There are a lot of people's posts getting graffitied all over of late which is fine when you can block, then delete the offending amoeba however Alienated has bought up a very pertinent statement.
 
We need more control of our own posts, more specifically the ability to get rid of those amoebas and their droppings.
 
As I see it, we can all post a soulcasthelp post on the subject stating the exact nature of what we need/want.  Along with sending emails in BULK to the site admin email, along with our own posts... soulcast tend to only help when the cry is loud enough and this issue, as I see it, is big enough to warrant a little soulcast intervention.
 
So that little idea is out to the universe, lets talk the bigger issue here, as a community we need to agree, all of us, what it is in the bigger picture we need and WILL work with flushing soulcast's toilet of omeabic scribblers and graffiti artists... I know you can say everyone has a right to a voice, let me tell you something... Let them go somewhere else? huh?
 
So, can we put some some serious and logical sollutions to the greater issue whilst inundating soulcast help to give us the ability to remove all scum from our own posts?
 
Your thoughts please not tyrades, I don't want a death by commitee with people yarning on about their experiences, rather lets put down solid thoughts and ideas on how to resolve this little sewage overflow.
 
NB ~ All Amoebic filth will be blocked and deleted from this post - don't bother yourselves.


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  • hinana said on Sep 27, 2008....
    I personally have never had a problem, but then again I dont post often..I just read mostly and comment
    lots of sites though have the option of you being able to review your comments before they show up on your posts..thats a bit troublesome i guess, but it is less troublesome then having to delete a million comments and tags..and that way legit anons can still comment =)
     
    what do you think they should do?
  • Lucytorial said on Sep 27, 2008....
    Its a community run site Hinana and thanks for your comments.  By that I mean they want to leave it to us to sort the shit from the gold.  Those who wish to create insideous and hurtfull statements on other peoples blogs should be able to be removed from the whole site itself by those of us here who essentially run it.  (good folk like yourself that post without wishing or intending to hurt, harm or harrass others)
     
    Admin themselves won't do it, legal reasons don't enable them to shut out a person unless they are involved illegal activities or we can show due cause of their defacement of ourselves not just here but in real life eg: harrassment.
     
    I'm not up with the technical aspects thats why I'm asking for help too on that side.  I simply don't understand how the site itself is managed on that level.
  • hinana said on Sep 27, 2008....

    nono. i dont mean for the admins to screen comments. i mean for the users to be able to do so..they can have the option of doing so..like myspace? i guess that migth be a bit of work to set up..

    but if u cant completely block those users completely this just seems to me to make the most sense.

  • Lucytorial said on Sep 27, 2008....
    What I'd like to see is not so much screening comments prior to them showing up, that would ruin the feel here.  What we need is the added ability to delete tags ourselves along with registering to admin of a particular individuals filth and once a certain number of people log in to do that the filth is permenantly removed by way of taking note of their actual log in keys (its like a foot print on your computer) it stops them from creating alt after alt after alt to do it all over again.  Which is what we are seeing, a lot of alts under a select few sick individuals.
     
     
  • Expendable said on Sep 28, 2008....
    The reason we can tag via comments is so we can mark bad posts. I've seen the tag abuse. I don't know why SC isn't responding, but really for this we don't need them.
     
    When you get hit with this, delete the bad comments and post to SoulCast_Help which tags you need help removing and then everyone pitch in, clicking on the x's next to the bad tags. In no time at all, they'll be gone.
  • Twylarants said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Whatever you all decide is fine with me. What's the email addy?
    How many tags must a post  have before that "tag this post" box goes away?
    Some posts don't require me to tag before I can submit my comment.

  • pusscat said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Hi Lucy - this is a very good.  What Twyla just said is something that I only noticed recently, where the option to tag disappears.

    The only thing with allowing everyone to remove anything from their posts is that people can get very pernickity and finicky about what they wish to see on their posts and begin to remove EVERYTHING that they don't agree with.  As submissives, my friends and I often have to deal with comments from some rather ignorant folk but, that said, they do have the right to comment and it often gives us the opportunity to educate a little, if not for the original ignoramous but those that follow in their reading of our posts.  So, we tend to leave many of their comments on our posts by way of future education.  Sometimes, what can primarily be perceived as rude or useless comments, have often generated some really interesting debates.

