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Is the Law of God “Done Away”?

            By Carl Dobbs

What the Dilemma Is

            There are some Christians that say that the Law of Moses, given to the people of Israel thousands of years ago, is no longer binding on Christians.   The law, which Moses delivered, is called the Ten Commandments.  They include such words as “Honor your father and your mother,” “Keep the Sabbath day holy”, “You shall not kill.”  These are the basic laws that our country was founded on and are the basis of what many would call their own personal moral code. The question is, why God would give his holy law to the people of Israel and then change his mind and say, “Oh, well.  I guess you can toss it away now.”  It doesn’t make sense when you first look at it.  So let’s see what the Bible has to say about it.

            First, let us understand what happened from the very beginning and how God looks at his relationship with his creation.  According to the Bible, God created the first man, Adam.  Alongside him, Eve was created.   They were placed in a garden, called “The Garden of Eden” where they had all they needed to live.  Their only responsibility was to tend the garden.  Their only law was to not eat of the one tree in the garden that was called, “The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil.”  (Genesis chapters 1 thru three.)  The penalty for breaking this one law? 

          “And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat: 17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.” (Gen 2:16 and context.)

 

The Snake Enters:

                So the snake (whom people say was possessed by Satan and was therefore able to communicate with Eve) tempted Eve to eat the fruit.

            “Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? 2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. 4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.”Gen 3:1-5 (KJV)

            He also explained it in detail what he meant.  After the snake tempted Adam and Eve to eat of this fruit, this is what he said:

            17 And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life; 18  Gen  Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field; 19 In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.  Gen 3:17-19 (KJV)

            So God allowed him to live a whole life before he died of old age.  Denied eternal life, he was to return to the dust of the ground after years of strenuous work tilling unblessed ground. That was his punishment.  Notice here, too, that no mention of eternal live in hell was there.  God never told Adam and Eve that anything else would happen to them but death and returning to dust.  So the concept that he would experience eternal life in torment would have been against the plain statements of God.  This will come into play later in this article.

            Notice what his crime was.  Before he disobeyed God he didn’t know what evil was.  He and Eve saw that the fruit was good to eat and they made the decision that they would decide for themselves what was good and evil.  They made up their own minds what their moral code would be.  They were also under the impression that making this decision would make them like God with the ability to know what good is about and also what evil is about.  They thought it would make them wise.  (Read the entire context of Genesis 3).  So their crime was to decide to start making decisions (i.e. what is and what is not moral) thinking that would make them more like their creator (or equal to him.)

            Now notice this passage from Isaiah chapter 14:  It tells us how sin originated and who originated it.  It was Satan   (the devil, whose name, “Satan” means “adversary.”)  But originally this spirit’s name was “Lucifer”, which meant, “Bringer of Light.”

            12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.” Isaiah 14:12-14 (KJV)

                Notice that the snake tempted Adam and Eve with the same thing that Satan Lucifer was tempted with: being like the most High (or, as better translated, BE the most high.)  In this Satan wanted to make his decisions about what was good and evil and not have to listen to God. 

            Well, that explains why he used that thought process to sway Adam and Eve to his way of thinking.  At that point, when they began to obey him instead of God, they made Satan their ruler.

            After that, their son Cain killed his brother, Abel.  Why this happened isn’t important. (In fact, this is not said to be the very first murder anywhere in its context, only that he killed his brother.)  Cain knew what would happen to him.  The others in community would kill him for the murder.  God knew this would happen, not because God commanded it to happen according to any law he created, but that it was a serious consideration.  So he spared Cain’s life and told him his only punishment would to be in exile (to the land of “Nod” which means “wilderness.”)  (Gen 4:1-16)

             In fact, God refused to kill anyone at that time, not even for murder, except for the guarantee that they would all, one day, die and not live forever – that they would return to dust.

            But that’s not the end of the story.  Cain’s descendant also killed:

            16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land of Nod, on the east of Eden. 17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch. 18 And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.

