• Hegemone said on Feb 23, 2009....

  I think its possible if that person fills some sort of emotional need you have.  Its the same as somebody being in your day to day life and filling that spot.  The only difference is, you may have to doubt how true it really is, considering, unless you can SEE that person, maybe even HEAR them, you can't really know how true it is that they are who they are, or mean what they say.  I'd say its OK as long as you're cautious.  This is why I spend so much time getting to know a person, it takes me a while to trust somebody enough even to share my real first name.  So far as love, well, I don't know what to say about that one.  Interesting post for sure!

• MsStar39 said on Feb 23, 2009....

  I do believe that it is possible to have  cyber love, the question i always hear is do you consider it cheating in the true sense of the word, all answers that that i have read is yes.

• mixednuts said on Feb 23, 2009....

  Thankyou Star &  Hegemone!

  ps...it could be cheating if it might go somewhere later. If true love grows then let it grow.  If friendship is all it was going to be...then let it be a wonderful friendship anyway!

• HollyGoLightly said on Feb 23, 2009....

  *mixednuts*~been down this road before haven't we? (winkwink)
   
  I think it's possible to have cyber-friendship...between men & women as well as same-sex  friendships...if it starts to cross the line...both parties need to redefine terms of "friendship"...
  Cyber-"love" to me is probably not a good idea...it never seems to work as well as the "real" thing...
  Cyber-sex is completely different, as usually the terms are are fun/pleasure based and parties have agreed that's all it is. Definately feel that anyone in a commited "real-life" relationship is commiting a form of adultery against their partner by engaging in this...
   
  *peace*
   
  ~*~Holly~*~

• mixednuts said on Feb 23, 2009....

  Thanks Holly.I  catch your drift. It all (love) can hurt..(wink,wink)

  I'm so fuckin happy that you are back! Not a day went by without you on my mind!

• HollyGoLightly said on Feb 23, 2009....

  (now I know you are exaggerating...but thank you)
   
  p.s. how "fuckin'" happy are you???
   
  ;)  lol

• uniquely-ironic said on Feb 23, 2009....

  I personally think a cyber friendship between a man and woman is more possible than in RL.  No physical chemistry to manage.  As for love, hmmmmm, it's possible but at some point it needs to be taken to the next stage ..... RL.

• mixednuts said on Feb 23, 2009....

  Don't kid yourself! You were important to the L13 dude, and always, always will be!

  In fact you were! thought of every day.

  You don't need to be "DEEP"though. Still waters run very DEEP!

  I have no expectations, so I won't get hurt again.

• HollyGoLightly said on Feb 23, 2009....

  hmm...confused... please 'splain "don't need to be deep"??

• mixednuts said on Feb 23, 2009....

  U.I. is so right! There must be a  "NEXT LEVEL", but it all takes time if you want it to be real, and last. I want it that way  anyway. FRIENDSHIP FIRST!!!

  Things need to grow from "level one".

  Perhaps people like me are to difficult to handle anyway. One can be honest, loyal, funny..etc.etc.etc...but It doesn't make a damn difference it seems.

  I WANT TRUE FRIENDSHIP! everything else is GRAVY!

• fragglesrock said on Feb 23, 2009....

  i think cyber friendship is great! and the few really good cyber friends i have i am indeed, beginning to love, but in a friendship way, and they are same sex. i don't know if it would be different b/t opposite sexes?  opposite sex friendships in real life can become so confusing, i imagine it'd be the same way online???

• uniquely-ironic said on Feb 23, 2009....

  in real life it doesn't work out all that often too, so next level of cyber romance doesn't guarantee success.

• mixednuts said on Feb 23, 2009....

  I have male cyber friends, but it's never the same feeling (thank god)

  Females can rock my boat. With guys the boat don't float.

• fragglesrock said on Feb 23, 2009....

  yeah, i'm quite the opposite...the males can get my guy in the boat excited but the females can't...oh wait that's not what you were talking about at all...bad fraggles!!! going to my room now....

