• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  Leashes and Collars? Come on.

• seer said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Do you know what is really fucked up? When girls go for really feeble, pathetic guys because they behave themselvs, and do exactly what they're told.
   
  Like all my friends broke up with their sucessful, cultured, confident, intellegant boyfriends; and got feeble little IT nerds for boyfriends.
   
  What the fucked happend to getting a beefy man? Or someone who knows about wine and food? Why do girls get boyfriends that can't fix cars and don't need to shave or anything!!!!!!

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  No shit. Cheers to that buddy. Both partners have to be equally fragile or kick ass. whichever that way the species doesn't get all luke warmy. It should be illegal for super mondobitches to be with wimpy guys too. I hate seeing that in grocery stores
  

• seer said on Feb 10, 2009....

  :) hahaha

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  Time for a piss and a smoke. I'm far from cultured, but I can piss and smoke at the same time, and damn it that's somethin' for my ma to be proud of.

• Hegemone said on Feb 10, 2009....

  LMAO, pissing and smoking huh?  Have you ever gone for the triumvirate and spoken while you pissed and smoked?  Then you know you're a real champ. 
  
  So far as the submissive stuff ... yeah, I don't get it either, but to each their own.  I just know I'm way too much of a bitch for that to work at all for me ... and I have no want to be the "dominant" half ... I'd be thinking "Just leave me the hell alone!"
  

• numb said on Feb 10, 2009....

  some women go fo meek guys coz of their insecurity.their lack of courage to change the course of life accordin to their wishes gives the women a feel of security dat those dum guys would never leav them! n hence they go fo such guys with much pride!!cant blame the women too coz its in their genes that they long for security n stability..

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  I actually have spoken, but never typed, smoked and pissed. thats just unsanitary.

• Hegemone said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Ew, no way, that would just not be cool to piss while typing and smoking.  Who would set their computer up in a bathroom anyway?  And if you're not pissin' in a bathroom ... what kind of unsanitary slob would you have to be? lol

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  Better to have a nice little guy, with a secure job than a swelled up, out of work, jerk thats always pissed off and half a twitch away from smackin' his old lady around, granted, but you don't have to go to one extreme or the other. It isn't good to enable over pacifism any more than it is alcoholism.

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  I probably shouldn't cop to this but I have driven down the road, talked on the cell phone and taken a leak, all at the same time.

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  One of the luxuries of being a guy you can steer with your knee and pee in a gatorade bottle at the same time.

• godschild said on Feb 10, 2009....

  lol, I have driven down the road while rolling up a joint and then put the visine in afterwards while driving before I got to work... but never while pissing lol...I love a strong woman and have one.

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  Me too. Not the weed, the woman. Liable to woop my ass just for the hell of it. keeps me on my toes.

• godschild said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Lmao, don't do the weed anymore, well ocassionally, but that stuff was back in the day as we used to say...My woman and I are both kinda stubborn so we keep each other on our toes, but know what you mean, they still run things lol

• pusscat said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Well now . . . lemme see. . . I'm a successful woman. . . opinionated. . . strong willed. . . believe that all women should have control of their own lives. . . I have control of my own life, I make decisions everyday that have impact and have effect on others. . . and - oh yeah - did I mention I'm a submissive?. . .
  
  I'm not having a go or anything here, I guess for anyone that doesn't truly understand the lifestyle, it may be hard to grasp.  You see many women fought hard, long and sometimes fatal battles to enable women to have the vote.  To enable women to be able to choose how they live their lives.  to enable women to have the same respect as men in the workforce and in the boardroom.  Well, I for one am glad and I choose to be the submissive of my Dominant. 
  