19 And Lamech took unto him two wives: the name of the one was Adah, and the name of the other Zillah. 20 And Adah bare Jabal: he was the father of such as dwell in tents, and of such as have cattle. 21 And his brother's name was Jubal: he was the father of all such as handle the harp and organ. 22 And Zillah, she also bare Tubalcain, an instructer of every artificer in brass and iron: and the sister of Tubalcain was Naamah.
23 And Lamech said unto his wives, Adah and Zillah, Hear my voice; ye wives of Lamech, hearken unto my speech: for I have slain a man to my wounding, and a young man to my hurt. 24 If Cain shall be avenged sevenfold, truly Lamech seventy and sevenfold.  Gen 4:16-24 (KJV)

So, it seems, that people were killing each other and that it was generally understood that one would have to beware of his neighbors lest he die by their hand.

What This Meant for Mandkind:

            The next thing we know is that the entire world becomes evil.  So great did evil reign that God decided to kill all of the people on the Earth but Noah, who built the famous ark. 

            Now all these crimes were done without any law of Moses.  But they were so evil that they were to be wiped off the Earth.  (My personal slant on this is that they would have killed themselves off anyway and there was no chance of mankind surviving.  This idea is taken from Matthew chapter 24 where Jesus said mankind would, one day, be so evil that unless he returned there would be no life left on Earth.  That is when God would finally intervene.)  He then made a covenant with Noah, which you can read in the same context as the other scriptures quoted, that tells them that he would never send another flood to destroy all of mankind.

            It was only after the flood that God pronounced that it was all right for men to kill murderers.

And surely your blood of your lives will I require; at the hand of every beast will I require it, and at the hand of man; at the hand of every man's brother will I require the life of man. Whoso sheddeth man's blood, by man shall his blood be shed: for in the image of God made he man. Gen 9:5-7 (KJV)

            It was many years later when Moses came onto the scene.  At this time the people of Israel were numbering into the millions.  They were situated near Egypt in a land of their own called “Goshen.”  They were forced into slavery by the Egyptians.  As you probably know, Moses led them out of Egypt and gave them the Old Covenant, which was the ten commandments.  This is recorded in Exodus 12 and Deuteronomy 14.

          Essentially, the Ten Commandments constituted the Old Testament.

De 4:13  And he declared unto you his covenant, which he commanded you to perform, even ten commandments; and he wrote them upon two tables of stone.   In fact, whenever the Ten Commandments are mentioned in the Bible, they are always labeled as the Covenant.  The Ten Commandments were the ones that were written on the two tables of stone that God gave to Moses.   But God’s law also included laws that are contained within the first five books of the Old Testament scriptures, called The Pentateuch, or The Torah, or The Law of Moses.

Now, About The New Testabment:

            In the book of Matthew, Jesus tells us that

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I say unto you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, ye shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven Matt 5:17-20 (KJV)

 

So did Jesus come to destroy the Law?  No. He came to fulfill it.  While he was still alive, the Law was in effect.  It was when he died that it became obsolete.  He had no reason or will to destroy what his father, God, had created for the people of Israel.  That word, “law,” takes on a really interesting meaning.  The law of Moses was to be done away with, but not by nullifying it.  He came to finish what Moses had started and to go on from there.  The following scriptures should be self evident:

            1 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved. Acts 15:1 (KJV)               

                The decision?            22 Then pleased it the apostles and elders, with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas, and Silas, chief men among the brethren: 23 And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia: 24 Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment: 25 It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, 26 Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth. 28 For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things; 29 That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well. 30 So when they were dismissed, they came to Antioch: and when they had gathered the multitude together, they delivered the epistle: 31 Which when they had read, they rejoiced for the consolation.  Acts 15:22-31 (KJV)

            What explanation is needed?  The apostles said that the Law of Moses is no longer to be taught and was no longer necessary.  Did this mean the 10 Commandments too?  Well, the 10 Commandments were the Law of Moses.  They were the ones written in stone and which were preached.  The only parts of the Law of Moses that the Apostles thought worthy to retain were: “abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.”

