• Twylarants said on Feb 18, 2009....

  EXCUSE ME?
  You mean that I couldn't be a witness in a murder trial even if I saw the murderer committing the murder?
  

• kruuyai said on Feb 18, 2009....

  Are you kidding me?  That can't be constitutional!  You know, we are so fast to point our fingers at the Muslim world, but here in Turkey, where 99% of the population is Muslim, they take separation of church and state a whole lot more seriously than we do (even if the current prime minister is a religious fundamentalist doofus that nobody seems to like).  In fact, women who work in public places like schools and government offices are not even allowed to cover their heads once they enter the workplace... that's how much they don't want people to practice their religion in government controlled operations.  I think the majority of Turks still support this.

• Twylarants said on Feb 18, 2009....

  Is it because this Richard Carroll believes that everyone who raises their hand and swears on the bible to tell the whole truth, ect, really tells the truth?  Everyone?
  Well, of course he does!  Who would swear to God and then lie?  Gee, no one I know of.
  Idiot.
  I would put my hand on the bible just like a believer would, and I would tell the truth.  I would never perjure myself.  I may not believe in heaven but I'm pretty sure jail is real.
  

• silverwhisper said on Feb 18, 2009....

  i'm sure some insane apologist will come along to explain why this is perfectly acceptable, and by so doing, demonstrate conclusively that he or she is a complete and utter moron. :>
  
  ed

• Twylarants said on Feb 18, 2009....

  Good grief! Why are some people so afraid of atheists? We're not all Madeline Murray O'hare (whatever) or that guy who doesn't want the presidential oath to be taken using a bible.  Being an atheist doesn't mean I believe in something else besides God, it simply means I have no beliefs at all...that's all.  Who cares if I have to pledge allegiance to one nation under God?  I do it...what's the big deal? You can pray in school if you want, I don't care.  I have money in my wallet that has the word "God" on it....it spends the same as if it didn't say God.
  Jeez.
  

• sheltercrow said on Feb 18, 2009....

  And Article 19, section 2, of the AC says...
  
  Article 19. Miscellaneous Provisions.
  
  § 2. Dueling.
  
  No person who may hereafter fight a duel, assist in the same as second, or send, accept, or knowingly carry a challenge therefor, shall hold any office in the State, for a period of ten years; and may be otherwise punished as the law may prescribe. 

• bloc said on Feb 18, 2009....

  Just to put the cherry on top, arkansas recently passed a law allowing guns in church. LOL

• D6fer said on Feb 18, 2009....

  I have heard that there are many old laws still on the books in many states.

• bloc said on Feb 19, 2009....

  @d6
  this is true, but sadly arkansas failed at repealing this one very recently!!!
  

• silverwhisper said on Feb 19, 2009....

  what's the saying? "full of fail"? :>
  
  ed

• bloc said on Feb 19, 2009....

  new rule. I'm deleting comments that stand out if they aren't directly related to the post or the conversation that followed. By "stand out" I mean images, videos, all caps, bold, giant fonts, etc.
  
  
  

• PieterOpie said on Feb 19, 2009....

  I see it as my duty and my pleasure to judge America.  I have been doing it for a long time and for the very reasons outlined in the first opening post.  It's like going to Disneyland.... there are hours and hours of fun and entertainment to get through.  You do make it easy though... by providing a veritable smorgasbord of things to judge. I think I'm going to be very happy in this thread......  Thank you Bloc... thank you sooooo much.  Not that I needed encouragement, but now you actually sort of asked for it....hehe hehe .....haha haha ha ha HEHE HAHAHA HHAAAA HAAARRR HA HAHA HA  HAHAHA!!!!!    WEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

• sheltercrow said on Feb 19, 2009....

  Panzy.

• PieterOpie said on Feb 19, 2009....

  OUCH!!!!      :-((
  
  
  
  

• PieterOpie said on Feb 20, 2009....

  I can't do it.  There are too many people here that I like.  Besides, after the brutality of that "panzy" remark I am completely disarmed.  
  
  I need to recover........  
  

• kelly said on Feb 21, 2009....

  Completely mind boggling.  I guess if you're going to have an imaginary friend you should pick the same imaginary friend as everyone else.  It's a career move.

