortable having Ben talk to me about the guy in another language, because of how obvious it is.  But that's Ben and that's what he does.  He makes rude remarks within an earshot of the people he's talking about.  When I tell him to "shutup, people can hear you dude, you gotta stop saying shit like that out loud," he responds with "I don't care what they think..."  It's a wonder he hasn't gotten beat up, thrown out of our 56th floor window, or run over....YET.  A few of us guys just shake our heads after he leaves to go back to his desk.  We make light fun of the guy and laugh, doing our daily parody of his heightened lack of cluelessness.  Not to mention, he has ABSOLUTELY NO taste in fashion.  Not that you have to be a great dresser or have the best clothes.  That's not what I'm saying at all.  But, green pants with purple dress shirt and red tie deserves some sort of a fine, seriously.  But that's beside the point.  That's not a big deal...but if you're gonna talk smack for which you deserve to get an ass whoopin for, you better lay low.  Dressing like a suped up peacock doesn't exactly show you're laying low, know what I mean? 

On to my point...

Sometimes when he's talking to me one on one, he often mentions his wife.  The way he talks about his wife, how wonderful she is, how amazing their relationship is, how happy they are, it just gets to me.  He's just so bubbly and happy and his face just lights up when he talks about his wife....as if he's...*gulp*...."happy."  And I can't help but just feel this overwhelming amount of...not 'jealosy', but rather 'envy'.  I think 'jealousy' is more harsh and mean sounding.  It implies that I want to take that happiness away from him so I can have it all to myself.  No.  Instead, I use the term 'envy' because I want to know what to also feel what that marital happiness is like...where all I can do is talk about how wonderful my relationship with my wife is.  I want my face to light up everything I even THINK about my wife.  Unfortunately, it doesn't.  I feel gloomy, sad, angry, frustrated, hurt, regret, you get the idea.  Life is funny, isn't it?  You can't STAND somebody because of how annoying and how irritating that person is, but you can't stop envying him.  What a parodox!



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  • rupert7 said on Mar 14, 2009....
    Well, Ben sounds like king creep to me, and I wonder how happy his wife is and how much he just might be kidding himself? Sounds like he is compensating for something? I got to say that my wife would not let me dress like Ben, even if I wanted too (heaven forbid) Would any seriously caring wife be happy with such ridiculous lack of dress sense? By the way,my friend, the grass is never really greener on the other side! Every marriage has stresses and problems,whether they are revealed or concealed,they are there. Trust me, Ben has them too! *smile*

    While I am not an "expert" I do have 34 years experience between two marriages. Second one is still afloat after 24 years! lol
  • BurnedOut said on Mar 14, 2009....
    Haha...well, the reason why he has the fashion sense of an orangutan is because his wife shares the same (anti)fashion sense.  Perfect for each other.  But I rather not bring his wife into this:-)
     
    I know that you're right.  Its just, I would like to know what that feels like, just once...whether his marriage is great or not, ya know?
  • secretlife said on Mar 14, 2009....
    hmmmm.....well i think that anyone who is that rude to someone they work with can't be that different in his private life.
    have you heard the saying "the grass is always greener on the other side"?
    usually the grass is just grass on the other side-  it only apprears different, better, etc. from your vantage point.
     
    that being said, what are you doing to meet someone you might one day marry? 
     
  • BurnedOut said on Mar 14, 2009....
    secret...thank you.  yes, I have heard of that statement and I understand the grass is not always greener.  I just wish the grass on MY end was greener, that's all.  And no, I dont intend on marrying anyone else   lol.  I just want to be happy in my own marriage, that's all:-)
  • uniquely-ironic said on Mar 14, 2009....
    I'm doubtful that he's that happy, but it's nice to think someone could be that in love with their spouse.  I can understand the feeling of wanting that for yourself.  I don't have answers, just observations.
  • gingersoul said on Mar 14, 2009....
    Burney......i am sorry you haven't felt - not even once - that marital bliss that lights up Ben's face...
    You might think...this idiot can have it and i don't. ....why?

    You are talking about serious issues here, Burney......being married and not feeling the joy of it ...its not right...for you and for your wife as well.....specially because you are too young to be in a situation in which you should be happy..... and you are visibly not......

    I think its time for you to talk with your wife...deeply and honestly...

    Dont let this cancer eat your marriage from the inside...specially don't let the envy weighs you down unecessarily...

    You should be able to feel that bliss..to look in someone's eyes and have your face all animated because you are talking about the woman you had married, because you love her..

    Its never too soon for starting a new fresh relationship, if this is what you really want.



