If I'm a single mom, have 2 kids in grade school, and I'm holding down a job - with no supoort from either of my childrens' father - where am I going to get the extra money to raise a third child?
If I'm a 17 year old girl in high school wanting to go to college, who just got pregnant by a guy with whom I had a short-term high school relationship that I'm not interested in marrying - why would I want to slow down to take care of some baby I really don't want?
If between me and my husband we're barely getting by, have excessive credit card debt and live in poverty where is the money coming from to take care of another child?
Unlike Sarah Palin, the majority of African-Americans don't pull in a salary of $125,000 a year, and don't have the ability to take care of their babies while they sit in their offices.
Hitler and abortion = comparing apples to oranges. Extremely exaggerated.
Ever been in foster care? Ever been passed around in the system - group homes, 4, 5, 6, different foster care homes - molested or raped by people living in the same household?
Ever been stolen from by your 'foster parents'? I speak from experience. This is not something I'm just shooting the breeze about - I 'lived' this. Foster Care 9 times out of 10 is a very poor substitute for actual parents.
And what happens to a significant number of these children who are not properly cared for is they end up keeping our jails filled up and overflowing.
Well, looks like having the right to life is not such a 'great' idea after all.
If I'm a single mom, have 2 kids in grade school, and I'm holding down a job - with no supoort from either of my childrens' father - where am I going to get the extra money to raise a third child?
If I'm a 17 year old girl in high school wanting to go to college, who just got pregnant by a guy with whom I had a short-term high school relationship that I'm not interested in marrying - why would I want to slow down to take care of some baby I really don't want?
I feel that no matter what your condition is you cannot justify your condition by having an abortion. It is to late to start making "responsible" decisions. If any of the above are having sex in a way they can get pregnant that is a shame. Please don't take this the wrong way because I see these things everyday, and I want to see us better ourselves but poor decision making is not the way to go. I would rather tell the truth than to sit back and watch someone create a condition to have an abortion.There is something really wrong with this world today. The humanity of man is gone and we have become vain. No man or women should tell another that it is OK to kill a unborn child and should not side with or help that person to do so. Even though we may feel that it is the best for that person, we should know right and speak righteous things to them instead of helping them kill a unborn child. But , no you will say, you need to get rid of it. Maybe these thing are true, but where were you when this person was doing things to get pregnant. Now she is pregnant, you have become and advisor. Why don't friends tell her that they will help her in any way they can.I'm afraid Knowladge1, you ethics seem to be Christian based - I want to know why gays can't kiss in the street! Its wrong for the Church to have authority in a multi ethic society.
Have you considered there is no God? If there wasn't then why would this be wrong, and why on earth should other people live by your faith?!
Pathetic...
Abortion is pro choice. Sometimes death is better than life. Sometimes its for the best that a baby is not born at all. Nazism, or Fashism, I suppose works best, is belief in a superior race. They'll believe that they are the superior race and other races are inferior and therefore must be killed/enslaved. I don't think pro-choicers think of infants as an inferior race, and I don't think its at all fair to draw any comparison. Its like when people say Obama is a muslim because his name sounds a little bit Muslim.
I'd like the chance to say, Christians, that the Western World is now multi-faith, with an vast athiest population like myself. Laws are changing to fit what is logically right - for the greater good of society. Not just for people like you two. And you will have to learn to deal with other philosophies and ideas, new ways of thinking. Get used to it.
I don't care what the prochoicers think of their kids as except they think the child is not worthy to live and worthy to die. The fact that they kill them without considering their humanity. This isn't a philosophy. To say that is demeaning to the subject. It wasn't a philosopy that killed 6 million Jews and 50 million preborn Americans. It was the desire to kill the "unwanted." You may be the next victim. Why do I say that? You may one day have a wife (if you are a man) who wants to kill your unborn son or daughter against your will. It might be a brother or a sister, a niece or nephew. My sister had an abortion to spite her husband for a comment he made when she told him she was pregnant. He said, "is it mine?" She had the aborition to punish him. Zip. There goes my niece or nephew. She killed a family member. She did it to spite her husband - to punish him. The baby was chattle.
Do not dare to trivialize this matter. You apparently don't respect human life enough to fight for it. It is all the same to you whether these people live or die. This is why Hitler was able to get away with it. People knew 16 thousand people were being murdered by him every day. See the lastest movie on it where some of his inner circle were trying to assasinate him for this. The only reason he was able to get away with it is the general apathy of the population who didn't object to the murders. So it is here. We of conscience will sound the trumpet that these murders should not take place unpunished and must be made illegal for the sake of the countless victims. If you answer that moral question your response to this blog entry will be more meaty. Dismissing it as something like "philosophy" as though it were just a topic of discussion or a way of looking at things, is impotent to me. Address the issue of the distruction of human life and it will go further with me. Relate it to the atrocities of the past (which we all agree are attrocities) and tell me how they are different than killing our preborn citizens. Just a suggestion, though. I would like to discuss this matter on its merits without dismissing it as being just another legitimate way of thinking, because some thought we attribute to simple philosophy are killng people, and philosophy doesn't really do that, right? If it comes to the destruction of people then the phisophy is more than just that. It has turned into action which affects others. This is where it becomes immoral and an atrocity.
Don't you dare call me a Nazi or murderer!!
My first girlfriend aborted my baby. I wanted her to. We were kids. It was an accident. We did it because it was the best thing to do.
You're scum, Dobbs, Fashist Christian bible thumping scum. You are the reason why I tend to hate Christians and why I hate Americans.
Its not your decision what people do with their lives. But you wish you could control people's life's because you're a fashist.
I suggest you kill yourself, society would benefit.
I read this thread from time to time and there was something about Carl’s posts that got me thinking. His attitude reminded me of someone but I couldn’t remember who – and then I did. He reminds me of the priests from school who would vehemently preach one thing and do something else on the side. His attitude is very similar and intolerant. He’s placed himself on his own little throne - a one man inquisition. But no one really knows him. No one has any idea what kind of person he is, how he lives, or what he’s done in his life. History has shown us that sometimes the most righteous are the most vicious. Just a thought...
Anonymous, thank you. I agree.
I got this in an anarchist pamplet from a friend (I'm not an anarchist BTW)
"In Chicago, we created an underground network to provide illegal abortions in safe conditions and a supportive atmosphere when the religious fanatics would have preferred us to die in shame and tears down dark alleys"
Yup, again with the Hitler. And calling us murderers.
You see Carl, the world would be just that little bit better if your mum had you aborted :D
I think its so funny that you REFUSE point blank to even consider someone elses point of view.
I don't believe in God because I'm a rational human being. Origins of religion can be traced back so far now I find it incredible that people still cling to these notions.
Without abortion America and Britain would be fucked. I got a girl pregnant and she had an abortion when I was a kid in order for me to do good work with inner city kids.
Take it your another bible thumper?