• uniquely-ironic said on Oct 17, 2008....

  Pretty impressive information.  I have taken several IQ tests and still for the life of me cannot remember where I landed.  It would be ironic to find that I qualify for Mensa, but since I have shit for memory that it will likely not happen ;)
   
  I would have thought Stephen Hawkings and Einstein would have been higher up there.

• beyondtheveil said on Oct 17, 2008....

  unique- An IQ of 160 is very high and their smarts are concentrated in math. Also, you have to remember that many times people are credited by the public with more than they have actually done. Lets take Einstein for an example.
  
  Einstein's professors said he was one of the laziest people they had ever worked with. As in almost every case of scientific breakthrough, scientists are standing on a mountain of work others have done and take the next step only. It was that way in the special and general theories of relativity.
  
  Einstein took from 1905 to1915 to publish the general theory and that could have been cut much shorter if he had taken the time to read scientific journals. He was totally stumped on the math and another physicist told him to look at the writings of Georg Reiman. He did and found the mathematical hypothesis for curved geometry was laid out for him back around 1850.
  
  I'm not trying to discredit Einstein. He is responsible for a couple of the greatest leaps of the imagination in history, but it didn't take a stratospheric IQ to do it.
  

• wombat said on Oct 17, 2008....

  I am surprised to see Sharon Stone and James Woods up there---not because I thought they were stupid or anything---I was just surprised in general.

  And wow!  A two year old girl equal to Stephen Hawking?  Makes you really wonder about alot of mysterious things in this universe!

  By the way, I was taking an IQ test on line just the other day to pass the time, and then I clicked out of it before I saw my score--didn't want to put my email on it, I guess.  Now that's dumb!  I felt like I had a little more than half right, though.  I can figure out those things sometimes, but I can't remember yesterday, or where my shoes are.  Thanks for the list of info!

• beyondtheveil said on Oct 17, 2008....

  wombat- I knew about Sharon Stone, but not James Woods.
  
  I've taken a couple of those IQ tests. When they ask for email address I ignore it and hit the submit. It usually gives me my score.
  

• wombat said on Oct 17, 2008....

  Well maybe I should have done so.  Or take it again?  Now I have the jump on what answers I want to give!  I found I was pretty good at the "number progression" thing, or at least I thought so.  I wish I had hit submit!   I took one in Reader's Digest once and did not cheat.  I got a good score!
   
  I really like James Woods as an actor----if he is so smart, wonder what he is doing right now?
   
  And while we are on the subject, what was that movie with James Woods and Sharon Stone?  I remember watching it over and over, but now my poor IQ has deserted me once again.......

• wombat said on Oct 17, 2008....

  Beat you to it....."The Specialist."   !!!!   The internet is amazing.......

• mobil said on Oct 17, 2008....

  IQ's are funny things beyond. The Marine Corps measured mine at 124, I don't know how accurate that was. One thing I have noticed about most intellectuals and the people listed above included.

   

  They are mostly intelligent or talented in just certain aspects of the arts and sciences, many of them are/were idiots or non conformists about everyday life and living. Often unable to blend in, or work and play well with others.

   

  I have no data to back my observations up, so they are simply observations.

• lfbno7 said on Oct 17, 2008....

  I'd have to completely reject the IQ scores estimated by psychologists. I don't see how someone can estimate someone else's score accurately. I don't think it can be done, and I don't think that "psychologists" are qualified to do it.

• silver_phoenix said on Oct 17, 2008....

  wow beyond, a 2 year old??? holy shit!

• beyondtheveil said on Oct 18, 2008....

  wombat- I have no idea what Woods is doing now. And I saw the specialist, just can't place it. I'll google it .
  
  mobil- IQ's are funny things but IQ tests are funnier. I think the mensa test is long, involved, and supervised. I wouldn't trust just any test. You're on target in your second paragraph. Intelligence doesn't say anything about good old common sense. Also, I've read about some of these people such as Newton and Pascal. Neither fit in with every day life or with people. But I'm sure most do.
  
  7- First, everything 200 or over is estimated, I believe all up to 200 can be verified. However, the estimated scores by the psychologists mentioned are people who lived from 1450-1850. A handful of phd's studied their lives with all the info they could collect and used their knowledge in IQ testing to come up with this. I don't know how close they would be, but why wouldn't it be a fair estimate?
  
  phoenix- Hard to believe a two year old could test like that, but she did. I imagine I could say a few words at two.
  