                But did this really mean the 10 Commandments?  Read what the New Testament says about this in particular.  (Remember that the 10 Commandments were written on tables of stone.)

II Corinthians: 3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory. 10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious. 2 Cor 3:7-11 (KJV)

                There you have it.  Yes.  The 10 Commandments (the Old Covenant) were replaced by a new, more important covenant.  See also the following:

Heb 9:15 (KJV) 15 And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.

But read the entire chapter of Heb. 9.  This explains it completely.  Jesus paid for all of the sins committed under the Old Testament so that the old law had no more power over people.  Every transgression that anyone ever committed under that law was forgiven.  This is what it means to FULFILL the Law that Jesus said he would do.  He fulfilled it by dying.

Read Hebrews 10: 

Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. Heb 10:8-14 (KJV)

            Yes, the Old Testament had to yield to the New Testament which was based, not upon punishment and death and obedience to law, but on mercy, grace and faith.

Rom 3: 20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin. 21 But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 

            Notice that the righteousness of God without the law is manifested.  It goes on, later in this chapter, to show that Abraham’s faith was credited to him as righteousness, not the obedience to law.  Read the entire chapter.  It shows that Jesus’ covenant is one of faith, not of legality.

              Heb 10: 26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,  27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30 For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31 It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

                Therefore God does not allow sin.  However, you must remember that the word “punishment” in this verse is very much explained by the same author in the very next chapter.  You see, God only punishes for our benefit, for we are his children and wishes to correct us.

Hebrews 10:5 And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him: 6 For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth. 7 If ye endure chastening, God dealeth with you as with sons; for what son is he whom the father chasteneth not? 8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons. 9 Furthermore we have had fathers of our flesh which corrected us , and we gave them reverence: shall we not much rather be in subjection unto the Father of spirits, and live? 10 For they verily for a few days chastened us after their own pleasure; but he for our profit, that we might be partakers of his holiness. 11 Now no chastening for the present seemeth to be joyous, but grievous: nevertheless afterward it yieldeth the peaceable fruit of righteousness unto them which are exercised thereby.

            Therefore God does not punish to destroy the one he punishes.  The Bible says he is far more worthy of punishment if he sins willfully.  It does also say that he does it for our ultimate good and will not do it in the sense of “justice” or “paying for a crime.”  We should praise God for letting vengeance belong only to him because he punishes, not like a man would punish, to execute vengeance for the sake of hate.  God’s sense of justice is one of mercy and his punishment is purely for love.  No, there is no more sacrifice for sin (so what?  Only one is needed.)  But expecting punishment and “fiery” indignation didn’t mean eternal death either.  For God would find no pleasure in punishing someone if it were not good for the person who is being punished. 

            So notice:  If you read this article correctly you’ll find that God had one way to punish people from the time of Adam to the time of Moses, a more organized way to punish people during the time of Moses, and still another way to punish sinners after Jesus became our lord and savior.

            The following verse explains it further:  This is from the second chapter of Hebrews:  

1 Therefore we ought to give the more earnest heed to the things which we have heard, lest at any time we should let them slip.  2 For if the word spoken by angels was stedfast, and every transgression and disobedience received a just recompence of reward;  3 How shall we escape, if we neglect so great salvation; which at the first began to be spoken by the Lord, and was confirmed unto us by them that heard him ;  4 God also bearing them witness, both with signs and wonders, and with divers miracles, and gifts of the Holy Ghost, according to his own will?