• uniquely-ironic said on Feb 23, 2009....

  [laughing at fraggles]

• CreativeWoman said on Feb 23, 2009....

  I think it is possible and happens every day.  I have a sister-in-law who met her now husband on Eharmony.com .  I would think that finding a genuine,sincere person would be the key thing.  That's true of any dating situation.
  
  CW
  

• mixednuts said on Feb 23, 2009....

  I ain't talkin bout LOVE!

  I'm here, you're there.........LOVE!?

  Like me for who and what I am, or not at all!

  Get to know ...................ME!

• thunderpussy said on Feb 23, 2009....

  You can be serious or funny. Lets be blog buddies.

• copsunite said on Feb 23, 2009....

   

  considering how many free blog sites there are these people can take a walk. this isn't even enteresting

  why don't you blog about other topics. i've got friends already

• mixednuts said on Feb 23, 2009....

  Perhaps I should reword the entire thing!

• PieterOpie said on Feb 23, 2009....

  There are two worlds.  The real world and the cyber-world.  We interact with both and the level of interaction is only limited by the constraints of either world respectively.  In the real world we have the advantage of eye-to-eye contact and body language to help us communicate - and those factors come into play much more than we consciously realise at the time.  However we are constrained by social morés and conventions.  We behave according to unspoken rules and laws; at least most of us do.  We do not go beyond those invisible fences that keep us apart and of course the kind of restriction is tailored to the particular relationship.  It is very different for example for parent to child, or male relative to male relative or total strangers.
  
  The cuber-world is similar on the surface because we try to behave according to similar rules.  Or do we?  No we don't.  We often cannot see each other.  We do not get any cues from facial expressions or body gestures.  We don't see if someone is shocked or amused unless they tell us.  Even when they do it is delayed and is only as accurate as the other person is skilled at coveying their emotions in printed form.  We have developed a whole range of tricks and helpers to assist us.... such as the lexicon used in internet chat.  If we find something amusing we type "LOL"  or if we are shocked we type "OMG".  However these little emoticons (often in graphic form - smilies) are not as complex as the actual human face.  I find myself combining them to more accurately express myself.  How they are interpreted is another thing again.   Obviouslly there are some limits on the way we can express ourselves.  Keep in mind that some are better at writing than others.  Some people like me go on and on and on and others can't type for shit and keep it brief. It hides our faults and foibles.  We can hide behind our words and emoticons. 
  
  Then we need to remember that all the usual social rules that keep us in check in the real world are just not applicable.  As much as we personally may choose to adhere to them, there are plenty of people who totally behave in a manner they would never do in reality.  The cyber-world is a vast varied mixture of all these different interactons coming togther.  They do tend to sort themselves out to a large degree.  All the sex fiends end up in one place; the puppy and kitty enthusiasts end up in their safe little place and we have ended up in here.
  
  Soulcast is terrific because it accomodates a large range of people who can come together in threads or avoid each other by sticking to particular categories.  Occasionally the clash but it can never result in the kind of consequences that might result in the real world - such as strangling each other or ending up in a writhing slippery heap on the floor in some depraved orgiatic embrace. 
  
  We invent an avatar - a persona.  How real are those?  They vary hugely from my own - who uses his real name (always) and behaves in a somewhat bolder version of the real me - but close to my personality; to someone like SatanX who likes to project that detached "evil" persona which serves a purpose known only to him - just for fun I expect.  How many of us are truly close to the real ones?  Then all these interact and remember with out the usual rules.... we can reveal much more than we ever would in real  life with strangers.  We are secure behind our avatars and our words.  We discuss intimate things that we might not with real people.  The reasons for that are pretty obvious I think.
  
  So what happens when we invarialby develop a repore with "special friends" who we communicate with easily and who share ideas which are agreeable?  Is that a real friendship?  I think it is; here in the cyber-world.  It is as real as the the environment as where that friendship exists.  Our emotions are expressed differently but we still experience them the same way - in our real world.  We don't "fee" with our avatars.  We actually feel the love or the hate in our real emotions.
  
