• JamesM said on Dec 31, 2008....

  Child and Teen modelling is a heaven sent for many, many children in lower economic societies around the world. As the laws and the viewpoint on children and the media is not really an issue in those countries, often the crime rates that we see against children in America for example rarely happen in many of the countries that these images are produced. The mostly likely outcome of a child or teen modelling website situation today is that the child and that of her impoverished family are profiting greatly from the people that wish to pay American dollars to view the photo galleries available on their models website that is of the model wearing everyday clothing, there is no actual harm done to the models in most cases, yes there is always going to be an exception to the rule but that does not mean every website containing children should be taken down. Online Child Modelling is most certainly a growing industry and appears to have an extremely large fan base from around the world. Child Modelling is NOT porn, Often It contains nothing more than a model having her photos taken in the presence of the parent or guardian and is in most cases only wearing what the parent who is watching allows. This means the overall quality of the work is fairly tasteful. There have been Modelling Agencies over the years that have seriously pushed the boundaries regarding content and for that reason many of the safest and model friendly websites have a very bad reputation that is clearly to those with the broader viewpoint undoubtedly not deserving. There needs to be a better understanding of the difference between the models that are very well represented and have a large fan base without any harm coming to them. Most models use the monies gained by supplying photos to a modelling Agencies to continue their education in order to provide a better life for themselves and that of their family, to shut down many of these sites you are effectively preventing the rise of an eager young mind dealing with lower quality of life due to their geographic situation. I personally think child and that of teen modelling is good work for an impoverished young actress or potential Super Model, Most of these children/teens have no way to afford photographers fees and that of the outfits required to create a portfolio for themselves without the assistance from the sponsors that purchase a membership to their particular website.

• gabrielalmighty said on Jan 01, 2009....

  I agree whole heartedly with your comment. There has never been a case where a person has harmed any model. There are always rumors about abuse to the model, but that is merely a ruse by the people against them to make them look bad. We all know this is not true, and therefore, we must shake off the idea that it is a bad thing. Most of these sites go for 20 dollars american a month, and with a base of thousands of people, you are looking at a lot of money for the models. In fact, Lil Amber (the original) and Jessi the Kid both had plenty of money to go to college. If I remember correctly, the amount was in the 200 thousand dollar range. Her mother set it aside so people you need to wake up. There is NO connection between child pornography and child modeling. Its sick when people try to link the two together. If I had a daughter and she came to me and wanted to do this, I would sit her down and explain both sides of the story so she could make her own decision on whether to persue this life or not. Its a commitment you must take seriously. It can make you money and a lot of it by the way. So in short, I am glad you think the way you do, and you are one of the people who can see past the pedophiles trying to link the children to child porn. I hope there is more people like you out there and I will continue to fight the real fight against child modeling. I will protect these children from pedophiles. Its not their fault and they should not go down because a few people has ill thoughts.

• FTW07 said on Jan 01, 2009....

  While i will agree on alot of your post there has been a handful of cases where the photographer has step way over the line with a model but if you take in consideration how few cases there are and how many models that are out there it proves your case.Now heres where i jump off I dont agree with them having models as young as eight posing in a thong on all fours or with their legs spread wide open with half of their genitalia hanging out.How many girls wear thongs,garters and nylons when they are 8-12 years old..I find that very disturbing and I personally feel it crosses the line.I have seen a couple great pics of a model with hills in the background that was simply amazing.

• gabrielalmighty said on Jan 01, 2009....

  FTW07, i agree 100% about young girls posing in thongs and risque poses. Most of the models in question are at least 12 years old. some are younger but not many. I would never let my daughter wear a thong until at least 17 maybe even 16 if I could trust her enough. Most of the ones I like actually pose for the camera and are not trying to get attention by making you aroused. The ones that do this are in my opinion not a true model.
  Stay tuned for my next post. We will start getting into the modeling companies one by one and learn why some exploded overnight and some crashed and burned.

• FTW07 said on Jan 01, 2009....

  If you have seen any of my responses on pirate bay and you will see what I mean .I think its funny how the guys who post what I think are exploitative pics of young girls in thongs and see thru tops yell at a guy who posted nude pics of who i call "Pirate bay's favorite russian girl".If you know who I mean i think she has been exploited.

• gabrielalmighty said on Jan 02, 2009....

  Yes I do know who you mean, Sandra right? Unfortunately I had to see it with my own eyes and witness the exploitation. I know she has to have been exploited at some point as there has been a few sets which can be considered child porn. Its a shame really. So popular yet so borderline cp. She is probably the only one I know that has gone as far as you possibly can without breaking every law in the world.