                Notice that it does not say that neglecting salvation will cause punishment.  It says that if the Law of Moses, delivered by God’s messengers and the prophets, was steadfast and every transgression was punished, how shall we escape the punishment if we don’t take advantage of Jesus’ offer of salvation.  This is a positive statement.  It has the following meaning, “To escape punishment from the Old Testament Law of Moses, don’t refuse to accept Jesus’ salvation!”  This is what the New Testament teaches consistently and any thought that you may have that there is a mean, terrifying God whose great pleasure is to see you suffer, then just remember: He didn’t do that in Adam’s time.  He didn’t do that in Moses’ time.  He certainly isn’t doing in since Jesus came.

            You can’t get the complete truth until you have read the entire new Testament.  It must be taken as a whole.  We must not read “Vengeance belongs to me saith the Lord” without reading the following chapter to show God’s punishment is done with love so that we may repent.  You can’t read a verse out of context.  The subject can not be completely understood by this article alone.  This is not a comprehensive discussion.  I just hope it tantalizes the reader to learn more and to watch out for preachers who preach Hell Fire and eternal punishing of the wicked.

            I hope this helps you understand the subject of Law and Mercy.   It also will stamp out the idea that God allows people to burn forever and ever in a Hell, being tortured day and night without hope.  This does not fit into the plan of God.

           

                               

 

 

 

               

 

 



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  • Knowledge1 said on Nov 17, 2008....
    Writer, Please help me understand,  Are you saying that the law is obselete? I was always taught that we will be judged by our works. If this is true, then by what standards will our works  be judged other than the law of Moses and the Prophets ?
  • WriterCarlDobbs said on Nov 18, 2008....

    We are held up to a higher standard.  Read Hebrews 4, the first few verses.  The old concept of the Sabbath is replaced by the promise of a sabbath rest for the people of God.  The Old Testament laws of the Day of Atonement is thoroughly explained in the book of Hebrews also.  It is fulfilled when Jesus died, the temple veil miraculously cut itself in two and the entrance to heaven was ordaned.  There are so many ways that the OT pictured what the NT brings to reality.     The new LAW is to have faith in Jesus.  Faith was credited to Abraham as righteousness.  There is no righteousness without faith in the NT.  And of course God will judge you by what you do.  It is said in the NT in the book of James, "Show me your faith without your works and I'll show you my faith by my works."  Jesus also said, "I was naked and you clothed, me, in prison and you visited me, hungry and you fed me."  Those who did not do these acts of love (not acts of obeying a law set in stone) shows that you do have the Spirit of God in you. 

         The Spirit manifests itself in what you do.  It doesn't do worthless things like speaking in tongues to the benefit of no one.  The Holy Spirit does the work of God.  These are the works that Jesus said he did.  "I do the works of my father" and he worked them on the Sabbath Day to the dismay of the pharisees. 

           God will know you have faith in him.  Read all of the NT.  He consistently emphasizes doing good like the good Samaritan.  That demonstrates God's work.  The Pharisees wanted to stone a woman caught in adultry.  Jesus said "He who has no sin among you let him cast the first stone."  His mercy was a WORK that was of mercy, not judgment.

            At the end of Matthew 7 when he just finished the sermon on the mount, did he not say that they who do those things mentioned are to become perfect (word meaning "mature") even as his Father is perfect?  So do the things that his sermon says to do.  These are the works.  But they are not done mechanically as those who count how many hours they say prayers every week or count how much cash they give to the poor.  They are done in the heart out of a pure spirit.  This is the work Jesus did all of his life.

            I can talk to you more on this blog.  Feel free to email me at carlmdobbs@aol.com or carlmdobbs@gmail.com.  Sometimes AOL is strange and doesn't always work when sending emails.  I can minister to you personally.  This is the work that Jesus speaks of. 

           But do not take the Ten Commandments as a law that is enforced by people who would kll you for breaking them, as in the OT.  That law is no longer in force.  Jesus died to completely pay the penalty of all who sinned under that law.  It took the power of that law away.  We now look to having faith that Jesus will do his work in us.  HE WILL DO HIS WORK IN US which will then cause us to do his work with others.  He works in us to help us to do works for others.  This is how he will judge, according to our works.  Are they like his?  Do you bear fruit?  Do you show love?  Do you do the things Jesus would be doing in your personal situation?  This is the new law.  Let Jesus perform his works through you.

