• secretlife said on Sep 06, 2008....

  I agree with you.  Neither Obama nor McCain live lives the we do-
   
  The fact that McCain served his country lets me know he understands how to live with less........with nothing really- he was a POW or 5 yrs....
   
  But reading that his wife wore a $300K outfit the first night (including earrings, dress, pearl necklace, watch and shoes) made me CRINGE!
   
  I think that's why Sarah Palin is so appealing-  she is a working middle class mom-  she's not wearing designer outfits and doesn't understand when asked about her clothes....I truly believe the winner of this election will be the candiates that the joe and jane citizen can relate to- 

• GnawingDog said on Sep 06, 2008....

  Before we get all wet in our undies...
  
  "The fact that McCain served his country lets me know he understands how to live with less" is rather absurd when you find out he was an Admirals son.
  
  "she is a working middle class mom"
  
  Hum... No...
  
  The notion of where a dividing line between "middle class" and "working class" might be is an elusive one. In November 2003, Chris Baker of THE WASHINGTON TIMES reported in "What is middle class?" that the Census Bureau shows the middle 20% of the country earning between $40,000 and $95,000 annually. The Drum Major Institute for Public Policy, a non-partisan and non-profit organization, reports that the middle class has conventionally come to mean families with incomes between $25,000 and $100,000 each year.
  
  The term middle class in more colloquial language use may refer to all those individuals who might at one point or another be identified as middle class, as they occupy neither extreme of the socio-economic strata. Most of those with households income between $40,000 and $95,000 identify as "middle class."
  
  Because...
  
  If you include the permanent fund dividend that Alaska distributes to its residents as a way of sharing oil tax revenues, the family made about $225,000 last year (Sarah's income as governor was $125,000).
  
  Jon Stewart's take on McCain's acceptance speech

• GnawingDog said on Sep 07, 2008....

  Some news you may, or may have not, read...
  
  Alaskans Speak (In A Frightened Whisper): Palin Is “Racist, Sexist, Vindictive, And Mean”
  
  September 5, 2008 | by Charley James | The LA Progressive
  
  “So Sambo beat the bitch!”
  
  This is how Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin described Barack Obama’s win over Hillary Clinton to political colleagues in a restaurant a few days after Obama locked up the Democratic Party presidential nomination.
  
  According to Lucille, the waitress serving her table at the time and who asked that her last name not be used, Gov. Palin was eating lunch with five or six people when the subject of the Democrat’s primary battle came up. The governor, seemingly not caring that people at nearby tables would likely hear her, uttered the slur and then laughed loudly as her meal mates joined in appreciatively.
  
  [...]
  
  Besides insulting Obama with a Step-N’-Fetch-It, “darkie musical” swipe, people who know her say she refers regularly to Alaska’s Aboriginal people as “Arctic Arabs” – how efficient, lumping two apparently undesirable groups into one ugly description – as well as the more colorful “mukluks” along with the totally unimaginative “f**king Eskimo’s,” according to a number of Alaskans and Wasillians interviewed for this article.
  
  But being openly racist is only the tip of the Palin iceberg. According to Alaskans interviewed for this article, she is also vindictive and mean. We’re talking Rove mean and Nixon vindictive.
  
  [...]
  
  “The GOP is kind of like organized crime up here,” an insurance agent in Anchorage who knows the Palin family, explained. “It’s corrupt and arrogant. They’re all rich because they do private sweetheart deals with the oil companies, and they can destroy anyone. And they will, if they have to.”
  
  “Once Palin became mayor,” he continued, “She became part of that inner circle.”
  
  [...]
  
  “People who fought her attempt to oust the librarian are on her enemies list to this day,” states Anne Kilkenny, a Wasilla resident and one of the few Alaskans willing to speak on-the-record, for attribution, about Palin. In fact, Kilkenny actually circulated an e-mail letter about Palin that was verified and printed by The Nation.
  

• bloc said on Sep 07, 2008....

  I look at it a bit differently. McCain has virtually no experience in the private sector and he was born into a family of high level officers (his father was an admiral I believe). He's been sucking the government tit so long he would starve without it!
  
  And your saying is more fitting for McCain in my eyes.
  
  

• GnawingDog said on Sep 08, 2008....

• KathQuiet said on Sep 13, 2008....

  Gnawingdog, I'm not sure I'm for Sarah Palin at all.  You'd think, being an achiever of things I should and could have "if only," that she'd be a sure bet in my book, but she's not.  Something in her eyes and almost sneering smile make me very uneasy and because of that the comments you referenced...well...I can believe them.  I work in a historically white small town on the edge of Denver and you should hear my co-workers sometimes.  It's even "funnier" when they're trying to act like they're not overtly biased against other ethnicities and people who don't follow "the dress code."  If it weren't so sickening, I'd laugh. 
   
  Get this, I'm as white as they are skin-wise but that's about where the similarity ends.  Growing up in the inner city teaches you people are people.  There are some cultural differences ethnic and otherwise, but the bases are the same. The cultural differences make being human fun. 
   
  Anyway, thanks for all the interesting info.  It's a tough year to vote.  I don't like Obama and his smugness.  McCain, admiral's son that he is, has also known work.  His father earned their government milk, which is different from having supped on programs for nearly an entire existence.  Now, to make it clear, in some ways Obama is a great success story of programs working, and to a lesser degree, so am I, having taken Pell Grants to cover a fraction of my college costs.  So, I don't know how I am voting.  I'm asking for assistance from the Continuum on this one. 

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