    Then you get the idiots like the one that posted that video on MissMimi's post about the sad loss of Paul Newman (now removed thankfully).  That really was posted by an amoeba! (I love that description Luce lol) and definitely needed removing.  So I am not sure how far we should go with this.  I am very interested in the concept though and so will follow this post closely.

    pc
  • travelr712 said on Sep 28, 2008....
    i like your idea lucy, but i think people haven't noticed something. you can mark a tag as bad, and it will be removed from your post. it takes @ 15 minutes for the tag sweeper to activate, and i wouldn't change that if i were sc. i know that's true, because i cleaned several posts for myself and other people yesterday, and i timed it. which means you can clean bad tags from posts that aren't even yours. all you gotta do is click the X on the tag, and it'll disappear 15 mins later. i really don't see a problem with that myself. and you can block the account that put the bad tags on, so they can't do it again. i think that's plenty good enough, don't you?
  • E_Eyes said on Sep 28, 2008....
    [Quote] The reason we can tag via comments
    is so we can mark bad posts [Quote]

    there can be no such measurement or judgment     a uncensored post in a uncensored site carries no weight no definition       not good not bad
    just post     no weight no definition   
  • nytquill17 said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Trav - I don't think it's on a timer.  For as long as I have been here, getting rid of bad tags has always had to do with how many people click to remove it.  I'm not sure what the threshhold is for how many people have to click it though.  I spent half an hour trying to get rid of bad tags on one of my own posts once; the tags stayed put for well over 15 minutes, until other people came along to click with me.

    The person who hit the site yesterday hit every post on the front page.  That means there were a lot of people who saw those posts and tried to take the tags off.  I know I went through every single post that got hit and clicked every single bad tag yesterday and I know I am not the only one that did.  I think what you saw was not a 15-minute timer based on your own actions but rather the results of collective action of a lot of people trying to help out their friends.

    I think once a post has 25 comments or more, the option to tag goes away.  I think also you only get to tag a post the first time you comment on it; if you come back and comment again later you will not be asked to tag it again.

    ~~~

    Anyway, Lucy I think you have some good ideas and I understand where you are coming from.  The only problem is that in order to have "free speech" unfortunately it means we all have to put up with things that we don't like to see.  But the alternative to that is a slippery slope.  Because maybe what I don't like to see is different from what you don't like to see.  In that case, how do we decide which one of us is right?  Which one of us has the right to make decisions for the other one, to tell the other one what to accept and what to reject?

    You say that the good writers should have the right to kick the bad writers out.  And I agree there is a lot of crap on here that 95% of us would probably agree IS crap.  But for the rest...who decides who is a "good writer" who should have that power?  You? Me?

    Once we cross that line, we run the risk of SoulCast becoming not a place to express yourself anonymously, but rather a giant popularity contest.  What happens if two or three people take control and decide to oust everyone who isn't part of their clique?  Or who doesn't agree with their political/religious/whatever stance?  It becomes Survivor: SoulCast with everyone trying to secure alliances against being voted off, and no one really being themselves anymore.

    Every system has a flaw.  The current one has flaws, any potential new ones would also have flaws.  There is no such thing as a perfect government or administration.  I am not pro-pedophelia, I am not pro-trolls or pro-alts.  I'm decidedly against all those things.  But there is simply no way to get rid of them on this site without creating other problems that have the potential to be even worse for me personally or for the community.  I personally would prefer just to ignore the posts and authors I don't like than to have to worry about kissing ass all the time just to stay in the community.  I know you yourself would mean well Lucy, but not everyone here would be quite as noble about it as you, you know?

    And yes you can track and ban IP numbers - that is like banning an entire computer rather than banning an account.  But if someone is determined enough, and our trolls are quite determined, they can get around that.  You can mask your IP, I believe, or you can just use a different computer...go to the library or an internet cafe or something.  No blocking or banning system is foolproof and unfortunately the more resistance you present to people like this, the more it turns them on.  Once they know they are pushing your buttons they will just keep pushing them - that's the game for them.  The only way to do them any damage is to totally ignore them, act as if they weren't even there, don't make a big deal over it...just let them wither in the silence rather than giving them the attention they thrive on.


