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It's been awhile since I've posted anything about my gay life so here's a current events update. 

I'm about as 'out' as one can be.  Strangely now, there are no issues about that sort of thing.  Over all my life is very normal.  The majority of my friends are from the other side of the fence and I rarely venture into the gay world.  I have a few close gay friends.  We tend to socialize in small groups.  An occasional dinner out, a barbecue, a movie or live theatre maybe once a month.  Beyond that it's all very low key.

There is one exception.  I do belong to a group known as The Big Mens Club.  Its a social group for big men and their admirers.  We have a weekly coffee out evening and plan various events.  Although I'm a member I seldom go to any of the events or even the coffee.  I do  keep email contact with a couple of the members and they let me know whats coming up next.

This was a long weekend here in Alberta.  My options were to go to a school reunion and have a visit with my mom or stay home and work on the house.  I lost the option a bit when the workmen decided they would like to get some more done through the weekend.  I just feel better if I'm around when they're here.....just in case.  So I stayed home.  I did get an email saying the Big Mens Club were going to a Sunday brunch would I like to join.  That sounded like a good idea to me.  I knew it would be a small group and it would be good food and lots of laughter.  (What else would you expect from the Big Men....we're jolly fat guys.)

Uncharacteristically I was about 5 minutes late.  When I walked in there were five people I know and two new fellows.  The remaining seat was beside one of the new fellows.  To put it mildly there was electricity!  Major currents moving between us instantly.  That's a rare treat for me.  I dont often meet someone who is so obvious about liking me and to whom I am equally attracted.

Now I'll tell you his story.  He is an officer in the Canadian Navy and was on his way from his posting in Halifax (east coast) to his new posting in Victoria (west coast).  He is an admirer of big men and knew about our group through internet contact so decided he would stop and meet the gang on his way through.  He is totally handsome, fit, incredibly charming and French Canadian to boot so he has an enticing accent.

The group had a really enjoyable time.  My friend was travelling with a companion (not lover) and they had plans for the afternoon.  Not wishing to horn in and also knowing I needed to get home and oversee things I suggested some of us might like to meet later in the evening for supper.  Lets' give this man a name....we'll call him Guy.  Guy accepted immediately as did three others and of course his travel companion.

We met at the appointed hour and had a rather pleasant meal of Vietnamese Noodles.  Throughout supper it was even more evident that Guy was interested so I quietly asked if he'd like to go for a drive later.  Without hesitation he accepted.

That's when he told me his story.  As gay men we tend to talk about our former relationships while we establish who is available.  I am breathless at his history.  In brief, his lover was killed in an auto accident about two months ago.  His pain is palpable.  Accompanying the loss of his lover is total rejection from the lovers' family.  He was allowed to attend the funeral but the family would not give him anything even as a memento.  They have made it abundantly clear that they want to completely erase any trace of the relationship these two men had.  They wouldnt let him have even a key chain or an ornament!

I'm furious!  Guy is having a horrific time trying to grieve his loss.  He is terrified that they might have been text messaging at the time of the accident.  How can people be so incredibly, unbelievably, cruelly inhuman!

Oh, before you ask, no I will not fall for him.  This is no time for him to look at a new relationship.  He is vulnerable and in terrible pain.  Instead I will be there for him.  I'll listen to him when he needs to talk.  I'll visit him in Victoria now and then just to let him have a sounding board.  I'll be his friend.  Then perhaps someday....................?