• andora said on Feb 21, 2009....

  hi bloc,
  
  I am - and have - spent my life looking behind the curtain of the wizard of oz (American Mentality) and I can safely say that it has not been a good career move
  
  Jerry Falwell showed millions how to fall well
  
  they pushed back upon freedom of speech and demonized even their own children. as soon as this trend landed upon the mainstream I started to buy tools of survival cus I could see the writing on the wall. In many ways, I felt as though the guilt that was poured liberally upon the masses contributed to the incredible depth of perversion that we suffer from as a group. When hypocrites claim to speak on behalf of God, then they create a whole class of people that push back by acting out.
  
  then this moral majority makes vice illegal, pushing it into an underground blackmarket that gobbles their children into the underbelly of the beast. the beast that the moral majority created. now they get to be 'right'. and that is what gets them high after all
  
  anyway after a lifetime of pointing out the hypocrisy of my families gov and church, I have eliminated most liars from my life. my children are learning how to be honest because they want me in their life. so all those liars that call themselves moral can find out through their own children if they are walking their talk or just parroting the propaganda that is a good career move after all. thanks for the chuckle kelly
  

• bloc said on Feb 22, 2009....

  hey andora, I'm thinking these people will be pushed back to the fringes in the coming years.

• stopmediabias said on Feb 24, 2009....

  http://www.surprisinger.com/2009/02/q-is-it-really-illegal-for-atheists-to.html

  This blogger had an interesting take on this.  It was mostly a symbolic gesture meant to show that we need to clean out a lot of our ridiculous and outdated laws.

  And of course the sad sad reality for you sorry atheists is if any atheist tried to run for high public office on an atheist ticket they would be laughed right out of the running.

• bloc said on Feb 25, 2009....

  Wow, this highlights the extreme nature of smb. He's now defending a law on the books that attacks people with certain religious beliefs.

• silverwhisper said on Feb 25, 2009....

  no, he's defending a law that attacks people who don't share his belief.
  
  i think it would be funny for smb and stupidgenius to have a debate.
  
  ed

• stopmediabias said on Feb 25, 2009....

  Are you guys reading this right?  I think you got me wrong here.
   
  AMENDING THE ARKANSAS CONSTITUTION TO REPEAL THE PROHIBITION AGAINST AN ATHEIST HOLDING ANY OFFICE IN THE CIVIL DEPARTMENTS OF THE STATE OF ARKANSAS OR TESTIFYING AS A WITNESS IN ANY COURT.
  In other words this rep was pointing out that we have a lot of stupid laws on our books.  I don't agree with the law and none of it matters because the Supreme court made it unconstitutional.
   
  And I didn't say I agree with the fact that atheists would get laughed out if they tried to run for office, I was just pointing out the reality. 
   

• andora said on Feb 25, 2009....

  right now, God's 'chosen people' that preach the gospel of Christ are looking waaaayyyy more clownish as they hawk war in the name of Jesus. I'm laughing them right out onto the fringes of lunacy.
  btw,
  lunacy is getting organized in the US as the Neo-Nazi's and they are connected coast to coast. These extremes only get more freaky in times of national crisis...in essence, latino's, blacks, jews and asians are having to leave parts of the Southern US...these folks (nazi's) are amassing at the border to take on the border war that is blossoming with Mexico.
  
  I am so very relieved that there is a President in the United States that has 'emotional intelligence', in other words he has a heart. is capable of speaking from his heart and is satisfying the yearning of people around the world for talk that is rational, instead of an escalating cartoon of battling opposites!
  
  after 8 years of crying and cringing during presidential addresses, i had a moment of extreme gratitude yesterday. my partner and i had tears of joy and feelings of indescribable relief.
  
  and
  
  I am absolutely giddy that i get to witness the GOP eat itself on screen as they screamingly splutter their way to disappear from the radar.
  
  Obama has essentially attained bi-partisan support without the consent of the GOP. His national approval rating jumped from 71% to 88% - this is big news....after witnessing a veritable 50-50 split in this country for decades there is now a substantial majority that agree's with Obama. This is the real meaning of bi-partisanship because he has successfully eliminated the civil war style split that the populace was in gridlock about. when Obama said he would change the nature of the conversation, I believed him and decided to vote for him instead of Ron Paul. in my not so humble opinion, Obama has lived up to this promise in rapid order.
  
  gloating feels so fricking great!
  

• stopmediabias said on Feb 26, 2009....

  Bloc-See, now If I came out with such incredible nonsense like Andora you would be on me like a monkey on a cupcake.  What's the deal?