  • Knowledge1 said on Nov 26, 2008....
    I want to paste a comment I posted on another blog, I would like to hear your response...The discussion was actually about  Jesus saying satan would decieve the whole world...

    Deuteronomy 13:1-4...If there arise among you a young prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, wherefore he spake unto thee, saying Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, yo know whather ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear himm, and keep his comandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him.

    Matthew 5:17...Jesus said " Think not that I have come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy but to fulfill.

    We are taught that Jesus was a perfect man, well, by what standards do we determine this other the law of Moses and the prophets. Many people believe that the visions of Peter and Paul was the primary factor in the cancellation of the laws. Jesus spent his whole life in strict adherance to the commamdments of the law of Moses. Paul's dreams have broken commandments left and right. There is so much that Jesus did during his life time that his followers have totally neglected, not because Jesus told them to break them because Paul would later tell them to break them upon the authority of the visions he was recieving. Paul said that God holds mankind responsible for the sin of Adam, but God himself said long before Paul was ever born that...."The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for their fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sins" Deut. 24:16. Paul further revealed that Jesus came to him in visions and told him to nullify the commandments which Jesus spent 30 years on earth upholding. Paul said that these commanments were a curse upon us and the only requirement in order to recieve salvation is to believe in the original sin and the attonement. No actual work is necessary. Jesus departed not only never violating the law, but also told his people that "till heaven and earth pass" whoever would dare to do so would be called the "least in the kingdom of God".  I believe in Jesus and his teaching, the appostles I'm not so sure of. Remember this 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion. If God is not the author of confusion then we know who is. Satan will come into the strait path of religion to decieve the righteous.

    a statement I wrote in another blog, and I would like you opinion
  • WriterCarlDobbs said on Nov 27, 2008....

    Jesus and The Law of Moses:

     

     

    This is what was asked.  I will respond step by step:

     

    *       I want to paste a comment I posted on another blog, I would like to hear your response...The discussion was actually about  Jesus saying satan would decieve the whole world...

    Deuteronomy 13:1-4...If there arise among you a young prophet, or a dreamer of dreams, and giveth thee a sign or a wonder, and the sign or the wonder come to pass, wherefore he spake unto thee, saying Let us go after other gods, which thou hast not known, and let us serve them; Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the Lord your God proveth you, yo know whather ye love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Ye shall walk after the Lord your God, and fear himm, and keep his comandments, and obey his voice, and ye shall serve Him, and cleave unto Him.

    Matthew 5:17...Jesus said " Think not that I have come to destroy the law or the prophets: I am not come to destroy but to fulfill.

    We are taught that Jesus was a perfect man, well, by what standards do we determine this other the law of Moses and the prophets. Many people believe that the visions of Peter and Paul was the primary factor in the cancellation of the laws. Jesus spent his whole life in strict adherance to the commamdments of the law of Moses. Paul's dreams have broken commandments left and right. There is so much that Jesus did during his life time that his followers have totally neglected, not because Jesus told them to break them because Paul would later tell them to break them upon the authority of the visions he was recieving. Paul said that God holds mankind responsible for the sin of Adam, but God himself said long before Paul was ever born that...."The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for their fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sins" Deut. 24:16. Paul further revealed that Jesus came to him in visions and told him to nullify the commandments which Jesus spent 30 years on earth upholding. Paul said that these commanments were a curse upon us and the only requirement in order to recieve salvation is to believe in the original sin and the attonement. No actual work is necessary. Jesus departed not only never violating the law, but also told his people that "till heaven and earth pass" whoever would dare to do so would be called the "least in the kingdom of God".  I believe in Jesus and his teaching, the appostles I'm not so sure of. Remember this 1 Corinthians 14:33 For God is not the author of confusion. If God is not the author of confusion then we know who is. Satan will come into the strait path of religion to decieve the righteous.

    a statement I wrote in another blog, and I would like you opinion

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

                The question arises, why would Jesus cancel out a law that he had to obey all of his life, that is the Old Tesatment.  The answer is rather obvious when you learn it.  Jesus was born a Jew and was subject to the law of Moses just like everyone else who was Jewish.  If he broke the law he was committing a sin and would never have qualified to be our High Priest.

