• firesky said on Jun 21, 2008....

  you raised me to believe in God, and I am thankful for that!

• papajack said on Jun 21, 2008....

  I wasn't raised to believe in God, in fact, at times, I thought in my home, they were almost agnostic. I found him when I was 19, and it changed my life for the better.

• anonymous said on Jun 21, 2008....

  No, my parents are agnostic and I grew up with an open mind, allowed to make my own decisions about religion. I pity those who have religion forced upon them from a young age-it is what I would call brainwashing.

• crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

  My home growing up was a little disfunctional because my dad suffered trauma from world war 2, and had flash backs.  We were taught about God, and I do believe that is a factor in me having enough faith to see me thru my childhood.  I strayed from my faith for 10 yrs. when I was adult. I think I was curious about how the other half lived. I came back to him 20 + yrs. ago and even tho I have had my ups and downs in life, I still believe in him, and am thankful for my upbringing.

• chevron said on Jun 21, 2008....

  My mother believes in God and did when I was growing up. I grew up without a dad, but am not going to go into that. Mom never pushed her believes onto me, I just used to hear her pray at night, and she went to church, and we did say grace at meals. I am an atheist.  I believe in logic and proof, and there is no proof there is a God.

• quietone said on Jun 21, 2008....

  no, I didn't know much about God until I was older. My family didn't talk about religion or faith.

• kumarilata said on Jun 21, 2008....

  Yes, I was, and I am thankful everyday. I don't know what I would do if God was not part of my life today. I also value that my fiance believes like I do. We both have a strong faith.

• sheltercrow said on Jun 21, 2008....

  I was raised to think.
  
  God... Hum... the original concept of god, in the west, comes from the hearth gods of the Greeks. Does any of you know what the hearth gods represented? Does any of you know what that disk behind the head of the saints represents?

• SeanRenaud said on Jun 21, 2008....

  I was raised to believe in God.  I grew up though.

• crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

  The circle symbolized Hestia (and her counterpart, the Roman Goddess Vesta) as the "complete" goddess, the goddess who was whole, "one complete within herself". Hestia was seen as, not only psychologically "centered", but also as representing the center, the center of the home and family, the city, and even the world itself.

  The source of Hestia’s sacred fire was believed to be the molten lava that burns at the center of the earth, connected by an “umbilical cord” called the Oomphalos to the city of Delphi, a place of great wisdom and spiritual energy.

• crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

  ( In answer to sheltercrow's question)

  halo

  Radiance encircling the heads of saints and holy persons in art. It is also called an aureole, especially when surrounding the whole figure.

  It may have originated in Egyptian art, where the Sun god Aton was shown with the disc of the Sun shining behind his head. There are also stories of Christian saints being transfigured with a shining face, similar to the transfiguration of Jesus.

  The halo occurs in Hindu, oriental, and classical art, and has been used in the West as a symbol of sanctity from about the 5th century. As an attribute of power, it figures in Byzantine art in representations of Satan and other great powers of evil. Many Roman emperors are represented with radiating diadems or haloes.

  The usual form of the nimbus is circular; sometimes it is formed by concentric circles, or indicated by a straight line or by rays diverging from the head. A triangular or cruciform halo marked one of the three persons of the Christian Trinity. A square nimbus denoted that the person represented was still living. The nimbus was usually of gold, but sometimes of other colours. After the Renaissance it became lighter, almost melting away into the picture. Haloes on statues may have their use as a protection from fouling by birds, especially when they lie flat on the head

• anonymous said on Jun 21, 2008....

  YES, raised protestant. Reject Christianity entirely. I was an atheist for a while, now I am a Pagan and a Thelemite.
  
  I admire atheists, but I've had some spiritual experiences that move me. I far prefer atheists to Christians though, except for Gnostics, they are OK.

• theduke said on Jun 21, 2008....

  I was raised in faith, and it has only grown with time. every time i read the Bible, my faith grows even more.

• anonymous said on Jun 21, 2008....

  nobody in my family believed in god---- i knew god was real before anyone told me -at the age of 3 he sent angels of protection around me  believe me, i had to have protection from somewhere in the environment i grew up in.