• andora said on Feb 26, 2009....

  incredible nonsense?
  
  gotta love the truth - EVEN Rupert Murdoch likes Obama
  
  go figure ;}
  

• stopmediabias said on Feb 26, 2009....

  "These extremes only get more freaky in times of national crisis...in essence, latino's, blacks, jews and asians are having to leave parts of the Southern US...these folks (nazi's) are amassing at the border to take on the border war that is blossoming with Mexico."
   
  What?  I hope you have a source to back this up.
   
  President Obama's approval rating?  It took me five seconds to find this CNN story:
  
  http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/02/20/obama-approval-rating-drops-but-still-high/
   
  A quote:
   
  "Obama's approval rating stands at 67 percent in the new poll. That's down 9 points from the most recent previous CNN poll, which was conducted in early February."
   
  Maybe bloc can answer this, is Andora lieing or is he just stupid and/or ignorant?
   
   
  This one is my favorite though:
   
  "Obama has essentially attained bi-partisan support without the consent of the GOP."
   
  Every Republican in the house voted against the stimulus and only 3 Republicans in the senate voted for it.  What is hilarious is not one single person who voted for this stimulus bill actually read the thing and a number of Democrats voted against it as well.

• javadewd said on Apr 09, 2009....

  So is Obama going to call up the Somalians today and apologize for our American arrogance? Maybe he should wait until they execute an American national or two (who also happen to be Kenyan)...
  
  Face it, if it were Bush in charge he would say, "You tell those fuckers with the laundry on their head that today is wash day and we're bringing the Maytag!" And that is why I will never, ever, say a bad word about the man. Sure, he's made a few mistakes, but he doesn't deserve the disrespect he got from liberals and in fact, Obama deserves the same treatment, we conservatives are simply content giving him enough rope to hang his own stupid ass. Why get in his way? Where's the popcorn??
  

• kelly said on Apr 09, 2009....

  "Sure, he's made a few mistakes..."
  
  
  Excuse me?  A few mistakes?  That miserable prick should have been drawn and quartered on the Whitehouse lawn, along with Cheney and Rove.  But they got away with it.  Those "few mistakes" you're talking about are thousands of lives and precious Constitutional freedoms that were wasted.
  
  
  And now we're going to keep paying the price of the Bush administration's stupidity and arrogance.  Obama is NOT rolling back the abusive and dangerous secret laws that Bush put into effect.  Now it's law that no one can sue the government for illegal wiretaps and spying on Americans.  That's right.  If the government does anything illegal it's just too bad.  Before any of you idiot die-hard Republicans use this as ammo against Obama just remember what dolt put those laws into effect in the first place.
  
  
  You wanted permanent government totalitarianism?  You got it.

• javadewd said on Apr 10, 2009....

  Kelly, you are a traitor to your country. The fucking terrorists killed over 3,000 AMERICANS on 9/11 before we did the RIGHT THING and STOMPED A MUDHOLE in the ASS of those FUCKING TOWEL HEADS. That's not even counting the USS Cole, which Clinton turned a total fucking blind eye! Obama has apologized for our arrogance, but those towel-headed fuckers are "terrorists to the core" and apologize for absolutely nothing. They see Obama as the rest of us "die-hard Republicans" do... As a total fucking pussy.
  
  And since you're not being intellectually honest, it was JIMMY FUCKING CARTER who instated the wire-tapping laws that Bush actually used [May 23, 1979 - Executive Order 12139 - Foreign Intelligence Electronic Surveillance] as a basis for his and WILLIAM JEFFERSON FUCKING CLINTON who strengthened Carter's with Executive Order 12949, so go kick yourself in the nuts! All Bush did was allow these laws to be expanded for agents who infiltrated our borders, which by the way has kept this country safe for over seven years since 9/11, and not one (NOT ONE) law-abiding American citizen has been abused by Bush's wire-tapping law.
  
  You have made threatening statements against a president or former president of the United States and that makes you a traitor of this country. The punishment of such action is death. That's right! You're a traitor. Congratulations! Enjoy your freedom of speech while you still have it. Like most bat-shit crazy liberals, you didn't expect any consequences to your actions, did you?
  
  Irresponsible statements, no real plan, spending our childrens and grandchildrens money, bankrupting our beloved country, printing money like it's going out of style, showing no back-bone to those who would rather kill us than look at us. Go libs! Hey, give us another year of this bullshit so we can crush your new monkey boy with a new Republican congress in 2010!!
  