  • Lucytorial said on Mar 14, 2009....
    Is his wife truly happy though? he may light up talking about her but you don't know if she cringes everytime he opens the door, his mouth I wouldn't worry, I certainly wouldn't feel envy for a dip shit like that, you just don't know what its truly like in his marriage.
  • travelr712 said on Mar 14, 2009....
    i was thinking the same as lu just said, i wonder how happy his wife is?
  • HollyGoLightly said on Mar 14, 2009....
    dear, sweet *burnedout*~
     
    usually, when people like "Ben" really "get to" us, make us feel annoyed, irritated, even envious, it's because they are able to strike a nerve within us. "Ben" 's obvious love and enjoyment of his wife and marriage has perhaps struck a very fragile, even sometimes unconscious nerve of your own, regarding some very deep seeded emotions within yourself.
     
     When this happens, it forces us to confront the very issues, feelings, emotions, and people that we have (even subconsciously) perhaps been avoiding.  Besides this man's quite "unendearing" personality otherwise, this may be part of the reason you so dislike him, as well.
     
    Perhaps it's time for you to do some serious soul-searching...even if the end result is that, for now, your situation stays the same, you (and all of us ) should really take the time along our journeys for these little "time-outs" from the old day-to-day. 
     
     Stepping back for a bit, taking time for reflection, untangling emotions and thoughts ( that at times threaten to choke us like jungle vines), meditating, or soul-searching, with the focus being only yourself for the moment, (only your feelings, wishes, dreams, observations, opportunities for change and growth), is amazingly ( and scientifically proven to be ) spiritually cathartic.
     
     It is during those times that we clear away the debris and the dark clouds from our conscousness and allow room for some sunshine and fresh air to come in. From there, we are better equipped to be honest with ourselves, evaluate and make decisions about which directions we would like our lives to take, and re-strengthen our spirits for the journey.
     
    Perhaps it is time for the winds of change to pass breezily through your life, my friend, if so, listen to your heart, be honest with your wife, and then let yourself flow, rather than fight, with the changes.
     
    ((hugs))  and
    *peace be your journey*
     
    *~*Holly*~*
     
     
  • princessbitch65 said on Mar 14, 2009....
    There's a jack-ass at my job who not only is the most disliked but I think he doesn't realize how good he has it.These type of people would be the ones if I could get away with it, I'd smack him around a bit!
  • mobil said on Mar 14, 2009....
    I don't know......maybe you could introduce Ben to your wife and ask him if he'd like two?
  • Hegemone said on Mar 14, 2009....
    Burnsie ... that's probably exactly why he's so obnoxious, his home life is good, he has much love and is happy, so why worry about all the rest?  It does stink that you have to envy him, that you can't feel the same thing ... but, maybe its just something to get you to do a little brain storming to find different ways to bring that back into your marriage ... maybe?  
  • husbandhater said on Mar 14, 2009....

    I just stopped home from day job(Yes I did a double there) and I'm headed back out the door to night job. I stopped in to peak and oh my God this is sooooo funny. I can't stop laughing at this post. This is a great post until we reach the BOTTOM.

    Burnie I'm right there with you  budddy. I kinda envy this guy too. I wonder what it feels like to go home and ACTUALLY WANT to be there? I wonder what it's like to go home and be happy to see the other person. I remember there was a time I was like your commrade Ben and I bragged about my hubby, lite up face and all. I think that was the 1st year of marriage. After that I don't know when things took a turn but they did. And it's been traveling at break neck speed ever sense.

    I actually asked my husband yesterday if he thought our marriage was going to last. His response was if you change somethings about you sure. Well I feel the same way. Is it really fair to expect people to change to make them who or what you need them  to be when obviously they aren't ?

    I don't know maybe Holly is right we need to take a step back and meditate. I know I tried to talk to my husband and alot of good that did. It turned into a semi argument. I was trying to explain my feeling. and he was trying to put his voice into things. God Bless us all thought. {{{{{{{{{{{{{{Burnie}}}}}}}}}}}}} Gotta go babe see you soon. *Smile* Kisses and hugs dude it'll get better for us all hopefully.

