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I think I figured out something very important today. Or maybe I've known it for a long time and I'm just finally willing to admit how it has affected my life?

I have always gone after desparate women. Let me qualify that. They were desparate for love. They wanted to be loved, they wanted to feel like they were loved, and they were willing to jump immediately into a relationship with me because of that. But the problem was, they were not in love with me, they were in love with love, and I was the guy in front of them that was providing it for them. So after a couple months, all the 'annoying flaws' of mine started to really bug them, and they would begin to try and transform me into a man they could love, so they could still have the love, but with a man they actually liked. And in truth, I did the same thing with them, because I did not really love them (except for my first wife, but I was young and nieve, and she never really loved me).

This is true for every woman that has ever had a romantic relationship with me, except des. Des loves me for exactly who I am, and always will, and the same goes for me to her. But she also had a desparation when we met, so much so that she was willing to accept an impossible situation, 5000 miles, different cultures, timezones and an ocean between us. Maybe that's why we still love each other? It's that the love is real, but the problem is that we can't be together to live it? Anyway, we're really good, close friends now, and I think we always will be, and I'm happy with that.

So, I wanted love, I wanted to give love, so I'd just jump right into a romantic relationship with any woman that would have me, because I didn't want to put the time and effort into developing that relationship. I wanted it to be like in the movies. You meet, you fall madly in love, and you live happily ever after. But you know, they never show you that couple 5 years later. You never find out if they actually DO live happily ever after. And it's just a movie anyway, just a representation of how some of us wish it were, want it to be, not really how it is in real life. Besides, I'm an engineer. I am because of the way I think, which is to cut out all the supurfluous stuff, just put in there what you need to get the job done. Everything else is just too complicated, hard to maintain, breaks down all the time, costs too much, is overkill. So why go through all that dating, friendship, getting to know them crap when we're just gonna end up in love and happily ever after anyway? Besides, I don't have time, I'm desparate!

I think I've finally figured out what all that other stuff is for. And you know what, maybe if I go into it without the desparation, without expecting the happily ever after, I might just start a different kind of relationship, one that will last?

Oh well, the other way never worked for me, so what the hell, give this one a try, right?



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  • beyondtheveil said on Sep 10, 2008....
    trav- Interesting thought. I realized a long time ago that I never truly loved a woman including my ex until I met my present wife. I didn't even know how it would feel until meeting her. I had placed myself as a confirmed life long bachelor even at that rather young age.

    There wasn't any of that 'investment crap' you mentioned with my wife. In a matter of days I had lost the bachelor thinking and didn't even know it had happened until later. We flowed quickly into a marriage with no desperation on either side. It just felt so natural to both of us.

    I think when you find someone who doesn't even make you wonder if she's the one, just is, she's probably the one. And I have no idea if that makes any sense to you.
  • travelr712 said on Sep 10, 2008....
    well ya, it does beyond. in fact, that's how it more or less happened with des (too bad there's an ocean between us). that was a great way to put it.
  • pickersplock said on Sep 10, 2008....
    Best of luck to you, it sounds like you're on the right track!
  • travelr712 said on Sep 10, 2008....
    ty pickers. does this track ever stop at the sex depot?
  • fragglesrock said on Sep 10, 2008....
    Travelr - I had the movie rendetion, you know the ending there...
  • travelr712 said on Sep 10, 2008....
    it somewhat inspired this post fraggles
  • Fallyn said on Sep 10, 2008....
    i have vowed not to be desperate.
    sometimes it's desperately hard.
  • Lucytorial said on Sep 10, 2008....
    I think that's why my marriage has lasted so long Trav, 13 going on 14 yrs now.  We started as best of friends and remained that, the love, sex and intimacy came later and is very much the hard part of the marriage.  I think you are spot on, when you invest time in a relatinship / friendship the dividend is that you learn so much about yourself without the need or onus of becoming someone else.  You remain who you are.
  • travelr712 said on Sep 10, 2008....
    ya know fallyn, you and i have a very similar way of expressing ourselves in writing.
     
    and i'm beginning to like who i am too lucy. i'm an ok guy, ya know?
  • Lucytorial said on Sep 10, 2008....
    I always knew you were an okay guy Trav.
  • travelr712 said on Sep 10, 2008....
    well, that's one person... :-P
  • wombat said on Sep 10, 2008....
    Your words made me think about some past relationships that flopped for me---and this all really does make sense.  It's a shame that it's so hard for two people to find each other and start out on the path right from the start, without all the false expectations.  But sometimes it does happen--and I hope it does for you. 
     