  

• kelly said on Apr 10, 2009....

  "The fucking terrorists killed over 3,000 AMERICANS on 9/11 before we did the RIGHT THING and STOMPED A MUDHOLE in the ASS of those FUCKING TOWEL HEADS."
  
  
  Yeah.  Only we didn't.  Almost all of the terrorists on 9/11 were from Saudi Arabia.  And Iraq had absolutely zero to do with 9/11.
  
  
  Carter may have started FISA, but Bush violated FISA.  There's a difference.  Bush is a traitor and failed to uphold the United States Constitution.
  
  
  "Irresponsible statements, no real plan, spending our childrens and grandchildrens money, bankrupting our beloved country, printing money like it's going out of style..."
  
  
  This all describes the Bush administration perfectly.  What's your problem with a few more years of that?

• javadewd said on Apr 11, 2009....

  Only we did, kelly. We haven't been attacked since. We liberated a country right in the middle of the region and it has left Al Qaeda in a position where at best they can only strike us from mountaintops in Afghanistan. Thanks to Obama, we have reduced our spending in defenses and as he has proven, he can't hold his own militarily against four terrorists in a lifeboat, much less four guys in our airliners. It's just a matter of time before America gets hit again.
  
  Bush didn't violate FISA, he expanded its reach inside our borders like I said before. That was one of the big things that FISA lacked and what had caused the catalyst that ended up being what you and I know as 9/11 -- once the cells entered the country, we had little power to track them, much less back to their handlers overseas.
  
  Bush's administration never printed money. That is the result of hyper-inflation. Think Carter. Soon, think Obama (we're up to how many trillions of dollars now for his hyper-budget?). Bush's administration never spent as out-of-control over his eight years in office as the Obama administration has done in the past two months. Bush's stimulous checks (a small reward for those who actually got their taxes in on time) caused many in this nation to pay in their taxes, increasing available money for the government to spend, which factually kept social security flat instead of it dying like it was under Clinton. Oh, and by the way, nobody gets those stimulous checks this year, because Obama shit-canned that idea back in January. Bush may have had a problem with the English language, but he never bowed before the Saudi prince and then had his press guy lie about it. Even Clinton told congress that he truly believed that Iraq had WMDs.
  
  No, Kelly, I didn't describe the Bush administration at all, but hey, fantasy land for all you bleeding-heart brain-washed bet-wetters seems to be where you want to live, so enjoy the next year or so! Maybe the reason y'all can't smell the coffee is because Pelosi and Reed is pissing in it for ya.
  
  

• kelly said on Apr 11, 2009....

  You are not in possession of even the most basic facts.

• javadewd said on Apr 11, 2009....

  { Cue slow violin music here with sympathetic, whiny, crying voice. }
  
  Oh, sure, it is we arrogant Americans who abused these poor, innocent Islamic extremists and made their countries so poor by buying their countries' oil and pushed our western culture upon them: womens rights, MTV, R-Rated movies and such. We sent our Christian missionaries into their countries to spy on them and make them hate us oh so much. It's totally our fault that they felt the need to kill 3,000 of our fellow Americans on 9/11, and we should blame those people who were in those twin towers, not these poor, poor Muslims who don't have a destructive bone in their bodies and only want peace and love for you and me...
  
  I'm sure that Mahmoud Ahmadinejad speaks from his heart and doesn't speak a single lie when he says that his country has no intention of making a nuclear bomb or wiping Israel off the map or even denying that the holocaust ever happened. I'm sure that Mahmoud loves little puppies and whales and little caucasian children.
  
  Yeah, right. These are what libs consider basic facts... Go sing kumbaya in fantasy land.
  

• kelly said on Apr 12, 2009....

  It looks like the Republican party has been reduced to a bunch of name-callers who can't do anything more than set up straw men to knock down.
  
  
  The semi-official tag line of conservatives used to be that "they see the world the way it is."  It strikes me these days just how far from the truth that statement really is.  What it is, however, is a great example of misdirection and propaganda, something at which I have to admit the Republicans excel.

• javadewd said on Apr 12, 2009....

  And it looks like the Democratic party keeps using the same bad ideas but somehow they think by repackaging them that somehow when they do it that they will work. (see TARP-II -- Worse sequel ever!) If a Democrat ever came up with an original idea that worked (most of the time they don't even have a plan) I'd eat my own words.
  

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