  • BurnedOut said on Mar 14, 2009....
    I just want to thank everyone for all the outpouring.  If I was at work, I could respond to each of you one by one because there's a lot of responses I have for you all.  But I'm home, and wifey isn't too far away, so no time right now.  But thank you all for your support and encouragements!!  I'll keep pluggin away at this thing call marriage:-)
  • rupert7 said on Mar 15, 2009....
    Burned -  I am so happy to hear you say you are going to work on your marriage! A good marriage does not just happen by magic....it is hard work all the time - on going
    maintenance, so to speak. Communication,sharing,give and take. Think of the marriage as a ship and the husband and wife as the maintenance crew. It is a team effort. While there's work, ya gotta have JOINT R & R as well! *smile*
  • BurnedOut said on Mar 15, 2009....
    Rupert....yeah I never said I was giving up on it.  In fact, I'm always trying to work on it.  I just get frustrated just like every other person in a marriage who are still waiting to reap the love and respect they have been constantly sowing
  • rupert7 said on Mar 15, 2009....
    Burned - I do hear what you are saying and for a fact your wife has to work at the marriage too...for sure. It is a question of team work. I am at al loss, I don't know what else to say. I hope things work out for you and your wife. I hate divorce,I have been there and I have to tell you it is a very bleak road to walk and there are no winners - not really......good luck my friend.
  • HollyGoLightly said on Mar 15, 2009....
    *hi guys*~
     
    As I have continued to read along here, I've sensed some real sadness, and heartache; the realization of things not turning out as we always hoped ( or thought) that they would.
     
    I've been married before, and divorced. I've had my share of serious long-term relationships, as well. I know how it all works. I know, as *rupe* said, that marriage requires alot of work, sometimes "hard work", especially if the other partner is unwilling to work as well.
     
    I was just wondering, if the hard work any of you are doing, with no reward of fruitation...why is it worth it for you to continue? 
     
     Please, don't take this as a smart-ass comment, for it is not at all meant in that way, but is a genuinely serious question. My marriage ended because it had to end, or physically he would have eventually killed me. So I have to wonder, in marriages where that isn't the case, what keeps one staying when there is such a case of lost hope, perhaps broken dreams, an unwilling partner ?  If one is just going through the motions, unfulfilled, and perhaps holding onto the ghost of what the marriage once was, why isn't it worth it to leave, and have the chance to make up some wasted (for lack of a better word) time, by giving your own life a chance for some happiness (not necessarily with another person), just personal, true happiness?
     
    *~*Holly*~*
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
     
  • husbandhater said on Mar 15, 2009....

    Holly I ask myself this question everyday. I think somewhere deep down inside we still have love in some form for our spouses. And the stakes are high b/c of other influences like children. I already was a single parent once. Wasn't the best experience but I did have peice of mind with somethings. But I love my son and I don't want to see him without his dad. And then there are times that my husband is sweet and caring that I think how could I say and think such horrible things but those times are now so few and far btwn that after a moment like this he's back to all the things I've said and that you've read and I'm like shit thats why I said and think such horrible things.

    I know many don't see these as proper reasons or maybe even strong enough but for now it is all I have(B/c I don't know about anyone here but I do know about me.)

  • BurnedOut said on Mar 16, 2009....
    Rupert....I can assure you, divorce is not an option and I wont let it end that way.  I've thought about it several times, but I had to take my two kids into consideration.  Actually, it's more like I had to put THEM in the center of it all and THEN make my decision and it's clearly a no brainer.  A divorce would crush them and it's not fair to them. 
     
    Holly...I do understand what you're saying and believe me, I've thought about it several times, but I just cant do that to my little girls.  Putting them through a divorce would be cruel and unfair to them.  They never asked for any of this, you know?  They are innocent, but yet they will be the ones affected the most.  That's too much to ask of an 8 and 3 year old.  But your concern is genuine and I thank you for your input:-)
     
    Husband...You hit it right on the nail and I couldn't have said it better myself.  Thank you:-))
  • starchini said on Mar 19, 2009....
    Mr. Burns, need I remind you of a steamy love making session in the back seat of your car by a park with the window cracked?  Psh, what on earth do you have to be envious of!? Bah!  : ) 
  • travelr712 said on Mar 19, 2009....
    rupe, i've never expressed this before, but i will here. i've been divorced twice. i'm actually still legally married. i've been separated from my wife for two years now. we tried for a few months to see if we could reconcile, you might remember gracefully growing. it just didn't work. we can't be together. that's ok with me, i don't want to be with her. but...
     
    the prospect of ANOTHER divorce, i don't know. i can't figure it out. even when i've tried, filled out all the paperwork, something from outside my life comes up to stop me. this last time, i was all set to start the proceedings, and then a week later i lost my job. the entire american economy stopped me from getting divorced! but i think somewhere, somehow, it's because of me. not because i want to still be married to that person, but because i just don't want to have to go through another divorce.

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