  That is where the problems begin.  What is real and what isn't?  The love that I feel for some people I know well on the internet is real enough but what do I love - or who do I love?   I love a person from the cyber-world.  NOT the corresponding real person.  They might be similar but they could also be completely different from their real personalities.  If I met you I would automatically reascess you using all the usual interactions, the visual, the expressions and the personas projected by the physical person.  What I knew about you from the cyber-world would not matter that much in that initial moment.  It would be different for you as it would be for every single person.
  
  Could I be "real" friends with my online buddies?  I don't know.  It has never arisen for me and it is unlikely in the future.  As soon as such a possibility is put to me I freak out and withdraw.  Why... I don't need another real friend in my real world but want to maintain the friendship I have in the cyber-world. 
  
  Now we can also discuss at length meeting people online with the object of making a connection in the real world.  Then we would behave much more like our real selve.... or so you'd think.  Yeah, right.  But I will leave that for another time.
  
  Always remember one thing.  We live in the real world.  That we cannot change.  We exist only as binnary code in the cybe-world and so does everybody else.  If the dog chews through the power chord they all vannish.  They are gone.  The screen goes dark and the interactions stops. 
  
  Don't drag to many cuber-realities over into the real world.  You feel both of them in your real mind (and heart).  Be careful to sort them out when you log out. 
  
  
  

• RollingC said on Feb 24, 2009....

  I think it's entirely possible to make and have friends on the internet but another set of rules apply for a healthy friendship/relationship.  You can't see the person and you've never met them so at the beginning at least you have to...trust but verify...inasmuch as you possibly can. 
  You also have to have a big container of salt so you can take everything with a grain of salt so to speak. 
  By and by the real smart/perceptive readers are able to "feel" or maybe "deduct" the truth behind the words being typed that "give" an illusion of the author's personality.
  And if you're not a real smart/perceptive reader then you have to go with your inner feelings and/or consume a lot of salt.
  Rc
  

• husbandhater said on Feb 24, 2009....

  I think it is totally possible to develop a friendship from the cyber world. It sort of like what they did in our parents time with penpals except that your using a machine now that gives you an instant response. But I do think you have to be careful in order not to end up contacting a nut. But whose to say that that didn't occur amongst penpals either?

• PieterOpie said on Feb 24, 2009....

  HH:  Yes, that is perfectly true.  However are you going to get along with them if you were to meet them in person?   Would you even want to meet them?  It is a friendship on a different level to an actual one.  In both cases you are not making that full connection which is only possible face to face. 
  
  
  

• darkerthanlight said on Feb 24, 2009....

  I think it is possible to have cyber friends.

• pusscat said on Feb 24, 2009....

  I have met people in real life who, after believing I knew them quite well, stabbed me in the back from out of the blue.  We never truly know anyone.  I have often said that if I were blind, I would not be able to read my neighbour's body language when she speaks to me but I would hear her tone.  Tone alone can often be misinterpreted.  If I were deaf I would not necessarily hear sarcasm and body language alone doesn't tell me.  We each and every day put our trust in complete strangers - the bus or train driver we hope is paying attention and not been drinking.  The surgeon that we hope has a steady hand and hasn't brought his/her divorce problems to work with them.  We do this almost without thinking about it sometimes.
  
  When I have made cyber friends they are very real.  It may be a different type of relationship but none the less real.  Your relationship with your brother is different than that of your Dad's best friend, or your own best friend, but it is a real relationship non-the-less.  My cyber friends have given me some marvellous, life saving advice over the time I've met and conversed with them.  That advice and help and support wouldnt be any different if given in person or over the phone.  The words and the sentiment would be the same.  If someone is the kind of person that want to help someone, then real time or cyber they are going to still be that person. 
  
