• secretlife said on Feb 25, 2009....

  yes.......crazy!
  gotta be careful with teenagers underfoot!

• JackW said on Mar 05, 2009....

  Secret...this is just scraping the surface of crazy...there were a few years where I was sneaking around the kids, before I could be seen as "legit" because T. had not yet separated from her ex...its a long story I intend to tell. So far not in chronological order..which might make more sense in the end, if it can at all!
   
  There's certainly not alot of moral high ground in these escapades, but it happened for some reason or another...can't say I didn't (we) didn't enjoy it.
  I didn't know when it began that I would enjoy the aspect of having teens around, but I did, but not half as much as T. seemed to enjoy it. She was very much an exhibitionist , even around her boys...
   
  One example comes to mind...Once I was "acceptable" and able to be around her kids, I was hanging out at T.'s house one night, Xboxing with the boys when T. comes down in her favorite teddy. She's walking around in it,also talking face to face with her oldest... The teddy :  its short (just at crotch height) and has solid portions of fabric, with a flowery pattern of lace going through it. This means that at crucial points you can see portions of her breasts(nipples,aereolas), even a view of her trimmed bush...  I'm sitting watching this, absolutely loving it, and amazed...apparently it was just her casual nature, which is great. her sons didn't seem to notice it.
   
    I'm all for casualness at home, its the way I grew up and it definitely takes away alot of the social stigma placed on immodesty....

• secretlife said on Mar 05, 2009....

  that's a very different environment than i keep at my house Jack-
  i was raised in a very old fashioned italian american catholic home and my mother was as repressed as they came.  my parents were not overly demonstrative and you'd call them very socially conservative.
   
  i'm not quite as conservative, but i've never worn a teddy around the kids-  i used to change into them once the kids were in bed and we were behind closed doors when they were little, but since they've been old enough to understand, there's modesty here and i like it that way----  i'll hang out in a nightgown or pj's with them, but nothing's showing- 
   
  sex is behind closed and most of the time locked doors when they're asleep or out. 
   
  with kids, sex is tricky-
  it's not just about the two of you, but also about the lifelong impressions you can leave with your kids-

• JackW said on Mar 10, 2009....

  Secret,
   
  Believe me I understand the impression adults can make on kids. My mom was single during the 60's and 70's  and had what some might call a distorted approach to many things in life, including how to raise kids, sex and relationships.
   
  While she didn't make it a point to be nude in front of me all the time or have sex openly in front of me, she was casual about being seen nude ( on the way to the bathroom, in the shower, dressing) She dated quite a bit ( Free Love of the 60's)
  and was occasionally unaware of doors being open and/or my being awake at early hours of the morning. I saw quite a bit, but I can't say it left me terribly scarred psychologically. As I got older (into my teens) I was at first much more interested in what I was seeing ( she was very beautiful and could have been a model or been in Playboy), but as I matured I learned to respect her privacy too.
  Overall I'd say I just didn't grow with Guilt around sex, nudity and all..which isn't such a bad thing.
   
  Overall I think its important to be open with kids about everything, to be available to talk with them, and I my mom was always able to talk to me about anything, including things I'd seen at home... I would think it would be harder to talk about sex if you kept it shrouded in mystery and guilt, but maybe thats just me...never had kids, but I was married to a woman who grew up Roman Catholic and was totally screwed up when it came to sex because of the guilt her parents inflicted on her. Hence, no kids, and a divorce....

• starchini said on Mar 11, 2009....

  interesting...im usually pretty darn open and all about public sex and an adrenaline rush, but i dont know how ill be about the kids thing.  I somehow dont think i would want my kid to see me naked.  Although, my family was catholic but very open.  My brother and I shared a bathroom and when ya gotta pee ya gotta pee no matter what someone else is doing in there, we learned early on instead of fighting over who gets the bathroom we just shared, he would pee infront of me but of course turned the other way and i would pee infront of him with my hands in my lap.  So neither of us ever "saw" eachother but we definitly wernt shy.  So i think i view it on an as needed basis. 

• HollyGoLightly said on Mar 20, 2009....

  Raising 3 kids as a single Mom , 2 of them being boys, I communicated with them very openly, on an age-appropriate basis, regarding sex, and love, and many, many topics that come up with growing kids. I dated alot, also worked at 2 & 3 jobs at a time just to keep a roof over our heads, a couple of these jobs requiring me to dress pretty provocatively, yet, in many ways I dressed that way casually as well (NOT slutty, just suggestive...I had a good body and loved presenting it to it's maximum advantage).
   
  But one thing is this, I never ran around nude in front of my sons, and especially was careful not to ever let them find me in a "compromising" position. I am NO prude, but would never be comfortable standing in front of my grown boys with my
  ~bare~ bush showing, especially. That is going way too far, not because of ME, but because of THEM. Young men get to a certain age where that is not healthy for them, as they are dealing with their own hormones, and sexual situations, and don't need the confusion of Mom's sexuality right in their faces like that.
   
  When they moved out, and I got my own place, I run around nude or in bra and panties only all damn day...but I would never do anything in front of my boys to make them uncomfortable in that way (which even as you say, they're not "showing it"~ I can bet they're thinking and feeling alot more about it than you & she realize...).
   
  The bottom line is~~by the time boys are of a grown-up age, a mother should at least have enough respect for them, even if she doesn't for herself, to dress appropriately in front of them. Lastly, there are alot of women, who feel drawn to their male children when they reach an age of sexual maturity, and even if they would never "go there", they will react jealously to any girls that are brought home to meet the family, and she will continue to push the envelope, a little further each time, as she is attracted to his budding sexuality, and wants to be noticed by him.
   
  None of this may apply to you & yours, I'm just saying what I know about it, and really, this lady of yours should realize it's time to show respect for them, by not parading around in her lingerie, etc.  Whether she realizes it  or not, not only is it embarassing for them, but she could be doing some real damage by continuing to cross that invisible boundary line between parent & child.
   
   
   
   
   
   

• JackW said on Apr 01, 2009....

  Holly...message received...appreciate your opinions...its all different strokes for different folks certainly. While I like some of the erotic aspects of being watched by others, being caught, etc... the reality of your own kids or relations of some kind actually seeing something is another story I know...in the case of T. and I it was more about what was on her mind...they were her kids and I was just in the mix so to speak...It was exciting for me because it seemed to be exciting for her to push the envelope...as you'll see as I continue to post.  We could go on and on about the relative merits of respect, individual choice etc...

   

• HollyGoLightly said on Apr 01, 2009....

  ...point taken, I respect everyone's right to live and breathe, and experience their own sexuality as they see fit...love to read more~
   
  *~*Holly*~*

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