• crybabylu said on Jun 25, 2008....

  People fall in love, if you are in true love you dont see the color of the skin or care. You dont see what people think around you because you dont care. Having relationships is not about color but about the heart and you will find that not everyone agrees, but one should follow their heart if at all possible.

• theduke said on Jun 25, 2008....

  Some people still do not like it- but that is the way the world goes-

• anonymous said on Jun 25, 2008....

  IF they act like good young men- I don't care what color their skin is-
  Times are changing- things are not perfect, but we as a society are honestly trying to overcome the bigotry and meanness that was the accepted norm of the past.

• woman said on Jun 25, 2008....

  Race is such a huge subject that I find I can't really comment in a sentence or two. I think I will have to write a post of my own. Here I will just say that people are people. Period.

• curmudgeon said on Jun 25, 2008....

  I'd actually like to hear what an African-American woman has to say about black men dating white women.
   
  The answer may be surprising.

• crybabylu said on Jun 25, 2008....

  curmudgeon----This one is such a tragic story in itself.  The young man's dad was black,and mother white, both killed in a car crash a few years ago. He is being raised by white grandparents, he and his younger brother.

• crybabylu said on Jun 25, 2008....

  thank you for your comments, duke, anon and woman.  Will be back to say more to you later individually.

• Eilan said on Jun 25, 2008....

  I don't have a problem with it.
  
  It's still not completely accepted where I live, unfortunately, but people generally aren't openly hostile.  They might whisper behind the couple's back, though.
  
  My dad thinks it's okay for a white man to date a black woman, but it's not okay for a white woman to date a black man.  I don't even argue with him because there's no assailing his "logic."

• dailyachesandpains said on Jun 25, 2008....

   
  I'm totally fine with it. Where we live, nobody that I know of cares what color someone's skin is.  Inter-racial relationships aren't frowned upon.  Mr. Daily's step-sister married a mixed race gentleman.  Nobody saw it as anything but two people in love.  People are people no matter what.  We're all the same at the end of the day.
   
  Daily

• davidstar said on Jun 26, 2008....

  The only folks who still tend to get wound up about it are folks over 50, ultra-conservatives, ultra-religious,
  
  Don't hang around those idiots and they'll be fine.

• cuppajava said on Jun 26, 2008....

  As you know, I was married to an Indian girl for 13 ,nearly 14 years.It is strange that it was the Indians in thsi country who always had a problem with it and not the whites.i think it comes form the 'olden day' and still too many people walking around with the 'old school' mentality
  I cant stand it
  
  

• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  It may just be me, but I think the truest test for prejudism is ask someone if you mind if they marry your daughter?  If the prejudism is there, that will surely make it surface.

  My God is a colorful God, and he made people in different colors, that is that. Underneath, we are all the same....and if a person doesn't believe in God.....then this is what I say.....all of us humans have all things in common, makes no difference what color, size, volume or package we come in....

• EQUALIST said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Hi Crybabylu
  I don't post here anymore, because no one reads me.....
   
  But, Quite some time ago I did write a blog on this subject.
   
  Here's what  I had to say.......
   
  (I hope you won't delete it)
  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   
   MY POSITION ON INTER-RACIAL MARRIAGE!

  I am  a huge fan & supporter of inter-racial marriages, something which still meets with strong , but muted,  disapproval in far too  many circles, even now, in our allegedly “enlightened” 21st century America.

  Miscegenation is a great way to defeat racism through the power of love and it also creates bi-racial and multi-racial children, whom our society should  cherish and welcome as being full fledged members of both (or all) of the races they can claim a lineage of descent from.

  Now, I’m well aware that it doesn’t work that way in real life, at least not today, for a lot of people.

  But I firmly believe that it should & could with the right kind of social engineering and public re-education.

  I myself am half black (on my mother’s side) and half-white (on my father’s side) and I look like (and am often mistaken for) an Hispanic.

  You know, one of my very favorite old movies, is: Imitation of Life, a 1934 film adaptation of Fannie Hurst's 1933 novel by the same name.

  There have been several remakes of the movie, but I like this original version best.

  Among many other things, Imitation of Life tells the story of a young light skinned bi-racial woman named Sarah Jane, who is born to a black mother but (because her father was white) has skin  light enough  to make it possible for her to pass as a 100 % white person.  

  One of the movie’s major plots is about  Sarah Jane’s  encounters with the dominate white culture of the late  30’s  early 40’s , which was much more overtly racist and supremacist at that time then it is today.