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  • beyondtheveil said on Aug 04, 2008....
    bot- Considering the way they treated the officer, it also makes me wonder how the family treated the other man while he was alive. It would make me far more furious if they rejected him in life. We humans have a long way to go, don't we? 
  • quietone said on Aug 04, 2008....
  • quietone said on Aug 04, 2008....
    I can't believe SC just ate my comment!!!! grrrrr.  
    As I was saying........ It was a nice surprise for you to find a new friend at the big mens meeting.  :)   Also so nice of you to be there for him in his time of grief.  that is just awful that his lovers family would do such a thing and just "erase" him like that!!!  Now you have a new friend, and another reason to escape to the west coast and Victoria is such a nice place in the summer time.  and like you said...... one day... who knows.  :)  this was such a nice post botoni, thank you for sharing.
  • woman said on Aug 04, 2008....
    What a sad story your new friend shared. It must have been a shock to hear. And I HATE the way his partner's family treated him! You're right of course to give the man some time to grieve but perhaps you have found a new friend, no matter what the outcome. It's not always easy to find the right person in our lives, gay or straight. One of my brothers is gay, recently ended a long term relationship, and is having a tough time finding someone new in the small town where he lives . Me. Straight. Married. And often still dreaming of a different situation for myself. I think Guy is lucky to have met you Bot. Tragedy aside, he sounds very interesting.
  • RollingC said on Aug 05, 2008....
    That's a sad story.  Sounds like the family had a hard time accepting the fact that the man was gay. 
    I can relate to that as I remember when my sister came out of the closet so-to-speak and my parents acted like they'd been stabbed in the heart.
    When my younger brother from dad's second marriage called me out of the blue years ago I felt that he wanted to tell me something.  It took a couple of calls but he finally told me that he was gay.
    Now keep in mind that I remember him since he was 5 or so and love him dearly.  But with time one gets older and has more understanding so that night we had a long talk and finished it with me giving him my support.  I can't admit that I like it but I also have to accept that he has the right to live like he wants and bottom line it's his happiness that counts for me. Isolate him from me or the family is the last thing that I want.
    Apparantly the family of that man has some issues to deal with when it comes to accepting others and their wishes.
    Rc
  • queenparanoia said on Aug 05, 2008....
    yeah i agree be a friend first... maybe romance would blossom in the end... wooohooo finally i get excited about your love life... ;-)
  • dailyachesandpains said on Aug 05, 2008....
    Bottie...Awe!  Poor Guy!  I'm so glad that you're going to be there for him.  What a horrible thing for him to have to go through with the family.  That's just so sad.  Mr. Daily got nothing from his step-monster.  Well, he got the hat his Dad wore all through Chemo and she gave it to him like it was something that Mr. D. would actually wear.  Mr. D. doesn't even like to look at the hat as it's a constant reminder of his dad's pain and death.  I guess if there has to be a bright side, it's that he's the ONLY child that got "something" of his dads.
     
    You're such a sweetie, botti!  We all know that though :-)
    {{{HUGS}}}
    Daily
  • wombat said on Aug 05, 2008....
    See...if you'd gone to the school reunion you might have missed meeting a new friend.  That stinks that he was treated that way even as he was going through a time of grief.  It's nice for him that he has met yet one more person to help him cope.  I'll try some of those Vietnamese noodles.....sounds good!
  • pickersplock said on Aug 05, 2008....
    I think it's wonderful that you've found a new friend.
     
    That really stinks about the family, though.
    This guy is very lucky to have found you!
    Karma's at work again!
  • botoni said on Aug 05, 2008....

    Beyond.....I hope as humans we at least keep progressing.  While 'B' was alive only one member of his family was supportive in regard to his being gay.  His other siblings just ignored the fact.  At least they didnt completely reject him.

    Quiet....Thank you.  You're so right Victoria is beautiful (and I think it just got a little bit nicer). 

    Woman.....Living in a small town when one is gay is tough.  Finding a compatible partner there is even tougher.  I hope your brother lucks out and finds Mr. Wonderful.  You have a heart that gives out wonderful love to your children and I hope someday in a good manner you will feel that overwhelming romantic love.

    RC.....Your younger brother is a fortunate man to have you.  Being able to know that our happiness is important to those who care about us makes a huge difference in how we feel about ourselves.

    QP......Thank you.  I'm sure you would like Guy.

    Daily.....Mr. Ds' step-monster has earned her title.  Cruella had nothing on her.  What a hideous thing to do!  Yaaaaaaaargh! 

