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Excerpts from Gilad Atzmon - Living on Borrowed Time in a Stolen Land by Gilad Atzmon -

Communicating with Israelis may leave one bewildered. Even now when the Israeli Air Force is practicing murder in broad daylight of hundreds of civilians, elderly persons, women and children, the Israeli people manage to convince themselves that they are the real victims in this violent saga.

Those who are familiar intimately with Israeli people realize that they are completely uninformed about the roots of the conflict that dominates their lives. Rather often Israelis manage to come up with some bizarre arguments that may make a lot of sense within the Israeli discourse, yet make no sense whatsoever outside of the Jewish street. Such an argument goes as follows: ‘those Palestinians, why do they insist upon living on our land (Israel), why can’t they just settle in Egypt, Syria, Lebanon or any other Arab country?’ Another Hebraic pearl of wisdom sounds like this: ‘what is wrong with these Palestinians? We gave them water, electricity, education and all they do is try to throw us to the sea’.

Astonishingly enough, the Israelis even within the so-called ‘left’ and even the educated ‘left’ fail to understand who the Palestinians are, where they come from and what they stand for. They fail to grasp that for the Palestinians, Palestine is home.  Miraculously, the Israelis manage to fail to grasp that Israel had been erected at the expense of the Palestinian people, on Palestinian land, on Palestinian villages, towns, fields and orchards. The Israelis do not realize that Palestinians in Gaza and in refugee camps in the region are actually dispossessed people from Ber Shive, Yafo, Tel Kabir, Shekh Munis, Lod, Haifa, Jerusalem and many more towns and villages.  If you wonder how come the Israelis don’t know their history, the answer is pretty simple, they have never been told.  The circumstances that led to the Israeli Palestinian conflict are well hidden within their culture. Traces of pre-1948 Palestinian civilisation on the land had been wiped out.  Not only the Nakba, the 1948 ethnic cleansing of the indigenous Palestinians, is not part of the Israeli curriculum, it is not even mentioned or discussed in any Israeli official or academic forum.

Excerpts from Militarist Dad PROUD of his Natural Born Killer, it fulfils his "Israeliness" by Mary Rizzo

You really have to hand it to the Israelis, especially those who came from some other place first. In an article that romanticizes militarism, they see their participation in war as a fulfillment of their very essence of being. If the same article were written from a “Jihadi”, I wonder what the reaction might be. At any rate, not to tilt the scales of fantasy too far, I would like to simply address the article that Jewish immigrant to “Israel” has written to the Washington Post, and thank Nancy of www.umkahlil.blogpost.com for having brought it to my attention.

And, without further ado, a simple deconstruction of a paper entitled (without a hint of irony, because the author truly believes that War is what makes an Israeli an Israeli and… hey, he is right!)

As My Son Goes To War I Am Fully Israeli At Last

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/02/AR2009010202196.html

By Yossi Klein Halevi

Sunday, January 4, 2009; Page B01

JERUSALEM



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  • andora said on Jan 04, 2009....
    hi shelter

    i went to Israel shortly after the "War with Lebanon" and was able to travel from the North to the South, and the East to the West. I was smuggled past hours of checkpoints on Christmas Eve '06 into Palestinian Bethlehem where I met Palestinians and UN workers on their behalf. I say this to qualify my next statements bc I am not speaking from a point of view that comes strictly from the media.

    Genocide is still happening on Earth as we speak. In the US this was carried out under the guise of 'Manifest Destiny' - this was a Christian call to eliminate the hoards of "Pagan" heathens from the new Christian lands. Israeli's also see themselves as the Chosen People and when they came to Palestine as refugee's of a genocidal maniac, they began to align in ways that alienated the indigenous populations in the same manner Jews were alienated in Europe.

    This battle has circumscribed the globe and subjugated indigenous people - enslaving them to a resource extraction gluttony and debauchery in the name of religion. One of the reasons I hate religion intensely!

    As I traveled Israel, I asked questions of everyone that I met, I listened and watched attitudes of both the Jews and the Muslims as a way of understanding this ancient pattern. What I witnessed in the case of the Jewish populations was an arrogant denial of the past, of the attacks against Muslims that began the hostilities. I witnessed religious bigotry and elitism that is practiced by Jews, Christians and Muslims around the world. I do not believe in violent solutions, but when an occupying force moves into your neighborhood and demonizes you as a type of Pagan that is less than the occupier...what do you do?

    We cannot ask Jews to leave Israel any more than we can ask Palestinians to leave Palestine, yet the lines have been blurred by thousands of years of genocide. As a world waking up to the attrocity's of our past, we seem to be pointing our fingers in every direction as if there is an innocent victim somewhere to be found. yet, as we study the past we come to see that the victim becomes the perpetrator, becomes the victim, becomes the perpetrator, etc...a vicious circle with no end in site!

    I hate what the Jews are doing and I hate what the Palestinians are doing...I hate that this war is being waged in the name of religion, when really the UN sent the Jews to Palestine as a wedge into the Muslim region that has the wealth/oil that we covet. This is why the United States overthrew a democratically elected Iranian leader and put in a tribal warlord dictator (shaw of Iran) - we also overthrew a democratically elected Vietnamese leader and re-instated a Kings son - hence the Vietnamese war. Iraq was invaded for Kurdish oil etc...