  Her experiences teach this young woman early on to hate her black side, and to pretend to be only of one race.

  Indeed, there is a scene early on in the movie, (when the young woman is still a child) where she proclaims: “I want to be white”. 

    As she starts going to school, Sarah Jane pretends to be 100% white around her new found friends, but, her mother (who is undeniably black), keeps showing up, in front of her classmates and friends etc. Making it exceedingly difficult for her to keep her true identity a secret.

    Adolescence finds Sarah Jane continuing to attempt to pass for what she’s not.

  She begins dating a white boy who severely beats her after learning she is half black.

   Some time later, Sarah Jane passes as fully white in order to get a job performing at a seedy nightclub, and lies to Annie (her mother) telling her she is working at the local library.

   When her mother (Annie) learns the truth and appears to claim her daughter, Sarah Jane is fired, and her subsequent dismissal leads her to hatefully spurn her mother’s love.

  So, in a scene that never fails to bring tears to my eyes,   Sarah Jane tells her mother that she must never see her again, and that even if they pass each other on the street, they must act as though they are perfect strangers.

  This of course breaks Annie’s heart, but she complies with her daughter’s wishes.

  Shortly thereafter, Annie is taken ill and dies, presumably of a broken heart.

  Annie’s funeral is given in a large church, complete with a gospel choir and a parade-like procession with a horse-drawn hearse.

  In another heart wrenching scene, just before the procession begins, a remorseful Sarah Jane tears through the assembled mourners and throws herself upon her mother's casket, begging her mother’s forgiveness for having rejected her.

   This movie points out  what a truly evil thing racism is, because it can lead people to hate and dis-own their own blood kin, and ,perhaps even more tragically, it can teach them to hate an intrinsic, and inescapable, part  of who and what they are.

  A song by the famous singer, actress and entertainer: Cher, entitled “Half-Breed” also touches me, because it deals with the subject of a woman who is contending with her bi-racial ancestry.

   The song tells the story of a young woman who is half white and half Cherokee and the troubles she faces with rejection by both sides of her family on account of racism. 

  According to the lyrics white people often called her "Indian squaw" and the Native Americans never accepted her because they told her that she was "white by law."

  THIS KIND OF BIGOTRY IS A CRIME AGAINST HUMANITY!

  And, the only way to stop it is to punish racial exclusivity and to teach children from infancy onwards, that they should always and everywhere reject the concept of “otherness” as a matter of course, and embrace people of all races as their brothers and sisters in the human family.

  If we start doing that, then inter-racial marriage and miscegenation will become wonderful means for uniting all people together as one.

  FOR IN TRUTH, THERE IS ONLY ONE RACE, THE HUMAN RACE!     

   

  
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• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Of course I wouldn't delete that.  That is a wonderful post!  Thank you.

• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Eilan, duke, anon, daily, woman, curmudgeon, david, java, equal----Thank you all for taking the time to read and comment.  It is much appreciated......dee.

• hottips4u said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Nope, not into it, don't support it, what others do is their business.
  
  jessi
  

• hotaka said on Jun 26, 2008....

  My wife is Japanese. I am a white Canadian. And our son is just so darn CUTE!
  Sure I support mixed racial marriages. Hear, hear!
  

• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Thanks for your comment Jessi.

  Thanks hotaka...

• anonymous said on Jun 26, 2008....

  What are your thoughts on this?  Don't you think it is alright for the two of them to date?
   
   
  Be FOREWARNED!.....any RACIST    or   stereotyping  remarks  will be DELETED!!!!
  
  
  its clear your biased crybabylu but why ask others their thoughts if you limit an honest answer?    no way to answer you without appearing racist unless supportive of your personal bias    loaded and slanted as this post is    it is prejudice itself
  

• Eilan said on Jun 26, 2008....

  A girl who grew up in my neighborhood has three children: a daughter from her relationship with a white man, and two sons from her relationship with a black man.  Her mother once told my mother that she "can't love" her biracial grandsons.  "Can't love," to me, implies that she hasn't even made the effort because she can't get past her own biases.
  
  And she wonders why her daughter rarely comes home for a visit.
  

• hinana said on Jun 26, 2008....