  I'll give you a little example of the strength of a submissive.  We all know how hard it is to bite our tongues when we believe we are right on a subject that is being discussed.  We all know how we want to just put our spoke right in there and tell someone, "no - that's not the way to do it" or, "that can't possibly be right".  Well I am just like that too only I have to have the strength of mind to stop, think, hold my tongue and think clearly and carefully how i want to put those same phrases to my Dominant in a respectful way.  For my submission I get a lot back in return.  I know I am loved, cared for, protected beyond a shadow of a doubt.  I am given structure which i have always craved in my life.  My Dominant has taught me to love myself once again.  He has taught me to be proud of myself again.  He has given me strength to get through harsh times when I thought I would crumble.  We all have our limits but he enabled me to go beyond them and come out the other side stronger.  We both know we would lay our lives down for each other.  I know there are many couples who would do that without this lifestyle too.  But so many do not have the trust to communicate everything.  Do you think I can be weak and still lay my heart and soul open to another?  How many of us have had the courage to truly tell our partner what we want sexually no matter how bizarre or outrageous?  To trust that our partner will not laugh at us or be disgusted by us?  To tell our partners what our greatest fears are knowing they could be used against us?  i am not meek and mild by anyone's standards lol!  Why, if I said to my dad "I missed my mouth" when spilling a drink his reply was usually along the lines of, "what?  With a mouth that size?!" ha ha!
  
  One of my submissive friends runs her own successful business.  One is a real kick ass lawyer.  Steve Tyler of Aerosmith has been a submissive to his beautiful Domme for years.  I wouldn't quite call him a wallflower now would you?
  
  I will try to answer any questions you may have on being a submissive as best I can.  I'm glad you raised this subject though as it is a good forum for submissives to come along and explain their side of things.
  
  Thanks.  take care
  
  pc
  

• seer said on Feb 10, 2009....

  I wasn't talking about submissive as in Dom and Sub, I was talking about people that let themselvs get pushed around by society.

• one_wired_kitty said on Feb 10, 2009....

  I'm a bitch ... approaching battle-ax. You wanna piece o' this buddy? :p

• seer said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Well there's one girl that isn't submissive lol!

  I just wanted to say sorry I was mis understood pussycat :)

• SpiritualMom said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Well as the hubby (godschild)  has already said I'm NOT submissive but I dont need to be in control either. We both are extremely hard headed and opinionated but we just "agree to disagree" on alot of things.. Religion is one of them! lol
  I didn't have any desire to be with someone that I could control and I damn sure dont intend to ever let anyone control me again so we worked it out.. I hate seeing a woman cower to a man but I think a man cowering to a woman is worse! There are certain things that just really piss you off ya know? Men who allow a woman to walk on them is one of those things with me. I fully believe that if a man hits a woman she has every right to kick the living shit outta him but I also believe that if a woman steps into a mans shoes and hits a man then that man has every right to defend himself! There should be no double standards here. If we have balls enough to perform an action then we should have balls enough to accept the consiquences! 

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  Thank You Pusscat for shedding some light on the subject for me. I was hoping someone with some experience in the matter would join us. I was afraid it was more of a locked in a box at the foot of a bed thing. I admit it kind of creeped me out. Sounds pretty normal now.
  Maybe with established roles it would make some things simpler. Me and my fiance take turns biting our tongues and choosing our words, it sometimes exhausting but I like it. It keeps us sharper, makes it easier to deal with people on the street and we always know that we are both agreed upon the decisions we make. Like I said to each their own.
  I have a question if you don't mind. I'm sure your only submissive to your Dom. So when someone else challenges you do you just want to tear them a new one or what? That has to be some pent up issues.

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  
  Hey SpiritualMom, thanks for getting back to me on that other blog.
  I've never seen a man hit a woman and thought it was funny but every time I see a woman haul off on a man I can't help but bust up. I guess I've never seen a man get hit by a female that didn't deserve it. It would be one thing if she was actually trying to hurt him, I suppose but you have to think every man at some point in his life needs to learn when to give a woman her space. I'm not saying thats easy but some how it always seems to be the guy's fault in those situations.

• SpiritualMom said on Feb 10, 2009....

  lmao yeah there are times when men just need a good smack!! :P But I have seen some women who are violent only because they are allowed to be by their spouses. I know ppl in my family who are this way and it really pisses me off. The only reason that the woman in the relationship does what she does is because her man has been taught that there is no time when hitting a woman is right and so he allows her to abuse him because he feels that he has to. I was just venting about it lol.. I really think he should knock the shit outta her one good time and then she would stop acting that way, better yet I could knock the shit outta her :P
  Actually I have had a run in with her because she thought that she could talk to my hubby the way she talks to hers, needless to say that didnt fly with me! I can say though that after we had our "disagreement" she has NEVER talked to my hubby like that again, actually she acts as if she is scared to talk to him at all! lol
  np hun I always try to reply and I really like getting other ppls opinions on what I write :)

• bigshoulders said on Feb 10, 2009....

  kick ass!

