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do not read this unless you are prepared for me to tarnish the good girl next door image that you have of me...wait...who am i kidding?!
 
i am not anti-gay. i have friends and family that are gay.  i just don't want to be gay.  after friday night though........
 
friday night i went to a dinner party at a friend's house.  there was 5 of us. (2 couples and me.)  dinner was excellent then we chilled out and watched star wars clone wars (yep, we're dorks) had some beers, played some cards and everything was pretty laid back...until....they brought out the Jagermeister (for the record...jagermeister is now dead to me) 
 
 so...one minute everything is chill and the next minute the jagermeister monster shows up and i'm making out with a girl. i'm not going to give the play by play details, but this wasn't just kissing. it gets worse...i'm not the only one who made out with her. my friend and i took turns making out with her.
 
where were the guys you might ask?
 
well, the girl that we were making out with...her husband (yes, i said husband) went up to bed earlier in the evening. and my friend's boyfriend "j" was just trying to go to bed and we kicked him out of his room (or so i'm told)
 
am i horrified? YES.  am i afraid that i might be gay? YES. am i afraid that i might be bisexual and just never knew it? YES.  am i terrified that i'm going to have to cut my hair short and wear cargo pants? YES.


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  • diabolicdame said on Jan 11, 2009....
    Wow.. I got two questions for you.. 1) What is jagermeister?, 2)Was it good?  :-P
  • uniquely-ironic said on Jan 11, 2009....
    bwa ha ha ha!  Bi-curious under the influence of Jaggermeister!!!  blame the drugs, file it away under things to not do again.
  • fragglesrock said on Jan 11, 2009....

    hey dd! - jagermeister is an alcohol it's really potent crap. you drink it as a shot.  was WHAT good? lol. the jagermeister...oh yes jagermeister is always good ;)

  • fragglesrock said on Jan 11, 2009....
    uni - you think so? you think it's ok for me to still wear pink and like boys?
  • Lucytorial said on Jan 11, 2009....
    BWAAA HA HA HA HA HA you crack me up.
     
    Honey, I was with girls before I met my husband, I have no problem with being with girls, I prefer boys though, their bits fit better.  *grin*
     
    Relax, we all do it, you're just a late bloomer.  So was it good?
  • diabolicdame said on Jan 11, 2009....
    Lol.. oh that explains it!! Well as long as its good.. its all good!!   :-D
  • fragglesrock said on Jan 11, 2009....
    lucy - ****fraggles breathing sigh of relief****  i really was/am worried about this. so glad you came forward to share and calm me down...your a dear...and...i think i'm gonna have to plead the fifth on your question.
  • Lucytorial said on Jan 11, 2009....
    Why? its not like its taboo or anything.
     
    Sometimes exploring ourselves can be rather fun don't you think?
     
    BWAA HA HA HAA stop fretting, its no biggy, its just a bit of fun is all, unless you start getting urges to get tats, shave yoru head and go comando alot, without shaving!
  • BEWELL said on Jan 11, 2009....
    A large number of people are Bi-curious and this is normal according to Master and Johnson .   In college I did some reseach and found that 41% of  females with three or more years of college had some girl on girl action.   34% of males has also same sex action.   Most of these people are not gay and again just want to try it.   A few times does not make you gay but if you chose the same sex over the other then you are gay.  Don't worry if you enjoy it after all it is human touch that you may have wanted!!
  • bluegum said on Jan 11, 2009....
    boys machinery just dont do nuthing for me,but the girly hills, valley,peaks,forests will always be joyful playgrounds. fraggles you sure are a live wire lol. blue.
  • fragglesrock said on Jan 11, 2009....

    lucy - no it's not "taboo" it's just not something that i have really ever had a converstion about...lol

    bewell - what a very informed and nice response :) i was afraid everyone was going point, laugh, and throw stones at me....thanks!

    blue - hello! i like the description you give of the female form..lol.  live wire? me? nah...i'm just a girl ;)

  • Hegemone said on Jan 12, 2009....
    Frag, no pointing and laughing here ... but I do know, all to well, the Jager can bring about unwanted actions, given enough consumption.  I wouldn't be afraid or anything, as Lucy mentioned, you were just experimenting, whether you realized it or not.  Probably had some to do with just wanting some human contact and you were inebriated enough not to worry about what gender it was coming from.  Also, it's not like you're the only one who did it.  Just your body's way of dispelling some of your subconcious curiousities. 