  I have no problem with it, people are people.
  Being Indian though, and having most of my older relatives born and pretty much raised in india, I have heard a lot of prejudism towards other races: these people are like this, these are like that.
  It makes me mad, but I cant change thier mindset.
  I personally would not choose to marry another indian guy simply because my family is almost too much for me to handle, and I dont want another huge indian family to deal with.
  I do realize however, that if I do marry someone whos not Indian, I will hear gossip, I will hear rumours, and I will get a billion snide comments.
  But if they cant get their head around tht that person is an individual and not a stereotype for whatever they are, then thats thier problem and not mine.
   
   

• WalterMitty said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Crybabylu-

  I'm curious-what were the excuses he offered without actually saying the real reason.

  Race is still an issue with more people than we think. It comes up in different contexts that we're not aware of.

  I was listening to the radio this morning-they were interviewing twelve undecided voters about the upcoming elections, I'm not going political on this- just giving the circumstances.

  Seven were former Clinton supporters-six of them were going to vote for Obama.

  The one that wouldn't gave many excuses (Obama/Osama, his middle name is Hussein etc.) and then he mentioned that if elected, there would be a 'black agenda' which would create more riots here in the states.

  None of the other twelve (including the others leaning towards McCain) agreed with his position.

  *Again, I'm not being political right now (plenty of time for that later in other posts,vote for who you think is best for the country). I'm highlighting that this poor man's racism was starkly evident. 

   Sadly, it's still part of the fabric of our country. My own father-in-law once stated that the only thing he couldn't tolerate was if his daughter brought home a black man.  The memory of that still makes me cringe.

  It's been human nature to be fearful of differences, real or perceived.  It is the twenty first century-the best thing we can do is to challenge our family and friends when they make those statements.

  I applaud you for standing up for your grandaughter.

• WalterMitty said on Jun 26, 2008....

  coward. idiot.

  If you're going to post something stupid, offensive, and off topic.

  At LEAST have the stones to sign your name...

  Thank you for being part of the problem, enjoy your ignornance.

• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  WalterMitty----Thank you for your comments.

  I know her grandpa well, since I was married to him oh so long ago, and I was not surprised at all, and wish she hadn't even mentioned it to him, because she didn't even need to hear that.  She was seeking support, not the opposite.

  He still uses that lame excuse that the Bible says for everthying to be with it's own "kind", and I have argued time and time again that---that is a misuse of that scripture.

  It is obvious, that is refering to "species".   human with human, birds with birds, etc.  but like I say, the best test for prejudice is if someone of the opposite race wants to date or marry your daughter, etc.

  He has many Afro-American friends, and friends of other races, so he doesn't think he is prejudice, but I have always believed him to be so, by remarks he has made in this area, from time to time, when he would see a bi-racial couple, etc.

  The problem as I see it here, is that she is closer to him and his wife, than she is to me, so I know his comments will have an affect on her decision whether to date this individual or not.  My daughter and I really like this young man. He is quite a good person, whom we would welcome with open arms.

  WalterMitty----Thank you for your comment.  I deleted the comment that anon made, that you answered to, but I appreciate your attitude.  Thank you, dee.

• obliviously-loved said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Pleased by your excitement. Sweet really!
  I don’t think anything of it though. This is nothing new and shouldn’t, in my opinion, made a big deal of. Were all human right?

• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  obvious----Some of the people I know, haven't made it into the 21st century yet, so that is why I am addressing the issue here on my blog.

  I also have a "small group" that meets in my home once a week, and we discuss issues such as this, because there are a wide range of issues the group deals with on a daily basis, so they look forward to coming together and discussing their various issues.

  This particular on hasn't come up.  This came up as a resulf of my granddaughter asking for opinions from the family, because I think she was seeking support before entering into a relationship with someone of a different race.

• hottips4u said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Well Dee, at least she's getting multiple opinions, some of those who are in bi racial relationships, some that were in bi racial relationships and now someone who would not be and were not in a bi racial relationship.
  
  I know both types of individuals.  Those that would for whatever reason, and, those that wouldn't for any reason whatever.
  
  Matters not to me what others do with their sex lives, what color it is, or if its in a barn or the local spca.  Leave kids alone and I don't care if women want to stretch their asses over a two liter bottle of pepsi, no coke, I like pepsi...hehe
  
  But thats where I stand, simply because I would or wouldn't as an individual shouldn't be a gage in another individuals life or lifestyle.
  
  There are many genetic reasons to consider as a mature woman simply to ignore.
  The medical evidence and a stronger desire to stay with my own race in order to preserve it for generations to come, is from a pride of my people and in my mind, I honor them by remaining with our people and raising my children, also of the same race of people.
  