• pusscat said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Hey seer - no problem my friend :-)  I totally agree with you.  When I see people being doormats I just want to take hold of them and shake them.
  
  Hi again bigshoulders - you know that'd be a great profile name for a Dom lol!  Seriously though, I'm glad I helped with a bit of info.  I am on some sites where the subs come out in the hundreds and totally rip the post owner to threads ha ha!  It's so vicious I kid you not and I'm thinking - yup - submissive sure don't mean doormat lol!  It's right what you say.  I am submissive to my Dom but only to him unless in a situation where I am expected by my Dom to be submissive to another.  If I were at a gathering say, with my Sir and another Dom and his sub, the other sub and myself may be expected to be submissive to both Doms.  This is not something that is automatically expected though.  It would be with prior arrangement.  With my Dom i submit totally whereas, at a gathering where there may be other Doms and subs, I would be more respectful I'd say than submissive.  Many subs have different ways of dealing with others i.e. I am quite happy to call another Dom Sir, or call a Domme Ma'am until I am asked otherwise.  Some subs will only use the term Sir or Ma'am to their own Dom/me.
  
  In my everyday life no one in a million years would think i was a sub ha ha!  too opinionated by far.  My opinion counts though with my Sir.  He will often ask me my opinion or advice.  The only difference with us is that the final word is left with my Sir.  If I don't agree occasionally, it is a small price to pay for the wonderful relationship we have. 
  
  When i was younger, i had the most terrible temper and would fly off the handle so easy if anyone riled me up.  Turned out it was bipolar lol!  Got that sorted.  Now, I think it is part of my submissive nature that likes to please and my own personality, I do try to see both sides.  I have often, and am proud to say, actually made some very good close friends by difusing an explosive situation by being calm and tactful.  I'm not always a saint though.  I've lost it a few times in public right here on our dear old Soulcast ha ha!
  

• DaddysLittleSlut said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Hi Bigshoulders,
  I was a submissive too.  But only for one man.  A strong man.  A man who showed me His strength was tempered with love and patience.  I submitted to Him only because of my great respect for Him.  I am in a relationship now that is based more on equal partnership, equal decisions and that's fine too.  I'm perfectly capable.
  It was just cool to have had someone who's shoulders were broad enough to bear the responsibilities for my sexual and emotional well being for a while.  In return, i did my best to fulfill his sexual and emotional needs as well. It was fun.
  Submissive..yes.  Weak..no. 
  

• pleasantskies said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Submissive, it has different meanings for different people. Nobody has the same experience in life because we are all unique individuals. As a whole, I disagree with your view of submissive women. Some personalities may appear to be submissive when it may not be the case at all. Some who are outgoing and take the bull by it's horn or balls or whatever, they may not be as confident as they appear. Whatever someone is putting off for the world to see, go deeper, you might just be surprised at what you see.

• D6fer said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Hey....I don't smoke....is there anything that I can do while pissing that scores as high as smoking? ;p

• pusscat said on Feb 10, 2009....

  Hey D6 - how's it hanging :-)
  
  You could try doing the hoola-hoop . . . ooh - imagine the pretty patterns you could make in the snow ;-)
  

• human_stain said on Feb 11, 2009....

  seer, when you say that your friends broke up with their sucessful, cultured, confident, intellegant boyfriends; and got feeble little IT nerds for boyfriends, i think they don't want to be challanged. And that's why they prefer someone whom they can controll more easily and don't get questioned.
  

• MissDrusilla said on Feb 11, 2009....

  "Maybe I'm getting the wrong idea about what submissive means in terms of a fetish."
  
  Maybe you are.
  
  Looks like it's been cleared up for you.
  
  Cheers pc and co xx
  
  

• bigshoulders said on Feb 11, 2009....

  
  Thank all of you for your input. I do have a much better understanding of the term now.
  
  Yeah d6er hoola hoop or jumping jacks would blow my trick out of the water.

• D6fer said on Feb 11, 2009....

  hmmmm....never could do the hoola hoop.....I don't have much of an ass......I might piss on myself if I do jumping jacks......how about if i blow bubbles?.....that's kinda like smoking.

• Sir. said on Mar 29, 2009....

  you could whistle and piss...
  
  

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