    Believe me, I was freaked out after one night that I had a pretty adult dream about me and another female (no specific person though, so it was really weird) ... I was thoroughly confused.  I've never told anybody it either for fear of the pointing and laughing, or the weird uncomfortable looks.  I've gotten over it and chalked it up to me being subconciously curious about it, even though I've never had the thought 'I want to try it just once to see what it's like.'  Don't worry over it.
  • queenparanoia said on Jan 12, 2009....
    dude it's normal.... ;-) lol...
  • one_wired_kitty said on Jan 12, 2009....

    friend of mine (female) is bi ... still wears pink and all that crap ... gayness doesn't (always) mean the butch hair cut, cargo pants and flannel shirts. hehehe

  • telefanatic said on Jan 12, 2009....
    I don't think there's a "gay" look today. Someone that looks straight and could surprise you and be bi. Me, for example.
  • cuppajava said on Jan 12, 2009....
    *** CJ enters the room in his favourite Katie Perry out fit ***
    ....i kissed a girl and i ..... - i think i am going to have to come back to this one a little later Fraggles,sorry - i am not against what happened as i know that it is only maybe a natural reaction to an outside stimulant - ie lots of beer - but have you really sat down and thought about what happened.What does the other lady in question think? or are you both putting it down to experience?
  • hotaka said on Jan 12, 2009....
    Is there a video on YouTube?

    I hope I am never in that kind of situation if it's with two other guys. And if it was with two other girls I hope my wife you buy good jagermeister as a kiss ass excuse for getting it on with two other women.

    But she would probably kill me right away.
  • 007Hardone said on Jan 12, 2009....
    fragglesrock, I remember your quote 'live wire? me? nah...i'm just a girl ;)" My Dear, you sound perfectly normal to me,,,, 'n let the party go on,
  • PieterOpie said on Jan 12, 2009....
    I am gay and somehow I hope you are not.   

    There is enough confusion in the world......
  • fragglesrock said on Jan 12, 2009....

    hege - thanks for not pointing or laughing...and thanks for sharing :)

    qp - thanks :)

    wired - well, that's a relief ... lol :)

    tele - thanks for reading and commenting :) i meant no offense!

    cj - if you take off the ladies clothes i'll answer your questions ;)

    hot - it's such a double standard in society isn't it?! lol :)

    007 - thanks for reading and commenting...i like your comment...let the party go on :) thanks!!!

    pieter - please know that i meant no offense. i understand your stance...i would probably give a bad name to being gay ;)

     

  • starchini said on Jan 12, 2009....
    eh, no big deal...I cant count on my hands the amount of chics ive made out with + some.  Im not gay or bisexual.  I consider it good'ol fashion fun.  It doesnt mean anything.  I mostly did it because i couldnt think of a reason not to.  I very much have the "what the hell, why not?" attitude. 
  • BEWELL said on Jan 12, 2009....
    Hey if I was a woman I think I would make out with woman.  Mens bodies are just not nice,   the curves and place a women have are sooooo nice!
  • GrapeKoolaid said on Jan 12, 2009....
    So...  Who won the scissor fight? 

    Don't keep me in suspense like this!!! 
  • PieterOpie said on Jan 12, 2009....
    I'm not offended at all.  I am bewildered and bemused.  As for giving us a bad name...  If you don't mind we are perfectly capable thank you....  We'll manage just fine. I have seen what we get up to.....  "and loving it"...
    But you know, drop in any time and visit.  You can always go home again. Plenty of perfectly respectable men do.  hehe
  • kitty_kat said on Jan 12, 2009....
    lol, this made me laugh, although it likely shouldnt've done, sorry fraggles. Years ago when i was married the first time round (in a D/s relationship) i allowed another woman into a scene with me and my ex (at his request), she didn't take a very big active part but it was still fun. It's not something i have really even thought about since or would want to do again but life without risk or experiment is no life at all, right? This incident really, really does not make you gay, it makes you just not afraid of experimenting, that's all (jager, or no jager). Don't fret, it seems like you had some fun!
     