    Wombie......Families can go both ways.  Some are incredible and others are incredulous.  I hope you try a Vietnamese noodle house.  There are two typical noodle dishes.  One is 'pho' which is a soup with a mass of noodles and small amounts of thinly sliced meat.  The other is 'bhun' which is more like a bowl full of vermicelli again with small amounts of meat.  Both are delicious.  I usually choose rare beef for pho and shrimp paste with spring rolls for bhun.  I'd love to hear your reaction to them.  (You might steer away from the ones with tripe). 

  • botoni said on Aug 05, 2008....
    Just a brief update.  Guy and his companion 'V' left early yesterday to drive Calgary to Vancouver.  V was complaining about a pain in his back and took some robaxicet before they left.  By the time they got to Revelstoke (half way) the pain was so severe that they went to emergency.  V was given a shot for what was diagnosed as a type of sciatica.  The pain didnt lessen but they continued on to Vancouver with frequent stops to get out and allow V to stretch and walk.  Guy phoned at 1 AM to let me know they had finally reached their destiny 5 hours late.  By now they are on the ferry crossing from Vancouver to Victoria.
  • uniquely-ironic said on Aug 05, 2008....
    I'm glad you had the chance to meet this man.  He sounds wonderful.  It's horrible the way his lover's family treated him.  I cannot believe that in this day and age that people are still so repressed. 
  • tbs230 said on Aug 05, 2008....
    oh Bot, I hope that someday happens soon!! He sounds like such a nice man!! And let me tell you, the best relationships start out as friendships!

    The family is terribly wrong for do what they did, and they will regret it. Who else would know about the man, if not the person he was seeing??

    Thank you for the update!
  • MissMimi said on Aug 05, 2008....

    I'm very sorry for Guy's loss, and absolutely appalled at the actions of his partner's family.  Grief brings out the absolute worst in some people. 

    But I also think that he is very fortunate to have met you.  Whether it progresses beyond friendship or not, I know what a good friend you are, and that's priceless.  :)

    Thank you, botty.  As always, a wonderful post.  {{{hugs}}}

  • Eilan said on Aug 05, 2008....
    I hope karma bites Guy's partner's family in the ass.
  • hugecock! said on Aug 05, 2008....
    Women are great.Some guys cock in the butt ....OUCH! most people try to get stuff out of there,not stuff things in. Gerbals are not to be used iether.
  • Eilan said on Aug 05, 2008....
    I think hugecock! would be a great candidate for a cock in the ass.  His head seems to fit up there well enough.  ;)
  • botoni said on Aug 05, 2008....

    Hey Pickers.....You must have been commenting as I was responding.  Thanks.  I think Guy is just a terrific man.  He's lovely on the outside but he is a total treasure inside.  One of those rare people who has a glowing personality loaded with care for others.

    UI.....The stories I could tell!  That's the down side.  The upside is that it is waaaaaaaaaaay better than it used to be.  Progress is happening.

    TBS.....That family is nuts in my opinion but I'll cut them a bit of slack because they are grieving too and people do the strangest things in reaction to loss like that.  I hope for Guys' sake they come around.

    MissMimi.....You flatter the hell out of me sometimes.  Thank you.

    Eilan.....I hope they wake up and see how ugly they are being and make amends....that would be way better than revenge.  Dont worry about HC....he's lost in his own ego.  It's terribly difficult to tell if he means his appendage is big or that he is big dick himself.

     

     

  • the_infernal_optimist said on Aug 05, 2008....
    Agreed on all counts, Eilan.

    Bottie, I'm so glad you met Guy. He could use a decent, caring friend right about now, and you're right. Maybe someday!

    ((hugs))

    It's hard to hear about anyone being mistreated, but what happened to Guy really is appalling. It's bad enough to lose a lover like that, but then his grief had more anguish dumped on top by the family...that's just horrific.

    It sounds like once he is able to really grieve and attend to his loss, there's definite potential. If nothing else, you've gained a friend, and that's never for naught. :)

    ~Infernal
  • crybabylu said on Aug 05, 2008....