    But we NEED the ability to remove our own bad tags with one click.  I don't know how feasible this is server-side, but perhaps a system where we can remove bad tags on our OWN posts in one click and it still takes multiple clicks to remove tags from others' posts.  Because we don't want everyone to be able to remove any tag from any post with ease, then the alts would just come in and delete all the original tags people put on their own posts because they can.
  • travelr712 said on Sep 28, 2008....
    oh, maybe you're right nyq. but we must've all been clicking pretty close to each other then.
     
    i've been to posts where there are only 4 comments and i don't get the tag box, so i'm not exactly sure how that works either. but i do know you're right that once you've tagged a post, you don't get the tag box again.
  • evil_twin said on Sep 28, 2008....
    I totally agree that we should have the control to remove bad tags on our own posts, without needing to have help from other people. I never quite understood why other people were allowed to tag our posts anyway. I don't like that feature, because I'd rather control the content of the tags myself. But they should have a way for us to easily delete the ones we don't like.

    Personally, I think if you delete and block a commenter, their tags should immediately disappear as well. That would be a perfect solution. But for now, I guess we all just have to work together. I always click bad tags when I see them on other people's posts. And I know I'm not the only one who does it. And if I have bad tags on mine, I've got a group of friends I usually ask to help me out. It works, even if it requires extra effort.

    But I believe that you need at least 3 different users to click the tags. I've tried this in the past, and with me and 3 other users, we got rid of the tags pretty fast.

    -evil_twin LA
  • pusscat said on Sep 28, 2008....
    I have learned so much from what has escalated from this post!  I had no idea about clicking on tags etc!  One thing I agree with, is we should be able to remove tags from our own posts but I also believe it should ONLY be our own posts.  As an example, I friend of mine here could read one of my posts and put the tag 'Shit-face' (sorry that's really made me laugh!) One of you reading the post could see it as an insult and try to kindly remove it for me, when in actual fact, it could be a joke between that friend and me and not an insulting bad tag at all.

    I think that the very fact that Lucy created this post and everyone has kindly come along with suggestions, and it turns out you already help remove bad tags for others, just goes to show what an amazing community we really do have here.  We should be rather proud of ourselves.  It also proves that those amaebas out there will never really gain any ground here either. 

    My final answer is that I would like to see everyone have personal control over the tags on their own posts, but not on others. 
  • andora said on Sep 28, 2008....
    oh paleeze

    now you want to force an uncensored site to get into censoring the stuff you do not like?

    like, i said, where are the adults?

    go to a moderated board if you don't like reality!

    delete this...there now....don't you feel powerful!
  • andora said on Sep 28, 2008....
    i must apologize for marginalizing the tag thing after all

    i just read some of the stuff this 'it' is spamming here

    i'm sure it is Mr...happy face

    spamming bad porn

    must have been someone that was feeling bitter about being shunned

    shunning demons can create a haunting after all

    me...i don't dive into the darkness of porn to make my point because my nastiness is out in the open instead of morphing in the secrecy of the darkness

    mr. happy face has poor taste in women as well

    again, i apologize for the kneejerk ridicule about this very nasty haunting that SC is suffering from

    it would be interesting to see what the SC managers think about this
  • RollingC said on Sep 28, 2008....
    It's on some kind of timer....I just deleted on from my post but it took much longer than 15minutes.... at least 1/2 hr. 
    Maybe by computer is slow?
    Rc
  • andora said on Sep 28, 2008....
    i deleted mr. happy faces tags...it seemed to work

    the sexually frustrated person who is haunting this site is in the extreme position of energetic hemmoraging. the whole bi-polar phenom is an energetic arcing problem where the negative pole is in rejection of the positive pole.

    prior to collapse of the being that is in this chronic state of imbalance, the acting out escalates and ends with suicide or homicide or both

    these are, as a class of people, have manifested as a message to the whole group that the status quo is broken and perverse. we need to question our beliefs as a group...problem is that leads down dead end streets that are either religious or political

    this person is in a very bad position...it really isn't a joke...it sucks to be stuck in a nightmare such as that...this is the person i hope we all pray for as we delete all evidence of him/her

    i for one would welcome this persons voice if they were capable of having just one name...come over to andora's blog my friend, i will converse with anyone at all as long as you claim your pov and keep the same name...of course you cannot enter unless you let me know that you are mr. happyface:}
  • Expendable said on Sep 28, 2008....

    We have trolls trolling for fun, trying to get all the attention they can grab. Don't feed the trolls. What they do can be easily undone.

  • diabolicdame said on Sep 28, 2008....
    I'm with you Luce.. we need to be able to atleast delete the tags on our own posts ourselves! Today again all the posts on the first page were littered. What a waste of time!
  • pusscat said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Hi again Lucy

    My post was 'visited' also by 'Mr Happy'.  Wow - had a field day - you thought YOUR tags were bad LOL!