• FTW07 said on Jan 02, 2009....

  Yes exactly.How many rude and sexual comments you see made towards these models when posted on the bay its frightening yes i know some are just for shock value but alot are not.Do you post there?If so under what name?I dont know how Sandra's parents let her model like that there is no way it isnt suppose to be suggestive or alluring.To me she represents everything wrong with child modeling.I see nothing wrong with a girl in a bikini but some of these models parents/agency step way over the line.What model would you consider to represent what you think how modeling should be?

• gabrielalmighty said on Jan 03, 2009....

  I myself do not post there but I know of a friend of mine who has been posting there. He doesnt much care for Sandra for some reason aand I think its more to the fact that the way she poses is not for him. I agree with that. You probably seen him around the bay as SamusK. Recently banned form SuprBay because he spoke out against the banning of all models. It shows how one sided those people are over there. I like hearing all comments both good and bad. People do not realize that there are more than one side to a story. Simply putting out your believe without the facts is plain ignorance.
  The sandra issue and the LS Models pose a risk to the continuation of the model postings. Its the main reason a certain group is uniting against all models because they think they are child porn stars. I don't see where they get their information from and I think they need to take a second look around there. There is no cp anywhere on the bay and if there was, its taken care of quickly.
  I am going to start talking about people who need a reality check and should research the whole modeling industry and not a small section.
  Join me again for a look inside a group willing to take down the child and teen modeling industry just for being porn in their narrow minded eyes.

• Arshshu said on Jan 03, 2009....

  I think this problem is not going down easily until there are people out there who pay and get paid for this type of work. But that does not mean we should not take steps to our best means. It is true that success does not come cheap and quick enough for our liking – there has to be hard work to be put in and some sacrifices to be made, in order to get the results. If we can’t stop them all of a sudden, we can disrupt their ways of doing business. If we research well enough into their ways of working we might be able to chock them of their business gradually. We have to be accurate, smart, and precise in the way we fight against them. We can rally for support when we know we have them where we want them. Our motivation and our true intent will drive us forward. So let us start work on this project and take it as a challenge, a challenge we can conquer, a challenge that we know we will our come, a challenge worth our hard work.   

• gabrielalmighty said on Jan 03, 2009....

  Here is the problem with that. There are only a few of you and thousands of people around the world that share opposite feelings. You cannot stop a train, so why stop an entire industry with a handful of people. It sounds more like terrorism than a cause. Let's look at the facts. A lot of people do not share your views. They pay handsomely for the model's web access. That money gets recycled back into the world's economy. The modeling industry makes up about 8% of global net worth. Shutting it down can and will have a domino effect on the world. I hope for your sake that you don't think I am with PAP on this. I have no problem with the modeling industry. It makes a ton of money for everyone to enjoy it. Plus, you don't have to go and look at it if you don't want to. That's freewill. Something I think everyone should exercise. Counting SuprBay and a few others, your numbers don't even add up to the hundreds. Count how many support the uploading and downloading of the models and who pays into their websites of the ones still modeling. Those numbers offhand are in the hundred thousands range. It's not a matter of numbers but a matter of support. Not many people are left in this world that want to jump on a horse and become a lynch mob to a cause they know is futile. You cannot make a mountain out a mole hill and doing so will make your cause seem fruitless. People like you need to also understand that you are chasing smoke with models. There are no child porn, no matter what way you look at it. You want child porn, you look on limewire and emule. that is a haven for CP. my sources tell me its readily available to acquire. I have no use for comments like your own that have nothing to do with the topic at hand. This is not some moral crusade and you don't need to share your beliefs with a person whose main goal is to label innocent people as pedos. I have seen your group, I know how it works. They search a name on TPB and if they find a name in the pictures section, they put it on their list even if they only comment about something on a particular torrent. I was also given an intersting piece of information from a reliable informant saying that PAP was given the opportunity many times to produce solid, concrete evidence of child porn on TPB and picture torrents. You know what they came up with? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. But it didn't stop them from labeling everyone in the picture section a pedo. Hmmm. Perhaps they jumped the gun on this one because they knew they had nothing. This is what I am talking about people. Empty words. Words that mean absolutely nothing. They talk the talk, but I can guarantee that they cannot hold a candle to a word they preach about. You all remember that when you are looking at their group and thinking about joining. Till next time people.

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