    I found this story maddening!  It was his choice!  I wouldn't dream of treating a relative the way, I bet you they treated theirs.  Let alone his lover.  If anything, I would have embraced him and tried to learn more about my relative from him.  Who knew him better, than his lover? 

    My nephew is gay, in fact, he used to blog here but hasn't for a time (dancingdiva), and we have embraced the both of them.  (he and his significant other)  We wouldn't dream of not including the both of them in our lives.  They both come to all family functions, and we welcome them both with open arms.  We hug them and tell them how much we love them, both of them.

    If something should happen to my nephew, we would be right there asking if there was anything we could do for his partner. 

    This is truly a sad story, and I hope that people soon grow up and stop judging!  I am glad you were there for him, and hope that the two of you will become good friends.

  • botoni said on Aug 05, 2008....

    TIO.....I'm with you and thanks for agreeing.  Guy is a man who will definately be a friend in good standing forever.  He's just that kind of person and I'm priviledged to have met him.

    LU........I've read dancingdiva in the past and enjoy his posts.  I think it's great that he and his partner have such a wonderful family around them.  That family support really enhances any relationship whether it is gay, straight.....(or right weird)....hehehe

  • wombat said on Aug 05, 2008....
    I doubt if I could find a Vietnamese noodle house near here, but anyway--I should have just joked, "Pass me some."  Ha.  But the "bhun" sounds good!  I forgot what "tripe" is, but I am guessing it is tongue?  Or is it something else?
  • botoni said on Aug 05, 2008....
    Wombie.....tripe + intestine.  Someday you'll visit a larger center and you'll find Vietnamese noodle houses everywhere.  They usually have PHO in their name so that they are easily identified.  The broth for pho is a clear broth much like consume or beef broth although it has a slightly richer taste because of the cooking method.
  • wishyouwerehere said on Aug 05, 2008....
    Hi Botoni -
     
    I am glad to hear that you have made a new connection, although the circumstances of the recent past inspire more compassion than romance. 
     
    When I was in my early 20s, a close friend of mine passed away (HIV).  His family excluded his partner from the wake and funeral, hurting all of his friends very deeply.  It was bad enough losing one - having his partner there would have been a bigger comfort.  I made the wake but was also excluded from the funeral - his mother told me that I was not welcome because if I had been a "better woman," my friend would not have been gay and he would have never contracted HIV!  We held a more inclusive memorial service later on - something that suited his life and spirit much better than the one that excluded his partner.  Maybe Guy will find a way to memorialize his loss in his own unique way as time goes on - even without a memento, no one can take away the connection of souls.
     
    Some people are caught up in their own ugly delusions.  That alone can be karma.  Anytime you allow hate to occupy that much of your heart, you are missing out on lots of love.
     
    I wish you all the best with your new friendship - WYWH
  • wombat said on Aug 05, 2008....
    Ha.......!  Tongue or guts....what a choice!
     
    (actually I have had chitterlings  (chit'lins) so I have already had guts!
  • zaneamorphous said on Aug 06, 2008....
    thats horrible how they treated him!
    but it is wonderful to have a new friend, i hope everything works out!!!

    <3 zane
  • botoni said on Aug 06, 2008....

    Wish....He has found what I think is a wonderful way to memorialize his lover.  His lover had a wolf tatoo.  Guy chose to have the same tatoo, done by the same tatoo artist.  He travelled thousands of miles to get to the same artist.  I think it's a super healthy thing for him to have done.

    Wombie.....I've done them too.  Some folks are a bit squeemish about them.  I'm not tremendously fond of them but they go down ok.

    Zane.....welcome to my blog and thanks for the comment.  I've just been over to your blog and signed up as a reader.  I think I'll enjoy what you write.

  • silverwhisper said on Aug 06, 2008....
    eilan: you, my friend, are awesome! :>

    botoni: i'm so sorry to hear that about your acquaintance. some people obviously are just too stupid to understand that human pain does not respect race, religion, creed or orientation. i cannot imagine how painful his experience is.

    ed
  • botoni said on Aug 06, 2008....