• Eilan said on Jun 21, 2008....

  Yes, but for reasons that would take forever to go into here, I now consider myself agnostic with atheistic leanings.

• crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

  Eilan----It is no wonder more and more people I run across lean that way. There are so many denominations, and some of their doctrines are confusing!

  When I got into my 30's I had to completely "unindoctinate" myself.  I went back to the basics, and I am telling you, I took that Bible and decided I was going to read and read and read, till I found what made sense, because I was about to pitch the entire thinking if I couldn't find out for myself, what I believed, and not what other people tried to force on me.

  Now, I just simply believe that there has to be something more than just ourselves, and that I choose to live by universal principles that enhance our lives, such as the law of "love".

  Thanks for commenting. I appreciated reading your thoughts.

• crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

  firesky-----I shared with you my way of life, but I hoped that you did your own homework, because I did not want to push my beliefs onto you.

  papajack-----I am glad you found God, and that I found you, because you have been an added blessing in my life.

  anon----I don't think that any belief system should be forced on anybody. We all need to learn to think for ourselves.

  chevron----Would be curious sometime to know how you came to not believe, having grown up with a religious mom.

  quietone----Glad you found out on your own, and have a support system.

  kim----I remember all the things you have shared with me about your faith, and I think you are right-on!.

  sheltercrow----I am glad you were taught to think. I believe you are a very intelligent person and a deep thinker. Thanks for sharing.

  Sean---You have shared somethings with me from time to time, and I understand why you think how you think. If it works for you, and it seems to, then I can't fault that.

  anon---To each his own.

  Duke----I'm glad you had the upbringing you did, especially since I also had a hand in it!

  anon---I'm glad to learn that you found protection from some troublesome times.

  Thank you all!

• anonymous said on Jun 21, 2008....

  Yes. I was raised to believe in the Christian God. The one who judges, condemns, gets jealous, can't be known by man, loves everyone and sends everyone who doesn't dance to the right tune to burn in hell.
  
  And when I grew up and started thinking for myself, I chose to believe in Divine Intelligence. I am still defining and redefining what that means to me, but so far it means that we are all One. There is nothing that is not a piece of Oneness. We are God and God is Us. We are Oneness in human form. We are where we are and when we are because this is what we chose to experience in this form. We are all a work in progress.

• dancingdiva said on Jun 21, 2008....

  I was raised in church and chose to believe in God.

• sheltercrow said on Jun 21, 2008....

  Back to my point. The Halo behind the head of the saints was a symbol of Sol Invictus ("Unconquered Sun").
  
  Constantine decreed (March 7, 321) dies Solis—day of the sun, "Sunday"—as the Roman day of rest [CJ3.12.2]:
  
  

  On the venerable day of the Sun let the magistrates and people residing in cities rest, and let all workshops be closed. In the country however persons engaged in agriculture may freely and lawfully continue their pursuits because it often happens that another day is not suitable for grain-sowing or vine planting; lest by neglecting the proper moment for such operations the bounty of heaven should be lost.

• sheltercrow said on Jun 21, 2008....

  There is little difference between pagans and Christians. There is just an assimilation.
  
  According to the New Catholic Encyclopedia, 1967, article on Constantine the Great:
  
  

  "Besides, the Sol Invictus had been adopted by the Christians in a Christian sense, as demonstrated in the Christ as Apollo-Helios in a mausoleum (c. 250) discovered beneath St. Peter's in the Vatican."

  
  The date for Christmas may also bear a relation to the sun worship. According to the scholiast on the Syriac bishop Jacob Bar-Salibi, writing in the twelfth century:
  
  

  "It was a custom of the Pagans to celebrate on the same 25 December the birthday of the Sun, at which they kindled lights in token of festivity. In these solemnities and revelries the Christians also took part. Accordingly when the doctors of the Church perceived that the Christians had a leaning to this festival, they took counsel and resolved that the true Nativity should be solemnised on that day." (cited in "Christianity and Paganism in the Fourth to Eighth Centuries", Ramsay MacMullen. Yale:1997, p155)

• sheltercrow said on Jun 21, 2008....