    I am so glad I learned about the clicking on the cross on tags (can't believe I didn't know that before).  I do have your post here to thank for that.  I clicked on the ones on my post and they were gone within 13 minutes.   So, it does look like I do have exactly what I wanted, to just be able to delete my own tags.
  • evil_twin said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Pusscat, you still can't delete those tags all by yourself unfortunately. You had other people helping you get rid of them (I was one of them!) That idiot hit all the posts on the front page today. Someone really needs a life....

    -evil_twin LA
  • thegayfuckup said on Sep 28, 2008....
    I successfully deleted this dickheads rude tags off of my post.  I just click the little x on the added tags I don't want and presto, immediately they were gone!
  • evil_twin said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Yeah, they disappear for you, but they're not really gone :-( If you click your post again, you'll see them still there. But today lots of people clicked the tags and we got rid of them. Your post was one of the ones I clicked tags on today too. The first time I ever tried to get rid of a bad tag on my post, I thought it went away too. But it only disappears for a second, and then it comes back unless other people do it for you too.

    -evil_twin LA
  • tonibell said on Sep 28, 2008....
    I'm just so new at  this that I can't say I really know all your talking about. I did notice a tag I didn't put on one of my 3 posts. And have found myself wondering whats the deal with the tags. I understand what your saying . I'll follow.
  • Lucytorial said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Okay some suggestions were given thanks everyone.
     
    While I note this is an open site I wasn't talking about writers with good or bad content I am talking about Amoebas that post about other people here, harrass and disturb.  I'm all for free speach, you don't like don't read cool!
    As for the tags, I'd much prefer to be able to get rid of it myself, I'm not here 24/7 to delete them, I rely on others which is great that they help but if I see a bad tag I shouldn't have to wait for a period of time or even a number of clicks for it to be removed.
     
    Also ~ Ex you are correct, I know, that creating a focus is going to give them power however we and Soulcast have told us this, WE are pretty well the ones who control the site.  So why can we not have the control to evict in essence serial amoebas, free speach can take place anywhere.  Once again its all about definitions.
     
    As for taging a post its about the number of tags you originaly use along with a specific number of commentators.  its stops as mentioned above at a certain level.  (Five is the maximum you can have yourself when posting)
     
    Thanks everyone, just wanted to catch up the idea was good but falible in essence.
     
    And or no-thing... Why such a defensive stance???
  • pusscat said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Kyle - thank you so-o-ooooo much for helping to remove those awful tags from my post.  I don't mean to sound needy or anything folks, but I never realised that anyone had been helping me with those things.  I mean, I do understand that many people don't know or understand about my submissive lifestyle and I got quite paranoid that some of you may even think they were meant to be there LOL!  I know, I know, silly me.  So again a BIG THANK YOU

    pc
  • Lucytorial said on Sep 28, 2008....
    Pusscat ~ Know one thing here, what you do and what you like to do with your life is yours to enjoy, there aren't many of us here willing to judge you a good example is Mobil's comment on one of yoru posts, I read that post too only didn't know how to comment.
     
    Its not my thing but it sounds like you are very much enjoying your lifestyle.  If you asked I would have helped remove the tags too, I'm not trying to judge others here, there are however and you would have come across this, people willing to hurt and insult just for the fun of it or out of ignorance.  most of us here are not like that.
  • pusscat said on Sep 29, 2008....
    Thanks Lucy!  One thing i have realised here is, like you say, the majority are fantastic.  The way we all stick together too to beat the idiot brigade works.  I was really touched by mobil and RollingC's comments.  It's nice to know i put a smile on their faces :-)

    Now you. . . . you always manage to put a smile on my face with your posts no matter what sort of day I've had.  I always know when I see your name against a comment it's going to make me chuckle too!  You are one tough cookie (with a soft centre) funny, sassy lady - don't ever change.
  • Harpie_brat said on Oct 03, 2008....
    I think something should be done.  I haven't been able to sign on until tonight and was greeted with some nasty tags on my post.  I didn't put them there so obviously someone else did.   I ended up just deleting that post.  How were they able to do that?  How can we protect our own posts from people hacking them?
  • Lucytorial said on Oct 03, 2008....
    Harpie ~ If you need help deleting bad tags then ask your friends, it takes about 15 min.

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