            But the Law of Moses was not God’s perfect law that was supposed to terminate at what the Bible calls “the time of reformation.”   This is a complex subject so let us take this in logical steps.

                I would not describe the Apostle Paul or any of the other apostles as “dreamers of dreams.”  They did not originate the doctrines nor did they see them in visions but were taught directly by Jesus.  Paul spent years being taught by Jesus without any other source of knowledge about Christianity.

     

    Take this from Galatians chapter 1:

    10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ. 11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man. 12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ. 13 For ye have heard of my conversation in time past in the Jews' religion, how that beyond measure I persecuted the church of God, and wasted it: 14 And profited in the Jews' religion above many my equals in mine own nation, being more exceedingly zealous of the traditions of my fathers. 15 But when it pleased God, who separated me from my mother's womb, and called me by his grace, 16 To reveal his Son in me, that I might preach him among the heathen; immediately I conferred not with flesh and blood: 17 Neither went I up to Jerusalem to them which were apostles before me; but I went into Arabia, and returned again unto Damascus. 18 Then after three years I went up to Jerusalem to see Peter, and abode with him fifteen days. 19 But other of the apostles saw I none, save James the Lord's brother. 20 Now the things which I write unto you, behold, before God, I lie not. 21 Afterwards I came into the regions of Syria and Cilicia; 22 And was unknown by face unto the churches of Judaea which were in Christ: 23 But they had heard only, That he which persecuted us in times past now preacheth the faith which once he destroyed. 24 And they glorified God in me.

     

            Jesus revealed the truth to Paul directly by revelation.  Remember, it was Paul that Jesus personally met to convert him in the book of Acts.how Jesus came to the man who was once named Saul to convert him personally, one on one.  And, as you know, the Holy Spirit of God taught them.  There were no visions or dreams mentioned in how the Apostles got their knowledge of God.  It was all direct communication from the Holy Spirit which resided in their minds.

     

           Now about the Law of Moses:

     

    Gal 1:10-24 (KJV)

     

     

     

    Galatians 3: 19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator. 20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one. 21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law. 22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe. 23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed. 24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. 25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster. 26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.

    Gal 3:19-26 (KJV)

           The Law of Moses was given to a lawless society that had no standards to live by.  The people had to be given order otherwise chaos results.  The Law was given to them under specific circumstances and for a reason.   They needed rules to live by for that period of time.  But the New Testament speaks of this in this manner:

         But look at Hebrews chapter 9:

     

    1 Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. 2 For there was a tabernacle made; the first, wherein was the candlestick, and the table, and the shewbread; which is called the sanctuary. 3 And after the second veil, the tabernacle which is called the Holiest of all; 4 Which had the golden censer, and the ark of the covenant overlaid round about with gold, wherein was the golden pot that had manna, and Aaron's rod that budded, and the tables of the covenant; 5 And over it the cherubims of glory shadowing the mercyseat; of which we cannot now speak particularly. 6 Now when these things were thus ordained, the priests went always into the first tabernacle, accomplishing the service of God. 7 But into the second went the high priest alone once every year, not without blood, which he offered for himself, and for the errors of the people:
    8 The Holy Ghost this signifying, that the way into the holiest of all was not yet made manifest, while as the first tabernacle was yet standing: 9 Which was a figure for the time then present, in which were offered both gifts and sacrifices, that could not make him that did the service perfect, as pertaining to the conscience; 10 Which stood only in meats and drinks, and divers washings, and carnal ordinances, imposed on them until the time of reformation. 11 But Christ being come an high priest of good things to come, by a greater and more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands, that is to say, not of this building; 12 Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us. 13 For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh: 14 How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    Heb 9:1-14 (KJV)                                                                                                  

           I put the key words into bold font.  The law was there until the time of reformation.  Jesus reformed the way God dealt with the people.  (Remember.  “reform” means to re form.  To form again into a different shape.)  It was now time to change the entire law.

