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So if abortion was made illegal, what should be done to the women who have illegal abortions?
 
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  • Fallyn said on Jan 21, 2009....
    well, i believe that abortions should be legal.
    i would encourage anyone to watch the movie "if these walls could talk"
  • Fallyn said on Jan 21, 2009....
    "citizen ruth" is another good movie exploring the issues of abortion.
  • ALIENated said on Jan 21, 2009....
    
    The problem is not that it should be illegal. It should be a last resort. 
    
    Sorry, my answer went so long, I did a post about this.
    
    
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 22, 2009....

    For the life of me I wish I could honestly understand this.  "How to stump an anti-abortionists."  You guys use this similar to:  "How to stump anti-socialized medicine" or "How to stump anti-immigrationists"

    Isn't being anti-abortion a good thing?  Outside of all religions and all this pro-choice garbage abortion is a bad thing and even hardcore pro-choicers claim this all the time.  Do you guys want something that supposedly solves one problem then creates a whole series of other problems that are far worse? 

    You've opened an interesting can of worms because what about the Lacy Peterson law? 

    To answer question, NO!  We as a society should ban together and find a real solution to the problem of un-wanted pregnancy.  Instead we subject our woman who are probably in the worst situations imaginable to a barbaric procedure that is going to kill something inside of them.  They can fall prey to unscrupulous doctors and clinics because there is almost always a degree of secrecy, and worst of all they have to do it alone.  We can do better than this.

  • uniquely-ironic said on Jan 22, 2009....
    well, I'm a fan of legal abortions despite the abuses of it, so if it were made illegal and someone was caught having one I'd fine them $100 and call it a day.
  • Expendable said on Jan 22, 2009....

    Fallyn - I believe it should stay legal too.

    Alienated - who said it isn't?

    Stopmediabias - I agree, we as a society should come together to solve this - but instead we resort to scare tactics and forcing limits on other people's choices.

    Uniquely-ironic - you're the only one who answered the question. Thank you. But just a $100 fine?

  • uniquely-ironic said on Jan 22, 2009....
    mostly as a gesture that it would be breaking a law since I personally feel it would be a stupid law.  In fact, the father of the said aborted child should have to pay a fine too.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 22, 2009....
    Aren't we putting limits on peoples choices by making cigarettes illegal?  Tattoos, piercings, alcohol and drugs?  A 17 year old girl in some states cannot legally get all of the above but can get an abortion, is there something wrong here?
  • uniquely-ironic said on Jan 22, 2009....
    stop - you have to weigh the possible harm done by prohibiting each.  And, it's apples to oranges.  What happens to you and your body is much different than being able to buy things we know for sure will likely cause harm to it.
  • Fallyn said on Jan 22, 2009....
    i think abortion should be a last resort.......definitely a very last resort.....however i believe it should remain legal. I don't believe abortions are "good" things.......but sometimes necessary.
  • Expendable said on Jan 22, 2009....
    I found this list of various states' fetal homicide laws. Should abortion ever become illegal, these would be the penalties, including life imprisonment.
  • auroralost said on Jan 22, 2009....
    Ok, what I am going to answer to this is going to seem extreme to some.  I think IF abortion ever became illegal again, then the punishment or sentence should be that similar to manslaughter.  If the law were to be that it is indeed murder, than it should be treated as such. 
     
    I am pro choice.   I am not anti abortion in any way, shape or form and I hope we never see the day where we move backwards on this issue.  I disagree with the idea that it is killing something inside the woman.  This issue is entirely religion based.  It is your beliefs that determine where you stand on when it is life and at what point it has a soul.............or for that matter if there are souls at all.   I apologize for getting of topic there...........just my two cents.
  • hotaka said on Jan 22, 2009....
    I can't watch the video because there's no sound here but I love the valley girl logic in the dialogue written below. That's not an arguement. "She should be punished. She shouldn't be punished. It's between her and God. Abortion is murder. She should be punished." Repeat indefinitely.

    While I would never request or demand that someone have an abortion I don't want to control people's lives. It's a dicy subject, I know. But I say you do what you think is right and if God really is against it then we'll all get our just deserts eventually. Excellent topic, by the way. A new twist on an old debate.
  • D6fer said on Jan 22, 2009....
    I doubt that abortion will ever be illegal, so I think the energy should be focused on a few things....1st of all make publicly funded abortion a thing of the past....that should be illegal......why should someone who objects to abortion be forced to pay for them?
    2nd.....women faced with the decision of having an abortion should have equal time counseling from pro choice and anti abortion advocates prior to the proceedure.
    3rd....The adoption process needs to be fixed to make adoption more affordable and much faster......many people can afford to raise a child, but may not have the funds to pay such a hefty fee up front.
    4th.....we need to return to a better moral public standard......quit broadcasting sex 24 hours a day on public airwaves.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 23, 2009....

    Exp-most of the laws you quoted are specifically point at cases where a pregnant woman is attacked.

    There is a major contradiction here in a lot of these laws.  Technically they make it a crime to kill the unborn but specifically say it doesn't apply to abortion.

  • Expendable said on Jan 23, 2009....

    Stop, you're refusing to look at the reality. Should abortion become illegal, then all those abortion exceptions go away except for where allowance is made for doctors performing a medically necessary procedure. Otherwise why are those exceptions even there?

    Without those exceptions, there's no reason at all why woman would not be charged. So a pregnant woman seeking an abortion would fall under the fetal homicide laws of the state she's in.

  • GrapeKoolaid said on Jan 23, 2009....
    If abortion was made illegal, the violators of the law should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. 

    To go through the procedure requires motive, premeditation, planning, execution.  It's murder in the first degree.  Same should apply to the back-alley surgeon who performed this procedure. 

    Not to worry, though.  Murderers and rapists on average serve less time than drug dealers (I read somewhere an average of 7 years?).  Also, when your state gov't is in a credit crunch (like it is now), they'll just release a bunch of people early to save money and women convicted of infanticide is sure to be on the top of that list. 

    This is by no means how I feel about the subject.  Just answering your question is all. 

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