    As American's, we need to understand history before we can instate justice, but we, as a people, have become enslaved by 'Manifest Destiny' ourselves and are like deer in the headlights of the coming justice. Sucks to deny corruption just bc you do not wish to take responsibility for this.

    I so appreciate your presence here at soulcast shelter, for many reasons. You continue to report all sides of the conflict, even though the global media has your readers hipnotized to the point of ignoring the truth!

    mahalo for your aloha
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 04, 2009....
    andora:

    "We cannot ask Jews to leave Israel any more than we can ask Palestinians to leave Palestine"

    The vast majority of the Jews in Palestine are not indigenous to the area. They are the Ashkenazim from eastern Europe and western Russia that forcibly colonized and then expelled the original Palestinians. Why do you think there are some 600,000 Palestinian refuges? They just didn't drop in from the sky!

    Read your history! These converted Jews have no rights to Palestine. The Palestinians have more semitic blood then these Ashkenazim Jews. The Palestinians are direct decedents of the original peoples of the Levant and are more Jewish than these murderous, land grabbing, Ashkenazim latter day Jews from Asia.
  • andora said on Jan 04, 2009....
    I didn't say that all the Jews were indigenous to Palestine shelter, if i did i mis-communicated

    i understand that the Palestinians are the indigenous folks in the conflict. was i unclear about this?

    We cannot send a society into the sea

    We cannot give back America to Native Americans

    I'm saying that we need to help both groups have basic neccessities at the expense of all people living in the region

    genocide or mass deportation is not a solution

    otherwise we would ship out all illegal aliens

    we do not kill the illegals for taking over Southern California, Arizona, Texas etc...yet, the Palestinians are killing Israeli's and Palestinians. There are many people of all decendants living in Israel,

    WE CANNOT WAGE JIHAD AGAINST ONE ANOTHER!

    peace
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 04, 2009....
    Let the Internal Court try these Ashkenazim Zionists murderers and thieves! You have to have been living under a rock for 60 years to not know what has and is happening in Palestine!
  • andora said on Jan 05, 2009....
    i learned about the US's covert activities in Vietnam by my American History professor. she always brought evidence of what she was teaching because many of her classes walked out on her bc they were mad that the US has committed attrocity on the scale of Hitler. I'm sure there are many different accounts about what led up to the killing fields of VN, same with the history of the Middle East...I will admit that I am not a historical scholar. What I do know is that Imperialistic Colonialism has butchered the world with warfare and unrestrained resource extraction at everyones expense. hence the mess we are trying to make sense of today!

    I do not want one single child killed anywhere, anytime - I am anti-war, unless someone invades my home. this was done in Palestine to Palestinians, however, they could never organize against colonial giants. Now they are getting slaughtered before our eyes shelter and i share your angst. I want the rockets to stop, I want the racism and bigotry of religion to stop now! I am angry as well about the Chinese paying muslims to kill those in Darfur for the oil that is in these lands. I am angry about what Blood Diamonds have done in the Congo, hell, I'm still angry about the 'Trail of Tears' in Georgia when gold was discovered!

    We do not disagree in this shelter

    I may not know all the details that have contributed to everyone of these horrors that i cite, but i know what is being done in the name of freedom and liberty...its theft and slavery - it nips at my heels every friggin day!
  • andora said on Jan 05, 2009....
    I don't think you have been reading a word i have said, you just need someone to rail at

    I'll be your huckleberry
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 05, 2009....
    Although I seem to be harsh. I am not. Age has hardened me. In times past I was circumspect to a degree so as not to alienate the reader. Those times are gone. Its take no prisoners now. People are being slaughtered openly by these Ashkenazim Zionists by the use of the taxes I pay that rightfully should be used to keep our citizens in their homes.



  • andora said on Jan 06, 2009....
    yesss my friend I became so enraged by the time i was 40 that I moved into the forest...I come out to get so fucking pissed off that I inevitably go back. Now, I live between worlds, but more and more the insanity of the current paradigm comes to find me in Shangralla. Still, it is far superior in the forest, where i am concerned mostly with a garden. The current status quo is actually better than it has ever been in the past...and that's not saying much after all. Broken paradigm is getting examined by our youth at this time...I pray that the insanity does not cause them to lose the will to live

    and

    that instead, the see out of the box and align as one consciousness that refuses war as a solution. I pray that Obama can organize them and re-create our paradigm. Its possible.

    when a teenager in the US came up with a more viable stove for the women of Darfur he became a hero, because now the women did not have to forage very far from their prison encampment for wood, I realized that the world had decided that these refugee's would never beable to return to their ancestral lands...instead, they would be at the mercy of international donations. Nothing will replace the fact that they were forced from their home and raped endlessly, not even a new stove. Nothing will change the fact that children had their arms hacked off by diamond diggers, on and on it goes.

    The quickening is upon us

    it is still ugly after all of this time

    and I pray that the machinery of war gets burried in the sands of Arabia
  • andora said on Jan 06, 2009....
    gawd shelter that was an absolute WORK OF ART!

    i love you

    i fight for blood

    and yesss

    I'll be your huckleberry ;}

    made me laugh

    and am still laughing

    tanks, i needed that!

    aloha

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