  If I had built up that kind of raport with someone, then I met them in real life, if I couldnt learn to get along with them just cos they maybe had habits or traits I wasn't aware of then its a poor tale and it would make me a very shallow, selfish person indeed.
  

• starchini said on Feb 24, 2009....

  I think online is the only way that a man and a woman can be just friends.  If any of ya read me at all I went on a big bitchy rampage about my stance on male and female friendships.  I simply dont think its possible.  One of the two parties wants more, always.  If your the one that thinks "oh, no no we are just friends, nothing more, he/she doesnt want anything more either, blah blah"...the other party is lying to you...they know that you dont want anything more and would rather be "just friends" than nothing at all.  I dont care what anyone says, one of the two people in a "just friends" relationship always wants more, even if its a secret.  And sooner or later, ten, twenty, fifty years down the road, one of them is gonna make a move, or atleast profess their undying love theyve harbored all along...I think online, homosexuality and maybe in extreme cases like a huge age difference or if one or both is ugly as fuck, and one of them or both is really really shallow...Thats just my opinion... : P 

• barbeee said on Feb 24, 2009....

  I take my friends any way I can get them

• wild-ting said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Happy cyber love is possible. Haven't you all heard of Aaron & Rosie? Team ARF? Aaron and Rosie Forever?
  
  Aaron and Rosie met on flickr. They were in involved in a project where she'd post an image of herself on Sunday and he'd work an image of himself into that photo so that it looked like they were together in the photo. The lived 4500 hundred miles apart--she in England and I think he was in North Carolina. They became online friends, fell in love and eventually met. They now work as partners and have a photography business.
  
  ARF original photos set here
  
  

• wild-ting said on Feb 24, 2009....

  It is possible to have good friends that you eventually love--not romantic love (but that can happen too). As many have pointed out, without the true 3-D in the flesh image, reactions, etc. you are only getting to know a part of a person, and usually the part THEY chose to reveal. If and when you meet that person, the chemistry and bond is lacking because now all this other stuff comes into play. The way they laugh, the way the look, the sound of their voice, habits, facial expressions, body movements etc. This definitely affects the way you receive a person and read and understand them. It is either positively or negatively received and that is where things begin to fall apart. Depending on this, you will see that the cyber friend or cyber-relationship was better and/or easier because there was less "stuff" in the way.
  
  On another note--but same subject: I have a male friend who is so Net-addicted that it is causing him problems in having a real-life relationships. His marriage was going south for years, he turned to the Internet for porn and friendship. For 10 years now he's been developing love relationships with women on the Internet. Problem is he has many lovers, some of them are so desparate for attention they believe all he says and believe they are they love of his life. They honestly love him. He says he loves them, too. When he gets found out (at least three times in the 3 years I've known him) he just moves on to another woman. Funny thing is he's honest about his situation--married with children; may divorce. However, he's not honest with his feelings for these women or his intentions. The women are falling in love with a fake. He behaves with them the way they need him to behave. He stays excited and loves it all because he's always got a fresh relationship. He doesn't really "love" he gets high off of the endless perfect attention. The downside for him is he isn't willing to do the work it takes to maintain a real relationship. He said he doesn't want to deal with "emotionals". I think he may have doomed himself to this life of being in limbo. His relationships are real virtual relationships, yet the women seem to expect all the same of a real-life relationship. Clearly, the two are not the same.
  
  He's really quite interesting. Maybe I should look for some research dollars and study him more.  :-)
  
  -WT
  

• pusscat said on Feb 24, 2009....

  wild_ting - thank you for posting that.  I went and had a look.  A wonderful site, beautiful photos and an even more wonderful story :-)
  
  mixednuts - I know this may sound strange but i guess I almost took for granted that people knew about CJ (cuppajava) and I here on SC.  We met by accident here really when he was trying to help me when i was not in a very good place.  We didn't know each other and had never even read each others posts before.  He has now been my Sir for 9 months.  He is not just my Sir.  He is my best friend.  My confidente.  He is also the total love of my life.  There is nothing that he doesn't know about me and there is (almost ;-) nothing that i don't know about him.  I'm sure when we come to live together there will be things that maybe annoy us about each other - things that I hope we are adult enough to compromise over.  Compromise is what keeps life rolling along.  Without it we'd be at war with everyone lol!  Our relationship is as real as anyone's.  We argue, we have heated debates, we laugh and we cry.  We comfort each other, we support each other.  We have the same problems in our relationship that anyone in real time has. 
  