  
  

• queenparanoia said on Oct 18, 2008....

  wtf... sharon stone has a 154 IQ?????????????

  again???
  

  wtf????????????????

• beyondtheveil said on Oct 18, 2008....

  queenie- You lost me. What do you mean by "again?". 

• queenparanoia said on Oct 18, 2008....

  hehehehe lol... sorry i was just so lost at this... i mean really sharon stone??? lol... ;-)

• destinydiva said on Oct 18, 2008....

  wow, the 2 year old thats amazing!!  I was also surprised to see sharon stone up there...I'm not even sure why :-) 
  
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• lfbno7 said on Oct 18, 2008....

  I think it wouldn't be an accurate estimate because the person didn't take a test and it's impossible to know someone's IQ by studying their lives. I don't see how anyone could guess my IQ by studying my life. No way.

• skald said on Oct 18, 2008....

  I have taken IQ tests and I score high but does it help in anyway. I wonder. Some people with not so high IQ get just as well on in life. 

• the_infernal_optimist said on Oct 18, 2008....

  I'm also not convinced how much of any kind of "gift" a supposedly high IQ is. Mine is in the 150s (or was the last time I was tested years and years ago -- having kids might have dropped it by a good bit! ;-)), and I tend to think it does come with a certain degree of social ineptitude. Mobil isn't wrong there.
  
  I have several family members with numbers around mine or higher, and the ones with the highest numbers do seem to be least socially "normal" and have the least common sense. :-p This stuff is always interesting though.
  
  ~Infernal
  

• husbandhater said on Oct 18, 2008....

  And here I thought you were posting an I.Q. test.

• pusscat said on Oct 18, 2008....

  This was very interesting.  I did know about the list here as my sister sent them to me a few weeks back but I must admit I agree with mobil.  I have done a few of these tests and scored high 150s, a 160 and a 161.  i would not say I fair any better in life than anyone with a lower IQ.  Many genius do find themselves very alone and lonely.  I have also lived next door to a highly qualified teacher.  This same man seemed to have less common sense than anyone I had ever met LOL!  He could run rings around me on certain subjects but, how to lower his heating bills or take care of his Iguana were just beyond him!
  
  I must say though, the Mensa tests that I have done did not seem broad enough in content.  i know this may appear to be digressing but, as someone that smokes and roll my own, I buy Amber Leaf which comes with its own papers.  On those papers there are some with info on, some with 'Scruples' questions on and some with latteral thinking questions on.  Those simple little packets of papers with the latteral thinking questions on have tought me how to think outside the box more than any schooling.
  

• beyondtheveil said on Oct 18, 2008....

  des- I found that out about Sharon Stone years ago in an interview, I think.
  
  7- I'm really not qualified to comment on whether they can do this accurately or not. Logic does seem to make one wonder how they could do it. I was just passing on what I found.
  
  skald- True. I've known some pretty average people who have done quite well.
  
  infernal- There are probably studies out there attempting to show effect of high IQ as opposed to the social graces. I know several professors (my daughter is one) and other people with high IQ's and they are as socially acceptable as anyone. I have also read, as I mentioned to mobil, of others who didn't work out at all socially.
  
  My guess is that the majority are as socially accepted as average or above average IQ people are. I just can't accept that they are socially disadvantaged. This gives me something to google.
  
  HH- No, sorry. But you can find many on the web. I've taken them for fun.
  
  pusscat- I think I mentioned somewhere that high IQ doesn't mean good common sense. I seem to notice common sense more in common intelligence, but I'll bet its because they need to rely on it more. Its needed in jobs of the average worker much more than a job a genius would have, isn't it?
  
  I've never taken a mensa test and don't see any reason to. I'm simply not a genius. Those rolling papers sound interesting. I'll ask around about those, if I can find anyone who smokes amber leaf.
  

• pusscat said on Oct 18, 2008....

  btv - "Its needed in jobs of the average worker much more than a job a genius would have, isn't it" .  That is sooooo true.  I think you've hit the nail on the head their.
  
  This was a brill post :-)
  

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