  • travelr712 said on Sep 10, 2008....
    well, i'm not really looking for that anymore wombie, which from what i've always heard is when it happens :-D
  • Twylarants said on Sep 10, 2008....
    Good for you for figuring it out, Trav. Loving someone shouldn't include changing them to fit your needs. I was married twice before my current marriage, and everybody wanted to change me! I don't get it. How do you fall in love with someone if you don't like them enough to let them be who they are?
    Nope...don't get it. That's why I never believed in marriage. I only married because it was what you did in those days. If I were a young person in these times there's no way in hell I'd marry.
  • travelr712 said on Sep 10, 2008....
    ya twila, that's what i'm thinking too! but i think i was just as guilty as everyone else. being in love with love isn't the same thing as being in love with another person, is it? and i've pretty much settled on the same view of marriage myself. it's just a way for lawyers to get rich.
  • Twylarants said on Sep 10, 2008....
    Exactly! Maybe it's me and my skewed way of thinking, I don't know. Sure, it's nice to be wanted, nice to have someone to do things with, blah, blah, blah...tho at my age, who cares, ya know?
    But if you're young, jeez, there has to be all kinds of people out there to date, not seriously, like friends with benefits.
    The first time I heard of "friends with benefits", I thought "well damn! I was so born in the wrong decade!"
    I guess I just a big ol' unromantic at heart.
  • destinydiva said on Sep 11, 2008....
     that was a really nice and eye opening post :-) ..I wasnt desperate tho!!! actually when I met you, I was in 'thats it I am not searching anymore'  mode!! ...tho they do say thats when love finds you ;-) xx
  • travelr712 said on Sep 11, 2008....
    i figured you'd disagree with me about that des, but that's ok. i didn't mean desparate in a bad way. i meant desparate to be loved. i could have said it 'really, really desiring to be loved', but it just doesn't have the same effect, ya know? interestingly enough, i was saying the same thing you were at the time :-)
     
    the term has morphed into 'f**k buddies' twirley. unfortunately, i'm too old and from a different era, so that doesn't work for me. :-(
  • scipio said on Sep 11, 2008....
    Interesting to read how romance blossoms into love and then onto marriage. 
  • lionesss said on Sep 12, 2008....
    Trav, reading this reminded me of a relationship i had once, it was on the rebound off my marridge, i thought to myself who would want a single mum with 2 kids so i jumped into a relationship, i didnt know hardly anything about him but i was very good friends with his family ''actually my mate was with his brother'', but like you say you get on really well 1st, and you think your in love, i was with him for 3yrs, and slowley i realised we had absoulty nothing in common, it was like i was more like his mum, but he came along when i was at a all time low, i still see him around and we staid mates but looking back it wasnt right from the begining, oh well hopefully i will find love but not just yet,,~~lionesss x
  • travelr712 said on Sep 12, 2008....
    it doesn't usually happen that way scipio, i guess this is just the way that it should happen for me?
     
    one other thing i think i've figured out lioness, love is very personal, as it should be. it is something different for every human soul that has ever existed, or will exist. it is the one thing we can truely call our own.
  • queenparanoia said on Sep 13, 2008....
    that really sucks... falling in love with love... but i admit i use to be like this... use to be because i realize it's not enough to make a relationship work.... i hope you find the love youre looking for trav... ;-)
  • travelr712 said on Sep 13, 2008....
    oh qpdoll, you know that if i lived in the phillippeans, i'd be with you in a hot second! ;-)
  • queenparanoia said on Sep 13, 2008....
    trav: hehehhe i dunno if you like an immature girl like me!!! iw hine a lot!!! ;-)
  • travelr712 said on Sep 13, 2008....
    bah, whining doesn't bother me, as long as the sex is good :-P
  • queenparanoia said on Sep 13, 2008....
    queen: wahahhahhaha i dont have experience in that area!!!! ;-)
  • travelr712 said on Sep 13, 2008....
    the best way to get experience is to practice often qpdoll ;-)
  • Twylarants said on Sep 13, 2008....
    f**k buddies? Hee hee!
     I mean HOW CRUDE!!
  • travelr712 said on Sep 13, 2008....
    LOL twirley, i know! too bad i can't find one...
  • queenparanoia said on Sep 13, 2008....
    ;-)

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