• wild-ting said on Feb 24, 2009....

  mixednuts,
  
  
  When I first read this post I thought you were my guy-friend that I discussed above. (...and I'm still not sure that you aren't).
  
  -WT
  

• PieterOpie said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Ah, but should cyber-people be allowed to adopt the cyber-children of cyber-women who chose not to delete them?  Should they be allowed to delete them in the first place?    What if Cyber-people's code becomes corrupted should society be able to erase them from the database?  How would these things affect us in the real world?  Is it our business? 
  These are all issues no one seems have addressed so far.  Cyber-people have feelings too you know!!!  Cyber-rights today!!!!
  

• pusscat said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Pieter - you took your sweet bloody time getting here lol!
  
  My code got corrupted once.  I tried to get another one on the cheap - you know how the economy is at the mo, but the idiots gave me a 5 dollar barcode instead!  My Sir said it made me quite sexy but I had to get corrrected in the end and it cost me a fortune ;-)
  

• satanz said on Feb 24, 2009....

  I am therefor I am.Like me or hate me. I am.

• PieterOpie said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Pussycat:   Hey, don't yell at me mate, I'm not some cyber-dickhead you know.... I'm a real one!!!        . . . . . . . . . (?)    eh, wait......  I mean I'm not a dickhead at all.         (d'oh)
  
  SEE... how confusing this all is?  Did you not see my MEGA-POST in here (scroll up)  It is more like a thesis than a post.    It's the pills...  they make me a bit speedy and I tend to rave on a bit...... a lot....   Sorry, it is semi-serious.  No shenanigans or silliness you have come to know and love so much. 
  
  Does this mean we are . .... •C•Y•B•E•R•F•R•I•E•N•D•S• !!!!!!!!!!   (OMG!!!)  Oh no... what will become of us?  Can we really love each other like normal flesh people?  Will I ever take joy in seeing your smile?  Will you ever be able to punch me in the stomach for one of my frequent asinine remarks?  Will you ever be able to faint upon seeing my stunningly beautiful face? 
  
  OH.... WOE IS ME (and you too....)  We are cursed.... destined to roam the glass fibre networks foreveeeeeerrrrrrrrrr.........    BOOHOO....
  
  
  Hmm, okay....  well, I'm over it, are you? 
  Let us begin fresh.  I'll reset my computer if you will.  Let's clear the RAM and boot up all over again.   We can put your sordid behaviour behind us.....
  
  
  Let's see now.... press <ctrl> + <cmd> + <esc>.....  ZAP!!!! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
  

• mixednuts said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Alright already!

• wild-ting said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Everybody chant:
  
  Up with cyber-people, down with real people, Up with cyber-people...
  
  Oh wait :-/
  
  I think we need real people in order to have cyber-people.
  
  Why can't we just all get along (hehehe). PieterOpie you're a card.
  
  -WT
  

• wild-ting said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Everybody chant:
  
  Up with cyber-people, down with real people, Up with cyber-people...
  
  Oh wait :-/
  
  I think we need real people in order to have cyber-people.
  
  Why can't we just all get along (hehehe). PieterOpie you're a card.
  
  -WT
  

• pusscat said on Feb 24, 2009....

  Pieter - ha ha!!
  
  I did see your wonderful epic the other day my darlng dear cyber friend but I knew you wouldn't be able to resist coming back here like me lol!  And yes. . . I do luuuuurve your shenanigans (oh how I love that word) ;-) :-*  :-*
  

• mixednuts said on Feb 25, 2009....