  From The Ancient City by Numa Denis Fustel de Coulanges
  
  From Chapter I: Notions about the Soul and Death
  
  "Go back far as we may in the history of the Indo-European race, of which the Greeks and Italians are branches, and we do not find that this race has ever thought that after this short life all was finished for man. The most ancient generations, long before there were philosophers, believed in a second existence after the present. They looked upon death not as a dissolution of our being, but simply as a change of life."
  
  "The rites of sepulture show clearly that when a body was buried, those ancient peoples believed that they buried something that was living. Virgil, who always describes religious ceremonies with so much care and precision, concludes the account of the funeral of Polydorus in these words: “We enclose the soul in the grave.” The same expression is found in Ovid, and in Pliny the Younger; this did not correspond to the ideas which these writers had of the soul, but from time immemorial it had been perpetuated in the language, attesting an ancient and common belief."

• Fallyn said on Jun 21, 2008....

  i was raised to believe in god.
  parts of my  parents religion made a lot of sense based on the bible and some of it really didn't. i still follow the teachings of christ for the most part as i believe they do lead to a better life for all people.
  
  my choice to leave the church and to deny a belief in god was a long soul searching drawn out process in the midst of abuse and mental illness.
  now that i have come out of the abuse and mental illness i am reviewing my decisions with a saner outlook to make sure i didn't make a mistake. but so far i've found nothing to change my mind.
  
  my beliefs now are closer to a combination of native american culture and buddhism. and some of my own findings and feelings.
  the faith and belief in the rightness of these grows stronger every day.
  
  
  

• openclose said on Jun 21, 2008....

  I was raised to believe in God in a Southern Baptist church.  I no longer believe.   I believe there is a higher being but am not sure what that being may be.  My family, especially my sister, is not comfortable with that, but they respect me.

• TinSoldier said on Jun 21, 2008....

  A simple question with a complex answer I guess.
  
  My earliest religious memories were attending church and singing "Jesus Loves The Little Children" and "Jesus Loves Me This I Know" and the like.
  
  Then I remember getting in trouble for wearing red jeans to church -- my nicest pair at the time. It was a Lutheran church.
  
  My dad, who raised me, was/is agnostic. When I was a pre-teen and teen I went to church on my own, along with my little brother. It was a Methodist church. I went at first mostly because they had free donuts on Sunday. My brother and I would sit near the front for the sermon and then go to the refreshments afterwards.
  
  I even acted as an usher on a few occasions, and some older ladies paid for me to go to church camp one year. Oh, what memories!
  
  Also, I talked to a pastor regarding becoming a pastor. I kinda thought that God was calling me...
  
  Anyway that went by the wayside eventually. I, personally, am somewhat agnostic. I don't believe in the supernatural or in life after death. I believe in the possibility, even the likelihood of a "God" so maybe that makes me a theist instead.
  
  I find it difficult to say that "I am not a Christian" though, since I still cling to many of the professed ideals of Christianity.
  
  So that's how I was raised and who I am, spiritually.
  

• sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....

  Cry... how many children should be killed? Dont ask who's children that is racist. How many?

• sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....

  Mans/womans choice is what? What is the choice?

• sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....

  Mans/womans choice is what? What is the choice? If there is one thing

• sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....

  a gaff? what? get rid of those. lol

• tinaslut said on Jun 22, 2008....

  No, I was not. I was raised to look critically upon things, to question them. That is why I am not a believer the way you mean. Of course I believe in something. You believe in what you call God, I believe in the eternal power.

  http://tinaslut.blogspot.com/

• hottips4u said on Jun 22, 2008....

  "Survey: How Were You Raised?"

  
  and....
  
  Were you raised to believe in God?
  
  Thats two questions.
  
  1.  As an American Indian in a land that is no longer the America I was born into.
  
  2.  No, I was not raised to believe in a God.  Yet I grew to learn you can not trust in those who do at a young age.
  
  If it's done in the name of a God, then most likely its because someone else is ashamed to use their own name in the endeavor.
  
  Jessi.
  
  

• sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....

  Man's mind created god and the need for god. How on earth has it become such a delusional appendage?

• hottips4u said on Jun 22, 2008....