    Tonights update.....

    I did something I've never done before.   I gave Guy a link to come here.  He has read all of your comments (with the exception of yours Ed because you just got here).  He is very moved that there are so many expressions of care.  All your kind words have touched him and I believe you have given him something more to grasp.  Thank you all!.

    Ed.....His pain is huge thank you for acknowledging it.

  • Fallyn said on Aug 07, 2008....
    so so hard.
    as i have said at least twice tonight.......sometimes people really suck. *sigh*


  • botoni said on Aug 07, 2008....
    Fallyn....Thanks for reading.  It is terribly hard.....but to counter that thought reading the comments above sometimes people really rock too.
  • GEORGEBUSHSUCKS said on Aug 07, 2008....
    Don't ask,don't tell is how Bush wants it.Adam and Eve or Adam and Steve? (keep it secret?)
  • Eilan said on Aug 07, 2008....
    I thought "Don't ask, don't tell" was part of the Clinton legacy? It probably doesn't apply to Canada, anyway.
  • hotaka said on Aug 07, 2008....
    Oh, botoni. Your story is very interesting but I do feel for the poor Guy. People can be very cruel when they don't know how to deal with their own feelings about things they feel uncomfortable about. It is good you and Guy got to know each other and become friends and you are one heck of a decent individual to recognize his pain and offer yoru support. Yes, perhaps one day. But for now you are doing the best thing for both of you. I wish him well in his recovery from his loss.
  • skald said on Aug 09, 2008....
    How very cruel people can be. He does not get even a little ornament to remember him by. I am so sorry.  You are a good guy Botoni and I know you will stand by him.  
  • botoni said on Aug 09, 2008....

    DBS...Since we are Canadians we dont have to deal with the George Bush policy so directly.  The policy in the Armed Forces in Canada is one of tolerance with no harassment tolerated.

    Eilan.....You got it right.

    Hotaka....Hey buddy!  Thanks for the words of encouragement. 

    Skald....Thanks for reading this when you've just gotten back to your PC.  I know Guy will appreciate your comment.  He's away from a connection for a few days so I dont know when he'll get to read it.

  • Alyss said on Aug 09, 2008....
    I wish we all lived in a better world where people were treated with dignity irrespective of beliefs, backgrounds or orientations. It's good that you were there for him now and possibly in the future also.
  • botoni said on Aug 09, 2008....

    Ed....I apologize.  Somehow I missed your comment.  I'm sure Guy appreciates your kindness.

    Alyss.....Utopia is what you're describing.  It sure would be nice if we could get a little closer to it.

  • botoni said on Aug 09, 2008....

    Todays' update...........

    Guy is enjoying a weekend with his brother and family in Vancouver before heading to Montreal.  After another trip to emerge 'V' was more correctly diagnosed with shingles.  The medications have been quickly effective and he is much more comfortable now.  He isnt near to an internet connection so he wont get a chance to read all your comments here.  When we talk to tonight I'll try to read those he hasnt yet seen to him.  He is very moved by the kind expressions you are all giving him.

  • FutureGoddess said on Aug 10, 2008....

    Hi Bo - "Guy" sounds great!  Regardless of what your happens, it sounds like you made a great new friend. Although, knowing how hard it is to meet a great man - even for a single gal like me <grin> - I hope that when he has recovered fully from his grief, he sees what a great gentleman YOU are and the friendship deepens.  As you said, only time will tell.

    As for "Guy" - my deepest prayers are with him at this time.  May he find the comfort he needs in having friends like you and V.  All the best.

    FG

  • botoni said on Aug 10, 2008....
    Goddess.....Guy is really a very sweet man with lots of lovely characteristics.  Right now the mission at hand is to be there when he needs support and a caring ear.  He'll be pleased to read your words of comfort.
  • silverwhisper said on Aug 19, 2008....
    botoni: o, you didn't miss me, you already included me, but thanks as ever for your hospitality!, sir. :>

    ed

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