  Other than personally refusing to have sex outside my own people as a native American female, I believe what others decide for themselves is their right as individuals, at least here in America.
  
  Making it an issue at any time....is never hard to do irregardless your personal position on the matter.
  
  Jessi
  

• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  I told her where to find this post, but she is busy elsewhere, and says she will check them later, so I emailed them to her.  Haha!

  The problem is that she has already moved on....and I can't help but think it was her granddaddy's remarks that did it.  Too bad, I would have liked to at least seen them get a little bit better acquainted.  He is a good young man, and sometimes good young men are hard to find.

  Thanks for the comments Jessi, and everyone!

• EQUALIST said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Crybabylu

  I just want to tell you, that, not only do I fully agree with you on this issue.

  But furthermore, I believe that inter-racial marriage &   inter-racial sex & miscegenation can ultimately save the world, by teaching us all to love one another regardless of our skin color or any other differences whatsoever...

  There's an old song that has the refrain:

  WHAT THE WORLD NEEDS NOW, IS LOVE, SWEET LOVE.

  NO, NOT JUST FOR SOME, BUT FOR EVERYONE.

  And those words perfectly express my views on this issue.

  And ,by “EVERYONE”  I  mean  EVERYONE   regardless of their race creed  color, class, nationality, handicap,….or any other distinction whatsoever.

  Someday, perhaps less than 500 years from now, “races” so called, may no longer exist, as we know them today, thanks to the high-----and ever increasing ----- rate of   inter-racial breeding……

  When that glorious day comes, it will be a new dawn for equality!  And a tremendous victory over one of the most ancient evils of all time, namely: racism.

  Because,  there won’t be any more “white”  or  “black”  or “ brown”  or “Asian”  or “ Native American”  or whatever…..

  There will just be…. People …human beings who all belong to the same race: The Human Race.

  .And , perhaps too ,  by that time  (if  future generations  can be taught to  reject ALL other forms of “otherness”  as well ), humanity will have learned to judge each individual by the content of their character, rather than by the color  of their skin or any other outward features.

  In, other words, bigotry may cease to exist in the human heart and mind!

  Anyway…..Much sooner than that……

    The white race is going to be a minority in the U.S.A., perhaps by as early as 2050……

  Perhaps then, we will see some truly progressive changes in our society because of that ,  such as the elimination of racist immigration policies,  an end to racial profiling by the police…..And the elimination of “defacto segregation”  in housing, education and employment etc. etc. etc.

  Well....go ahead and delete me now if you think my statement sounds too radical, or absurdly utopian, or both….

  ...At least I've expressed my views to you on this important matter.  

   

   

• hottips4u said on Jun 26, 2008....

  DEE :  Therein is the ignorance of a bigot.  Leave it, please.  That persona was made to ignite your post into a racial flame war.   
  
  But leave it because it does more than that.  It get directly to the focal point of interracial conversation.
  
  Always, even I am repeatedly called a racist based upon my refusal to breed outside of my race or to do so for what some identify as recreational sex (wonders how closely recreational skin popping of heroin is related ? : / ).
  
  That being said, it appears to be a consensus of those who favor inter racial relationships always tags those that prefer otherwise as racist  based upon that one single issue.  If you were a Green person would you mix with a blue person...no ?  Racist.
  
  I wonder now from having this conversation how many women of all races has been fed this propaganda ? 
  
  Moreover, how many stupid women in an effort not to viewed as a racist by her friends and associates is pressured into experiencing an inter racial situation simply to be accepted as well ?
  
  I do not believe that by refusing to sleep with someone not of your choosing is racist as much as it is individual decisions on lifestyle based upon personal choice. 
  
  Based on that type of faulty reasoning (hottips wont have sex with a green man she's prejudice and racist) every human is racist if for no other reason than he or she hasn't laid at least one of every race on earth !
  
  Counter statement of recreational sex title holder  :
  
  I am not a racist, I have slept with a black man, a white man and a yellow woman how dare you called me a racist.
  
  My reply...what Arabs are....dirty ? No dicks ?  Native RedSkin Americans not good enough ?  Oh so you hate the Mexican huh chica ?
  
  Just seems ironic that race based conversations always seems to hinge upon which will you do sexually ? All races ?....(not racist) ; Some races  (somewhat racist) ; or.... One race ?  (definately racist) !
  
  My answer :  Am I to automatically hate you if you don't fork the pork ?
  
  Hottips4u 
  
  
  

• hottips4u said on Jun 26, 2008....