  Delusional nothing !  Grave intent and nothing less than. 
  
  Some humans, in fact most imo, could and would never accept that their birth and ultimate death was nothing more or less than the cockroaches ultimate demise as he passed beneath the keyboards "G" in God ..... just nano bits ago.
  
  I just wish more would concern themselves with the here and now rather than on how one came to be or where one was going....
  
  Hottips4u.
  
  jess
  
  
  

• sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....

  There is no 'how one came to being' without the crime of that being. Being, as concerns humans, is so genocidal, that if you gathered a concourse of specie it would indite humans for crimes against life itself.

• hottips4u said on Jun 22, 2008....

  There are those already at such a stage and are currently killing themselves over and over again each day, everyday here.....
  
  that if you gathered a concourse of specie it would indite humans for crimes against life itself.
  
  humanity isn't an indictment against itself....as it is it's denial of natural instincts or rather ....even the desire to thwart them any longer after peering up the microscope....and seeing
  
  
  

• KathQuiet said on Jun 22, 2008....

  Disjointed, that's how I was raised.  We were informally taught to believe in God. There were many casual discussions around the table about my parents' church experiences as children, Old Testament stories, brief New Testament discussions, the Lord's Prayer on a napkin holder on the table for years, annual watching of all the biblical epics, three or four versions of the Bible, a beautiful antique book of Old Testament stories (sold to a collector when a bill needed paying) and a lot of talk about come-uppance (that's big with New Englanders) and other fatalisms. 
   
  Oddly enough, though, both my parents were disenchanted with their respective churches.  Mom, who'd earned her own bible by attending the Gilford Community Church Sunday school without blemish for an entire year, expressed disillusionment because after her father died in the 1947 the church did nothing to help her mother get along although she had four of nine kids still at home and was the church organist.  I'm not sure what sort of help was expected, or what sort of fill-in programs existed in those days, but none of the family was ever church-going afterward.  I don't know if Grandma continued to provide music to the church or not. 
   
  Dad who was born and raised a Catholic, an altar-boy whose parents sent him to parochial school, also expressed similar disillusionment with the institution, tainted by memories of abusively mean nuns and priests who made it clear that the poor kids weren't as worthy as the more monied kids because they couldn't pay full fare.  He gave up the church when he gave up home life at 13, shortly after graduating from the 8th grade, although he remembered all the rituals and sometimes seemed to miss them. 
   
  My brother never had a notion to attend church, but my sister and I occasionally would be encouraged to attend by friends who got Sunday school rewards for bringing friends.  It was always a totally foreign experience to us, with everyone dressed in their best and acting so nicey-nice in a voracious kind of way, singing difficult songs and performing various rituals, some of which were closed to us, the unbaptized.  We found the arts and crafts fun and the ice cream or punch-and-cookies socials an enjoyable treat.  The lessons seemed, frankly, bent on telling us what to think about the tract of the day, rather than encouraging thoughtfulness.  I lost my taste for church for many years when at the age of 13 I joined a friend at her church in the best outfit I had, a homemade miniskirt, only to be totally mortified by the sermon railing against the evils of such things. 
   
  Over the years, I've had various flirtations with organized religion.   It's nice to be a part of something sometimes, but the pressure to conform really puts me off.  Perhaps, not being raised with church, I never developed a healthy sense of not taking it too seriously, or maybe I've barked up some wrong trees.  These days, too, I really believe that churches have become too much of a business, doing so much beyond the basics, and all tax-exempt, that they look to me like exclusive, privileged clubs.  I'm a tax person and it smells like a sham, but we can't touch that one, can we?
   
  Anyway, to wrap it up.  I believe in God as a benevolent presence, not the great enforcer or the comptroller of all things.  I've had two confirming experiences.  At the age of 14 I felt utterly alone and lost, an apparently well-adjusted and bright student with no true friends who felt like an outsider at home as well and certainly could not discuss such feelings at home for fear of being mocked and made fun of.  One summer afternoon on family camping trip, I wandered to a granite boulder deep in the woods of northern Colorado and sat, pensive and crying in self-pity, wondering why I was alive, when a flock of beautiful speckled orange butterflies gathered round, alighting on me and fluttering off again for many minutes.  With them came a feeling of great peace and acceptance that carried me through many years of never quite fitting in, not in perfection, I had some horrible ups and down, but had the Butterfly Moment to bring me back.  That was definitely God's presence.
   