             Notice how he did this.  First, Jesus’ death made the sacrifice of animals no longer necessary.  He died for us.

      1 For the law having a shadow of good things to come, and not the very image of the things, can never with those sacrifices which they offered year by year continually make the comers thereunto perfect. 2 For then would they not have ceased to be offered? because that the worshippers once purged should have had no more conscience of sins. 3 But in those sacrifices there is a remembrance again made of sins every year. 4 For it is not possible that the blood of bulls and of goats should take away sins. 5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me: 6 In burnt offerings and sacrifices for sin thou hast had no pleasure.
    7 Then said I, Lo, I come (in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God. 8 Above when he said, Sacrifice and offering and burnt offerings and offering for sin thou wouldest not, neither hadst pleasure therein; which are offered by the law; 9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God. He taketh away the first, that he may establish the second. 10 By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. 11 And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: 12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; 13 From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. 14 For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. 15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, 16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; 17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. 18 Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.

    Heb 10:1-18 (KJV)

              So all of the law of Moses having to do with sacrifices are no longer valid.  They were wiped clean.

              We also know that Jesus said that the old law of “an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth” was no longer valid when he commanded that we must turn the other cheek.

     

    38 Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth: 39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.

    Matt 5:38-39 (KJV)

         So all of the hundreds of laws pertaining to the criminal justice system were eliminated.  The entire law of  Moses was based upon that principle.

          Now what about the observance of the Holy Days?  The Feast of Tabernacles, the Feast of Trumpets, the Day of Atonement, the Passover, etc.  Look to John chapter 4.  There was a Samaritan woman who Jesus met at a well.  It was not common for the Jews to talk to Samaritans because the Samaritans were an offshoot of the Jews who did not obey the law of God as did the Jews.  They took liberties.  The Jews had to worship at Jerusalem according to the law but the Samaritans worshiped on a mountain in their own country.  The Samaritan woman asked Jesus the following:

    19 The woman saith unto him, Sir, I perceive that thou art a prophet. 20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. 21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father. 22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. 23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. 24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

    John 4:19-24 (KJV)

                So Jesus negated the requirement to worship at Jerusalem.  No longer do any of those laws pertaining to worship at Jerusalem make any difference.  Remember: “Neither in this mountain nor yet at Jerusalem.”  So all the laws pertaining to that worship were dismissed.

             Go to Hebrews chapter 7.

     

    11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. 13 For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. 14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood. 15 And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16 Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. 17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. 18 For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 19 For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God. 20 And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest: 21 (For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec:) 22 By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament. 23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. 28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

    Heb 7:11-28 (KJV)

             Here we see that the priesthood of Aaron (the Levitical priesthood)  was replaced by the Melchisedec priesthood.  All the laws pertaining to priesthood were now abolished by the introduction of Jesus, who was called after the order of Melchizedek, not after the order of Aaron.  See verse 18 above?  For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.”

              The law could not forgive sin.  Only the New Testament could do that.  The old law had to be done away with so that we could accept the blood of Jesus for the remission of sin.

              The Law of Moses simply meant death to the sinner.  Jesus’ covenant means life to the repentant.

                So what is left of the Old Testament?  The Levitical priesthood is done away.  The laws about where to worship are done away.  The “eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth” laws are done away.  The sacrificial laws are done away.  The entire concept of the “unprofitable” law was replaced by a profitable law.