  I suppose that having a cyber G-FRIEND would be a form of cheating if you have an earth lover, but the heart wants what the heart wants. *One can give something the *other can't...I guess. If the tracks cross a choice needs to be made. If you met the cyber love first.....which way do you go?

  A bird in the hand is better than two in the bush, they say. But can a person LOVE both? Can you be close to both? Will iether accept this? Would you?

• PieterOpie said on Feb 25, 2009....

  Mixednuts:  If you have two lovers then you do a bit of "Copying & Pasting" of course.

• mixednuts said on Feb 25, 2009....

  I have one new earth girl. But there's the soulcast love of my life 2. I'm dazed and confused, but I'm sure it's all over as of this posting. I wanna DIE!

• pusscat said on Feb 25, 2009....

  Hey mixed - I'm figuring you're actually being serious here.  The thing is, your feelings for both are as real to you, in your heart, as any feelings that anybody has.  There probably isn't any easy quick fix solution to your dilemma either.  It is quite possible to be genuinely in love with two people.  Those two people could be as different as chalk and cheese and so they both have qualities that you do truly love.
  
  A few things to maybe think of are does the online girl know you are in love with her?  i.e. if you were to choose the new real life girl over the cyber girl, would you be hurting the cyber girl?  I know it would still hurt you but at least you would know you weren't hurting someone else?. . . How is the real life relationship going?  does this feel like it may have a future?  It would be such a shame to give up on something good before it's really got going for the sake of a relationship that may not have any real future.  i would never belittle an online relationship though mixed as mine with my Sir is online and i already know that we are going to spend the rest of lives together when he comes back to the UK.  i do think that you began seeing the real life girl for a reason - there must have been things that drew you to her and made you enjoy being with her.  I do hope you can work thigns through.
  

• mixednuts said on Feb 27, 2009....

  What should have been...what could have been. Cyber friendship works, but don't fall into the quicksand of cyber love.

• pusscat said on Feb 27, 2009....

  'fraid it's waaaaaay too late for me hun lol!  I'm in for the long haul now but I know my Vince feels the same way I do and that we both want to be together in real life eventually.  I can imagine all the pitfalls out there though.  I bet there have been a million plus hearts broken in cyber space.  I hope your heart mends soon hun (((((((( mixed ))))))))

• pleasantskies said on Mar 01, 2009....

  Well, I've made a couple excellent friends online that I've never met, but feel I know very well. I have chat with them over the phone. They are both female. I feel cyberfriendships is not the issue, it's the people themselves. Some people are worth the effort and others aren't. I also write to penpals. I've never met them. I found them on penpalling sites online and write through regular mail. It's the same thing to me. 

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 05, 2009....

  Pieter, you're making me laugh my ass off and being so damn articulate at the same time (especially in the essay above). In fact, you're touching on something I've been thinking of and wondering about--that it's possible to "love" someone online that you really don't care for in RL (and vice versa).
   
  I can see what some of the others mean, because I'm sure it's possible to have real cyber-friends, but I don't think everyone necessarily wants to have cyber-friends that cross over into that real-friend territory. Maybe it all depends on how content you are with your RL friends and relationships already.
   
   

• PieterOpie said on Apr 05, 2009....

  M.E.  Can you specify which Pieter you are talking to.  The Cyber-me, who is much more glamorous, better looking and enormously well-hung, or the real Pieter who is old, fat, ugly and toothless and hasn't seen it* for years? 
  CyberPiet is feeling smug and agrees that I am pretty damn smart....  Fat Pieter is dribbling coffee on his shirt again because he has lips that leak...... Damn!!! 
  
  
  * (it = my dick.       booo hooo hoooooo....)
  

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 06, 2009....

  LOL. I know the feeling (and of course I hardly believe your exxagerations). Or rather, I believe all of them simultaneously. They all express the REAL you, if not quite physically or literally.
   
  Me, I'm your standard ugling-duckling-complex-unattainable-goddess. For real! 