  Then again, at the age of 31, I ran into fitful times again, having a chronically ill child and another who was proving to be subject to some personality and learning disabilities, who were not receiving good care at day care, which was harder to find then than now.  Additionally, we'd established a lifestyle based on the two incomes after a number of years of struggling on one.  I quit my career-track professional job of 18-months in a teary mess one morning, to be home with my sons.  The nights, however, were spent in dreadful insomniac worry about bills and my husband's unspoken resentment.  One night, about two weeks in, at about rope's end, I was fitfully half-awake when a calm, gentle-but-firm voice addressed me by name.  It wasn't my husband.  He was snoring soundly.  I felt a presence, but saw nothing.  I'd had "invader dreams" but this was not the same, there wasn't a heart-stopping fearfulness, only another episode of great peacefulness and the words "I did not put you on this Earth to worry.  Be happy."  I cannot describe the calm that overcame me and again, has helped carry me through many years.  That was, again, definitely God's presence.  I consider myself blessed. 

• hottips4u said on Jun 22, 2008....

  Either blessed or subject to the likes of Chris Angel as well.....hehe
  
  It has provided sufficient escape and taken root as a belief in your personal life.  At least its not pharmaceutically induced as passageway to ... I accept therefore it is.
  
  When humans smeared illusion with reality and created the hybrid dna called life some never even showed up for the bus remaining in their own strand of denial and it escapes even them now....its been so long ago, or was it ?
  
  jessi.
  

• crybabylu said on Jun 23, 2008....

  Jessi,

  I am glad you found your way to who you are today.

   dee

• crybabylu said on Jun 23, 2008....

  KathQuest----I definitely agree with you, You are truly blessed. Thanks for sharing

• hottips4u said on Jun 23, 2008....

  Welllll....thats telling me where the bear s__t in the woods huh ?
  
  I haven't " found " my way ", at all Dee.  I was never lost ya know ?  Implying I found my way equally implies I had lost my way.
  
  I just live Dee.  I do not need justification for why I exist...it's enough that I am here and seems natural that to remain here I have to eat and that means work and that means plain ole living because....I'm here.
  
  When luck shines upon me, it's really only being in the right place at the right time, or knowing the right contact or random and coincidental in total....
  
  We create our own life in the decisions we make, not divine intervention of assist or damnation, imo.
  
  We as a species upon this marble in-a bubble, for as the majority goes, concern themselves with how they will appear to their fellow god and those others following the same god....already creating prejudice by the creation of accepted variations of god. 
  
  One fraction denounces another fraction of being less godly .....or abominations outright.
  
  Then there are those like me, that simply live life with the good bad and ugly knowing by now that we can endanger our lives in a determined fashion such as a thrill seeker or we can watch the sun rise and go down again and nothing more.
  Neither is an assurance of life or death due to anything but circumstances surrounding one's own decisions.
  
  I wish to note the both adult and child alike that was...due to circumstances and decisions of theirs,their parents, their job or just decided to take a walk along the beach....the wave engulfed them Dee.  Not divine intervention. 
  
  Natural disaster ?  Divine intervention ?
  
  and....the marble in the bubble goes round and round....round and round....and the marble in da bublle goesss.....
  
  So ya see, I have never been lost.
  
  Jess
  
   
  
  
  

• crybabylu said on Jun 23, 2008....

  Well, I'm glad to hear it.  I must try to remember to not use "figures of speech"  with you.  Since I have done that twice now just recently and each time you took them literally, but that is okay.  I should say what I mean.

  The only problem is, I don't like to be that direct in matters of religion. Too many people take it far more seriously than I do, and I don't care to argue religion.

  The reason for the post, is more or less just to know a little more about my fellow soulcasters so that I know better how to comment.

  For example, if someone is very religious then I can talk to them on that level without concern of offending them.

  If someone is take it or leave it, then I might speak it lightly or not at all.  If someone disregards it all together, I don't even go there.