  When that glorious day comes, it will be a new dawn for equality!  And a tremendous victory over one of the most ancient evils of all time, namely: racism.

  Because,  there won’t be any more “white”  or  “black”  or “ brown”  or “Asian”  or “ Native American”  or whatever…..

  There will just be…. People …human beings who all belong to the same race: The Human Race.

  
  

  _________________________

  Ya know, glad ya cleared that up.  Here all this time I considered myself not only human, but also a part of the human race.

  
  I've owned and used some right oddly colored dildo's .... some with the colors of a rainbow !   Does that count ?  No ?  Still not human huh ?
  Damn  : /
  
  Hottips4u
  
  jessi
  

  
  

• crybabylu said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Thanks, no I wasn't going to delete it, I understand that way of thought. I have run acrosss it before, and see the angle at which that perspective is gained.  I, myself have no desire to see complete integration as an agenda.  If it happened naturally, it happened, however,  I do see the sense in preserving the different races and cultures also, because we gain much understanding from diverse groups of people.

  We don't want universal "sameness" we want to learn how to value everyone's different races and cultures.

  I know it sounds like I repeated myself, but that is how the thoughts came out.

  In conclusion, I am just saying.  However people come together, is fine by me, but not in a forced way to try to blend everyone in so we all can get along.  I want us to get along because we have gained tolerance, and understanding.

  Thanks everyone.  I think this was a good discussion.....:-)=dee.

• EQUALIST said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Thank you Crybabylu....I respect our differences of opinion  on this issue, but I still think you and I are both more or less on the same page when it comes to racial equality.

  Hottip4u, I did not mean to suggest that you are not human.

   

  How could you ever get such an idea???

   

  What I was trying to say, is that some day   (centuries from now) “races” as we know them today, will one day become extinct as a result of the ever growing trend of racial inter-breeding, and the acceptance of miscegenation by more and more people, across the globe. Provided, of course that this trend continues unabated over the next few several hundred years….

   

  And, at, the thought of that prospect, I cannot help but clap my hands in joy!

   

  THE SOONER THE “RACES” ARE THOROUGHLY INTEGRATED & BIO-GENETICALLY    "HOMOGENIZED "(FOR WANT OF A BETTER WORD), AND A UNIVERSAL MULTI-CULTURAL - CULTURE EMBRACED BY ALL!

  THE SOONER NEAR COMPLETE EQUALITY BETWEEN ALL HUMAN BEINGS WILL BE ACHIEVED!

   

  NOW!   I KNOW YOU ARE A BIT OF A TROLL, JESSI   (I’VE BEEN AROUND HERE LONGER THAN YOU THINK!)  …..SO, GO RIGHT AHEAD AND TRY TO TURN THIS INTO A FLAME WAR OVER THE RACE ISSUE!

   

  I REFUSE TO FEED INTO YOUR LITTLE GAME!

• hottips4u said on Jun 26, 2008....

  The white race is going to be a minority in the U.S.A., perhaps by as early as 2050……
  
  Your words and 2050 is not hundreds of years down the road.
  
  Different persona, same as Frit and Expendable however.
  
  You've been here no doubt since the base was turned on and loose, I wouldn't doubt that at all. I also know the usefulness of a full dedicated server and have been discussing the abuse of such services with a congressional associate as well as an Attorney Generals office staff about the pitfalls and anonymity of such domains.....Its just a matter of time before international agreements and laws grasp hands and mine for parasites such as yourself and couple others here, imo, are on cnn one morning.  That will be a tasty bagel that day.  ; )
  

• EQUALIST said on Jun 26, 2008....

  You are a complete nutter Jessi!

  You'd make for a great study in paranoid delusions.

  Please, let's not do this on Crybabylu's blogsite......

   

   

• hottips4u said on Jun 26, 2008....

  If I have to put up with you while I am here then by all means, she can have you and her post.  

• hotaka said on Jun 26, 2008....

  I don't think there is any pressure to breed inter-racially. You are not a racist just because your mate is the same skin colour as you. But if people want to be with someone of another colour it should not be an issue. I think that's what most of us here are saying.

• EQUALIST said on Jun 26, 2008....

  Believe it or not Hotaka, that's ALL I’m saying too!

   

  The only difference is that I’m projecting  where  that  trend towards acceptance of miscegenation might lead  for the whole of humanity in the distant  future .

   

  But, honestly, I have no problem with people of the same race, marrying and having children.

   

  Such a personal choice  should ALWAYS  be left up to the individual! 

   

   

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