    hugs
    kk
  • kitty_kat said on Jan 12, 2009....
    CJ's comment reminded me of this song, lol xx
     
  • MoretoLife said on Jan 12, 2009....
    fraggles,
    this does NOT and I repeat NOT mean that you are gay. It happens between two straight girls all the time. I have not personally been in the situation but constantly you hear of girls making out with other girls. Don't stress over it.
  • mixednuts said on Jan 12, 2009....

    Two guys doing the do is sick and twisted! {swallow}

    Two women is ......well.....hmmmm.

    Don't let booze push you into something you'll be sorry about later.

    Sex without love is just that.

    THINK FIRST.

  • cuppajava said on Jan 12, 2009....
    HI Fraggles - I was not trying to point a finger at you in the slightest.But looking at your reply let me ask you this;If you saw a cute guy and a cute girl next to each other - which one would you go for -and no,both isnt the right answer.
    Why should it make a difference whether the girl has clothes on or not.Did the girl in your case,flirt with you,or force you into doing it for fun?
    Now the trick question - did you feel guilty about doing it when you sobered up?


  • fragglesrock said on Jan 12, 2009....

    star!!! hi!!! your comment made my day :) thank you!

    bewell - that is so awesome for you to say that...thank you :)

    grape - scissor fight?! omg. NO! it wasn't like THAT!!!!!

    pieter - bewildered and bemused...i tend to have that effect on people ;)

    kitty kat - no it's fine that it made you laugh!!! i really appreciate your comment and hugs...and the song...lol :)

    moretolife - thanks for reading and commenting :)  i appreciate you reassuring me not to stress!!!

    mixed - hi! good to see you on my blog :)  i respect what you're saying. the think first and not doing something you'll regret later... it's very true. thanks :)

    cj - oh i didn't think you were pointing at me at all! if i saw a cute guy and girl together i would go for the guy. always.  i admire other women's beauty...but in a "wish i had those legs/butt/etc" way. not in a "i wanna shag the shit out of them" way.  nobody forced me into it. i decided in the moment to do it. maybe a bit of the what the hell/ haven't done this before...factor??? she initiated. very much initiated. and in answer to your trick question...i felt horrified. then guilty. then shrugged my shoulders and moved on. and what i meant in my comment...when i said take off the ladies clothes...i meant that towards you...to take off the katie perry outfit....<giggle>

  • thunderpussy said on Jan 12, 2009....
    that was so drunkin gay! did you go down?
  • satanx said on Jan 12, 2009....
    WOMAN!!!!!!!! YOU ARE GAY NOW
    AND  FOREVER!
    You crave the taste of a woman in your mouth.
    SAY IT!
    I CRAVE WOMEN IN MY MOUTH DAILY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
     
    so it sall be forever more from this moment on.
     
    Girl eater be thy name
  • hugecock! said on Jan 12, 2009....
    and I wanted to go down on you so much! Can't you at least be a little bi?
  • hunta_boyce_chandler said on Jan 12, 2009....
    You may be bi, but gay is all up to you at this point. Don't sweat it though. Are you worried about your bi-ness?
  • RollingC said on Jan 12, 2009....
    People do funny things under the influence of alcohol.  I wouldn't point a finger at you anyway but Cuppa has got something there that should tell you how to do for future reference in how did you feel about it when you sobered up?
    For some reason I don't mind seeing two girls making out but watching two guys kiss makes me hurl.....and I got gays in my family tree. 
    Funny that dad had one gay child with his first marriage and another gay child with his second marriage.  I wonder what the proportion for gayness is in our society or in the human being for that matter.
    Other than that I'll go with what Hotaka said about having a video of that incident in youtube.....tell us when you post it please....  :^)  ( LOL )
    Rc
  • BON_SCOTT said on Jan 12, 2009....