  Thank you,

  dee

• hottips4u said on Jun 23, 2008....

  "Survey: How Were You Raised?"

  
  You asked Dee and for answering in my own fashion I get this ?
  
  How were you raised is a literal question.  Invasive.  Voluntary as to reply, yet inviting by construction alone, demandingly literal and unambiguous.
  
  Becoming cool simply because my answer wasn't exactly what you desire it to be, but it is literally....
  
  how I was raised, and choose to remain.
  
  I fully understand your position in not wishing to deal in the factual and religion in the same breath.
  
  But if you have an ax to grind, then out with it and lets move on.
  
  jess.
  
  

• Fallyn said on Jun 23, 2008....

  the choices i have made have brought me to this point...desirable or undesirable is up to me to decide. and if i don't decide that it is one of those two things and just choose to live, so much the better.
  How often have you made a choice that you thought you wanted only to find out it worked against you....or turned out different than you expected.
  How often has something you believed you didn't want happened and then turned out to be a good thing?
  We can never truly know what is good and what is bad because we cannot see into the future. The best we can do is make educated guesses. and even then we can't tell that our choices....though possibly good for our immediate family.....might lead to extreme disaster four generations down the road.
  How often have you been affected by a choice someone who died long before you were born made?  for good or bad?
  

• crybabylu said on Jun 23, 2008....

  Jess----no ax to grind----I posted that right before going to bed, might have been half asleep in fact, cuz I had to read it twice to believe I wrote it---ha!------If anything< I was just trying to feel my way around your answer, cuz I wasn't sure where you were coming from.

  I went back up to the previous comments, and this time I could see you were just answering me on the "found my way"......I thought at first it was something else entirely--------I'm blaming it on "sleep depravation"....Ha!ha.....

  Thanks Jess...

  dee

• crybabylu said on Jun 23, 2008....

  Fallyn-  --Thanks for commenting.  I like the way you put it into perspective.

• KathQuiet said on Jun 24, 2008....

  Jess, my husband is atheist, believing that science precludes a higher power. Odd enough, then, that great scientists are also often profound believers. They can explain, examine and theorize the how this way and the other, yet all remain asking about the why. Could it be that non-belief is simply the denial of lame intellectuals scared to ponder beyond their common senses? No insults intended; just friendly sparring. Now for some philosphy ala me: God does not intervene on mundane matters, such as waves washing people away or winning at games of chance. Instead, intervention comes in bursts of positive energy that boost us above our neural limits. Sometimes that energy manifests in a form we can understand, such as a voice or butterflies or a feeling of calmness, or a whole earth for living, exploring and enjoying one small scrap at a time.

• hottips4u said on Jun 24, 2008....

  I know this isn't my post, but your barking up the wrong tree here, I don't hug trees like you, I raise them to kill them and make mulch with the left overs mostly.
  
  God don't swallow people with waves...wtf was the red sea then ?
  
  Go smoke a bowl and hug your tree, manifest something beside sap rap. I am glad you stopped, I was getting sicker with each small scape of shit you were dropping for others to step in.
  
  Ur sick dude, ya really do need help.
  
  Hottips4u
  
  
  

• sheltercrow said on Jun 24, 2008....

  I have always found it perplexing that all the people that abused me as a child were stalwart Christians.

• crybabylu said on Jun 24, 2008....

  I didn't know what the word stalwart meant so I went and looked it up.  It is as follows:

  stal�wart �� (st�lwrt) KEY �
  
  ADJECTIVE:
  

  1. Having or marked by imposing physical strength.
  2. Firm and resolute; stout.

  NOUN:
  

  1. One who is physically and morally strong.
  2. One who steadfastly supports an organization or cause: party stalwarts.

   

  Sorry, Sheltercrow, that you were abused by such.

• anonymous said on Jun 27, 2008....