    Read this again:

    11    If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron? 12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

     

          Essentially, Jesus replaced the old law with one that was even more to God’s perfection.  Law didn’t disappear, just a new set of rules came into place.  For the old law was there for a certain time, until the time of reformation when Jesus would take control directly.  The old law was imperfect, flawed, temporary, there for a certain time to bridge the gap between a totally lawless people to one that had law to one that needed a new set of rules.

    Now remember.  It wasn’t Paul who ordained that Jesus would be a priest called after the order of Melchizedek.  That was something that was defined by God.  Paul had nothing to do with the course of events.  He just explained them and why they happened.  And I must most certainly point out, in case you didn’t know this, that the book of Hebrews never identifies its author.  Paul clearly identifies himself in all of his other epistles.  Hebrews was not attributed to Paul until centuries after Jesus died and was resurrected.   This doctrine expressed in Hebrews was the prevailing Christian teaching and therefore the book of Hebrews was included in the cannon.  The prevailing teachings of the church defined the book of Hebrews.  Hebrews did not define what everyone should think.  It is a representation of Christian thought and had to be so in order to be included in the New Testament cannon.  No one person is responsible for the teachings of this message.

           So the conclusion is, Jesus dismantled the law by his very coming.  He was there to transition.

     23 And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood. 25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. 26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27 Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself. 28 For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore.

    Heb 7:23-28 (KJV)

          Remember, if Jesus hadn’t replaced the old law with the new there would have been no completion of God’s plan for salvation.

           I hope this explains the matter and I hope that you continue to ask questions.  You have good questions.

     

  • lashlaru said on Nov 27, 2008....
    Knowledge1:  All that Writer has responded is correct; however, I'd like to add something that might help you understand the context of the subject.  When mankind was created by the Son component of the Triune God, also called the Word (incarnate Jesus Christ) Adam and Eve were the genesis for all mankind.  What they did and became established the template for mankind.  So when they chose to listen to Satan and sinned against God, they infused that flaw into mankind and sin entered the world.  And because of that, God pronounced the punishment for sin to be death.....not necessarily immediate death, but death at some time to be determined by God.  Now jumping ahead to Moses time, God gave Moses the 10 commandments to provide a set of rules to govern not only Israel's behavior but for all of mankinds' behavior.  These commandments were principles that, when followed, allowed mankind to live happy lives within society.  God also said he intended for mankind to incorperate them into they "hearts" and not just their minds (this they didn't/couldn't do).  And if these commandments were violated, then sin was committed and death would follow.  God also gave Moses a number of ordinances for the nation of Israel to follow, with associated penalties.  And to go along with these, God instructed them to offer sacrifices to atone for their sins; thus the sacrifice of bulls, sheep, birds, etc.....depending on the severity of the offense.  Now to the crux of the matter......when the "law" and/or "law of Moses" is referred to in the NT, it is not only referring to the commandments themselves but includes the associated penalties asssociated with them.  Christ and the apostles were not talking about doing away with the Commandments but rather eliminating the need for sacrifices to atone for sin.  When the Son became a human being, He became the 2nd Adam and was the vicarious representative for all mankind----past, present, and future.  And since He lived a perfect life (not allowing Himself to commit a sin--even though He was tempted like us) He was able to be offered as a sin offering, without blemish, for all of mankind.  When He took the sins of the world onto Himself at the cross, he atoned for ALL mankind and eliminated the death penalty imposed because of sin.  This is how he defeated death.  Satan no longer has the ability to cause us to suffer the penalty for sin because Christ paid the price already.  And when you read the sermon on the Mount in Matt. 5-7, you see that Christ taught that not only should we be keeping the the letter of the law (10 commandments) but should be expanding them to fullest spiritual intent (which is what He wanted Israel to do in the beginning).  And with the sacrifice of Christ, not only is the death penalty removed, but also the need to observe the ordinances and other "rules" imposed on the nation of Israel; i.e. Holy Days, clean/unclean meats, washing of cups, keeping the physical sabbath, and hundreds of other picky points imposed by the Pharisees.
     
    I pray this helps you have a better perspective.

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