    Rolling has a point!

    Do you have gay women in your family?

    You might be a gay sister , but not a Mr.

     

  • cuppajava said on Jan 12, 2009....
    ***CJ enters the room in his birthday suit after being requested to take off his Katie Perry outfit*** ................geeeeeez  its cold in here....

    One thing that i meant to mention to you in my PM the other day - (i will continue that story by the way,there's more) is this;
    As the song goes from the Rocky Horror Picture 'dont get strung out by the way i look'
    Everyone has physical attributes that make them who they are,and it creates their character that they possess.Why do woman who have a few extra pounds in the trunk always want to look like the girl with the great ass and the great legs and everything else? why cant they like themselves for who they are.
    As far as i am concerned beauty comes from within  - looks fade over time,people age,they wrinkle and they discover orange peel all over their body.NOw 20 years ago,they were the life of the party with a great ass and great legs,but no brains and they would hump anything to get popular with people.
    But when the looks fade,what have they got besides a head full of fresh air?
    Nothing

    *** CJ waits to put his outfit back on and is sitting in the corner of the room ***
  • GrapeKoolaid said on Jan 12, 2009....
    Fraggles:  I was only joking!!!  It was not meant to be taken seriously.  I was merely being facetious.  :)

    I would like you to consider the following, however:  There is a saying in Latin that goes "In Vino, Veritas", attributed to Pliny the Elder.  It means, "In Wine, (there is) Truth".  Alcohol is often called "liquid courage", too.  While it sometimes makes us say things that we don't want to say, do things we don't want to do, but just as often, it makes us say those things that we really wanted to say, and do things that we really wanted to do.  So which do you think describes your event more closely?  Was it something that you wanted to do?  Or was it something regrettable? 

    Keep in mind that "good" and "bad" are purely subjective, depending on your situated value judgment, or perspective. 

    I'm not putting any value-judgment on what took place.  Like I always say, "it is what it is", you know? 

    If "box lunch" is more of your thing, no need to have any hang-ups over it.  Just get a bib.  :)

    Enjoy the music.  ;)



  • Lucytorial said on Jan 12, 2009....
    Box lunch?? BWAA HAHHAHHAA Can she borrow your bib then Grape? huh?
     
    ROFLMAO
  • Psych-ed said on Jan 12, 2009....
    Fraggles I don't think that makes you gay. I haven't made out with a girl in real life but I did have a dream about making out with Eva Longoria once. I think t's normal :-).
  • cuppajava said on Jan 12, 2009....
    Fraggles - Jagermeister equals Dutch Courage - something that you would not normally find yourself doing ,but allthe ingredients were there and you didnt feellike saying no.Why? way to much alki-hall - thats why.Dont stress about it,and dont beat yourself up about it.Besides new years eve you had a guy licking your face tosay hello and now this? Its only the 12th and it looks like you been a busy girl
  • fragglesrock said on Jan 12, 2009....

    thunder - thanks for reading and commenting

    satan - ditto what i said to thunder :)

    huge - ditto what i said to satan and thunder ... lol

    hunta - hi...nah i'm not worried :) thanks for stopping by!

    rc - there will be no video...lol

    cj - i've never seen rocky horror but i love the music...go ahead and come out of the corner...not sure what looks and all that have to do with this situation? i'm confused!!! <-- obviously ;)

    grape!  box lunch?! really?!  lol! i enjoyed the music....btw...ya know the cherry chapstick part of the song?  well "she" had on skittle chapstick and i woke up with it in my pocket...

    lucy - i don't need a bib! brat! lol :)

    psych-ed - i truly appreciate you sharing and giving me a sane comment!! lol :)

    cj - btw...i have a date with a real live man tomorrow night ;)

  • fragglesrock said on Jan 12, 2009....
    whoops...i missed bon...hey bon...noone that's blood related...that we know of anyway
  • GrapeKoolaid said on Jan 12, 2009....
    In your pocket?!!!  [snickers]

    Sorry...  Your words, not mine.  :P


  • PieterOpie said on Jan 12, 2009....
    To Mixednuts: We all do things we regret sometimes. That's how we learn our lessons in life.  Some lessons should be learned beforehand, such as health issues and that way we won't regret getting into trouble. 
    That being considered how many people sit around thinking about the things they regret?  Not that many - once the lessons are noted.
    However now think of all the things your regret not doing.  Lots of people dwell on the lost opportunities.  They regret the things they didn't do when they had the chance.  That is certainly the case with me.  More often I'd like to go back to do something it didn't and not to undo something. 