  Discrimination
  Human faith religion starts from the premise of humanity which is more than a physical face and biological organism. It is a wisdom that can only be obtained from the nature of God. It is a stage of awareness where purity of living in the physical senses without bias. Today the global women health and education crisis is result of Christian ethics of distributing education unequally. Education for the women’s of the world. We know that the "God Save the Queen and Queen Save the World " The only way we can treat the world phenomena of poverty, population, Health, war, global warming, earth, children and racial issues and many more by educating the Queen. It is time to break the prison camp of Christianity in order to change system of the world leadership and to stop educational discrimination from developed nations. The problem is when someone uneducated and dust colored like me tries to prove something it is called delusion and the same product gets new name and introduced by some privileged member of Christianity called illusion. The issue we see in many undeveloped nations is that the majority of there best minds and educated people go to the America and European countries for batter life. The undeveloped country gets by one way or other because it must while they live good life comfortably as a modern slave of Christianity. As soon as their successors grow up they will follow them to find best education and work in United State and The United Kingdom. The result of this is that after every twenty or twenty five years undeveloped country goes back to the starting point again this whitish circle of helplessness continues because of Christian ethics of distributing education and keeping educated worker for them self. The easy way to stop vicious circle developed nations must educate citizen of poor and undeveloped countries in order to advance life. It is time to stop educational discrimination for humanity. Thus a free beggar is better then the President of country who is in the prison camp of Christianity. The human faith message of life and spreading the understanding of true human nature can bring peace and goodness in our life and in the life of those who are seeking truth. It is time to introduce human faith religious based on new life shining with light and full of happiness. Human faith is the real message of love and peace in the world. The goal that we set up for human being in their lives is the satisfaction and the moral value by means of which all actions must be measures to save human life. Our vision is to introduce true human nature by mobilizing communities and faiths around the world to improve people’s lives .Our mission is to strength the bond of humanity by introducing human faith religion. The "martial law" such as those operating in dictatorships and monarchies should change their unjust way of monopolizing humanity. It is scares to think that the relationships among people and organizations based on Christian ideology .I would like to request from all these Dictators, Kings, Monarchies, Army Chiefs, Organizations, Government officials, Presidents, Vice Presidents, and Religious leaders to adopt new philosophy of humanity and come out from the prison camp of Christianity .
  Human faith method of teaching moral values and humanity can give realistic purpose of achieving complete fulfillment of internal life. The spiritual change from loneness to loveliness is based on love by giving unlimited trust in God (Rab). Human mind is miracle of Supreme Being when we struggle to boil it at luck warm temperature of wisdom to understand fundamental of life by reading (Rabi). The ever lasting stage of satisfaction for mind is to reach Supreme Being before death. The journey of memories can be pleasant with nine affirmations of human faith. We believe that it is time to joggle every conscious to show them that human mind is superior matter not material. The festival of life can be celebrated with wisdom of human faith knowledge once we realize that we all are part of the superior race. It advocates spiritual and moral principles on very high scales for the longest term in human history. Human faith is Adam's monotheistic faith and knows that God is the creator and overseer of the universe at all the time and all matters. It is time to modernize our faith by adopting true faith and educate mankind in accordance with basic principle of life. Our vision is to introduce true human religion by mobilizing communities and faiths around the world to improve people's lives .Our mission is to strength the bond of humanity (Rabi) by introducing human faith religion.
  
  IN GOD (Rib) WE TRUST WE HAVE FAITH IN HUMANITY (Rabi).
  
  
  

• speaking_up said on Apr 20, 2009....

  I was told and taught about a God...and shown something more resembling a hell.

• crybabylu said on Apr 20, 2009....

  How well I know what you mean.  Didn't experience it personally, but had close friends who did, and did they suffer.  I have talked to people and more and more tell me horror stories. It is hard to watch people go thru that, and don't know what to do to alleviate their suffering.

  My mom had emotional problems, and sometimes her emotional upsets troubled us, but I don't think it had anything to do with religion, where she was concerned.  For her, the religion helped keep her grounded.

  But, I saw many others where Religion, in my opinion, played a big role in how they conducted themselves within their families.  I am sorry you had to experience the negative side of religion.

• Voltaire said on Apr 27, 2009....

  No, I was raised to believe in what I want, which I do to this day.
  Call it god if you wish, I think we all believe in a similar being; "Same shit different name." kinda situation.
  

• crybabylu said on Apr 27, 2009....

  Thanks, Voltaire.

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