• PieterOpie said on Apr 06, 2009....

  Wow!!  We are a perfect match and naturally whenever that happens the woman finds out that.... YES... I am gay!!   Fucking typical isn't it?    heeeheeheeeeheeeeee......
  
  
  

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 08, 2009....

  except that I already knew that (from reading several of your blogs and responses),
  which is why cyber-life is just so much easier sometimes
  
  

• PieterOpie said on Apr 08, 2009....

  And of course I knew that you knew because... eh... well, I'm psychic.   Yep.  That's right.  Or to be more precise, I am very intuitive to the point of being practically psychic.  
  
  Honest..... would I lie to you?  I'll prove it.  Right now you're thinking that I am the most amazing, best looking, incredibly clever person you have ever met..... 
  
  Pretty impressive hey?    heh heh huh hehhh..... Huh?   Hey???
  

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 09, 2009....

  MN: I heard a man speaking on the radio once about how women tend to view cyber-relationships as cheating whereas men don't (so long as there hasn't been any real life meeting or sex happening with the person).  Men supposedly didn't care much unless there was actually a physical interaction. It made a lot of sense when I thought about it, but now I'm not so sure.
  
  
  And what about cyber-sex (which I would define as...well...overt masturbation with the help of some cyber-companionship)? I guess I've drawn that as some sort of line in the sand--that it would be going too far and constitute cheating...sort of...though not quite as bad as the physical kind, and probably not quite as hard to get over.
  
  
  Thoughts anyone?
  
  

• PieterOpie said on Apr 09, 2009....

  I think if you are pointing your moist "pink bits" at a web-cam while you are vigorously rubbing them in a "stimulating" way and then one of you (or both) discharge bodily fluids which are proudly displayed to the other party via that same web-cam, and everyone concerned gasps for breath for a few minutes while smoking a cigarette, then that to me is having some sort of interlude that goes beyond friendly chatter.  Sometimes that is more than some married people get.
  
  My thoughts.   
  

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 10, 2009....

  You ARE witty and hilarious. That much is undeniable. But seriously, wipe that gunk off your monitor. (It's obscuring your Web-cam.)
  
  
  And thanks for the quick response--your thoughts, I mean.

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 10, 2009....

  MIx--at the risk of being completley wrong, I'd say "earth girl" is probably the way to go.
  Have you asked your cyber-flame about her own real-life attachments? Is there any chance she's dating around? If not, you should probably let her know that you're trying to find RL love, which includes dating an RL woman or two until love finds you.
  
  
  Love online is probably illusory, but that doesn't necessarily make it less real. Still, I suppose you have to decide whether it's a warm, snuggly body you're looking for or something that's always just a little beyond your grasp...at least until you meet up with your cyber-someone face-to-face.
  
  
  [Sorry that this advice is a few months after the fact.]

• PieterOpie said on Apr 10, 2009....

  Misty (for me) said:  "...wipe that gunk off your monitor. (It's obscuring your Web-cam.)"
  
  Luckily I do not actually have a web-cam.... lucky for everybody else that is.... and if I were capable of reaching my screen with my "gunk" I would be delighted if not a little disgusted with myself.  A mixed blessing as it were...  
  
  
  "And thanks for the quick response..."   
  
  hehe... yes, sorry about that.  It's been a while and I was highly excited....  <blush>
  

• satanx said on Apr 11, 2009....

          [[ CYBER DADDY ]]

  YOU MUST ALL BE MY CYBER TROLLS

       [[[ MY DOMAIN ]]]

   

                     {{{ ENTER HERE }}}

• Misty_Eyed said on Apr 13, 2009....

  Steering clear of your many portals, Satanx.
  
  
  It would have been so much more interesting to find out that you were actually Carl Dobbes incognito. (No eh...hem offense to either party.)

• mixednuts said on Apr 17, 2009....

  FUCK SATANX!

• PieterOpie said on Apr 17, 2009....

  No thank you. 
  
  
  

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