    Sure think twice before you do anything that is out of the ordinary but if their is no inherent harm in it then go for it.  You may not get the chance again.

    I am not saying to behave in a irresponsible way.... not at all, but you know; if someone is knocking on the door - open it a little.  You never know who might be there.   Oh..... and if it feels good? It usually is good.   (woohooooo!!)
  • fragglesrock said on Jan 13, 2009....

    grape - ***snickering back at ya***

     @ pieter - wooo hooo!!! very well said! thanks :)

  • PieterOpie said on Jan 13, 2009....
    They don't call me SuperPieter for nothing....  I have to pay them. HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHA HAHAHAHA HAHAHA!!!!!!!!
    yes, I know; it wasn't that funny.  That why they don't call me SuperPieter at all....
  • hotaka said on Jan 13, 2009....
    I'm just repeating what satanx said. I just replace "women" with "my wife".
  • CreativeWoman said on Jan 13, 2009....
    I've not been there nor done that.  Maybe I should drink more.  lol  (Just kidding)  It's never been an appealing thought to me, to be honest.  It's whatever floats your boat though.

    CW
  • Hannah[NBO] said on Jan 13, 2009....
    you know... i think jagermeister brings out the best in everyone... or maybe the worst. it doesn't mean your gay, trust me i've had a couple of those nights and i still wear pink and like boys! =)
  • one_wired_kitty said on Jan 13, 2009....
    Jagermeister brings out something in everyone .... LOL
  • PieterOpie said on Jan 13, 2009....
    Some of my best friends are gay.  The others are miserable!!   hahahaha!!!!
  • sadhappy said on Jan 16, 2009....
    I'm late..fraggs u r so normal! I've always been curious and have wanted to be with a woman but never have..I think I might get some jagg this weekend and hang out with one of my girlfriends;-)!! Lol
  • uncertaingirl said on Jan 16, 2009....
    Come party with me!!!   ;-)
  • fragglesrock said on Jan 16, 2009....

    hot - good man, good man, smart man ! lol!

    cw - it didn't float my boat and won't ever float my boat again..lol :)

    hannah - i really appreciate you stopping and commenting! i also appreciate hearing that you've been there...lol thanks :)

    wired - hello !!!!  yes you are right...i've named my "something" the jager monster but at other times it's brought out tears or vomit...lol :)

    pieter - you can tell your friends to relax, i decided i'm not gay ... lol!!!

    sad - hello!!! hey you'll have to let me know how your weekend goes ;)

     

  • Fallyn said on Jan 21, 2009....
    oh fraggles, *blushing* i think you're normal.....either that or we're both not normal.
    i think it's fun. .....i wouldn't want a girlfriend, but fooling around is fun.
    and look at me....i'm STILL blushing.
  • auroralost said on Feb 09, 2009....
    I know I am late in commenting here but this cracked me up.  My friend always says all girls are only 2 drinks away from some girl on girl action..............just made me think of that and laugh. 
     
    Jagger has gotten the best of me more times than I care to admit to but it always makes for a fun story.
  • Sir. said on Mar 30, 2009....
    Jagger will do that...

    for those casters to whom Jagger is not dead,
    don't mix it with dr.pepper, it's just a bad idea tastes like Dr.pepper unless its 2/3 Jagger.... many a night has been lost to Jagger and Dr.Pepper.
  • UnicornForm said on Jun 19, 2009....
    i went through the same dilema, and after having a gf and reading this and dealing with the girls at my school, i figure im not gay or bi, just straight that loves to have fun, becuase i still like to make out with girls :) so heyyyy fraggles hhahaha just jerking

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