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Does Obama Stand A Chance?


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  • crybabylu said on Jun 20, 2008....

    I think a lot is going to depend on who they chose for running mates. It has been said on the talk shows and news casts that the Vice President usually isn't that important in a presidential election. But several issues have been risen in this campaign on both sides.

    Those who feel Obama lacks experience are going to be looking closely at who he chooses as a running mate.  Those who are concerned about McCain's age are going to also be looking closely at his running mate.

  • theduke said on Jun 20, 2008....

    I have been for Obama since he announced his run. People who have never voted before are coming out in droves to vote for him.  I think he is going to be a great president, and I think he definitely is going to win the election. He is ahead in the polls, and will continue to stay that way.

  • anonymous said on Jun 20, 2008....
    Nope - he's too inexperienced and liberal!
  • theduke said on Jun 20, 2008....
    He is ahead in most polls by (last time I checked) about 4.5%, so I think his chances of winning are pretty good
  • kumarilata said on Jun 20, 2008....
    Hilary should have won. But if I had to choose between McCain and Obama I would have to say Obama.. Having a republican president has done no good for this country
  • anonymous said on Jun 20, 2008....
    NOPE, because he is laughable. a joke.
  • firesky said on Jun 20, 2008....
    I am a democrat, and proud of it. I was for Hillary and now that Obama won the nomination, I am for him. He has every chance of winning IMO.
  • crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

    Duke-----I well know you have been for Obama. Thank you for commenting.

    anon------I agree he is inexperienced and liberal, but I don't know if that has anything to do whether or not he has a good chance of winning or not winning the presidency.

    Duke----I heard that too, but the polls are going to change up and down clear till the time of the election.

    Kim-----I can understand your thinking , especially where Hillary was concerned. Thank you.

    anon------I don't know that anyone thinks he is laughable or a joke, but you are entitled to your opinion.

    Cindy-----I don't claim to be either democrat or republican, and as everyone knows I was for Hillary, but now that she is not the nominee, I haven't made up my mind who I am for. I think it is still either Obama's or McCain's race. I will just have to wait and see.  But I do think he has a good chance of winning.

    Thank you everyone who has commented so far.

  • SocialPenguin said on Jun 21, 2008....
    In most election years, I would say no. However, this time around is a bit different. Typically, his leftist policies, combined with his race (I don't agree it should be a factor, but if you look at the polling it clearly was in the primaries), would make for a difficult road. However, the American people seem to be fed up with the current administration (29% approval), and that sentiment has historically been paired with a backlash against the sitting president's party. With so many problem trends in America right now, I think the reaction against the Republican party will be strong enough to give him a very reasonable shot. I'll be voting for John McCain, but this should be a very interesting race.
  • dyingman said on Jun 21, 2008....
    Leftist and liberal.

    Does anybody question whether they're as bad as we've been told given 28 years of conservative rule interrupted only by wishy-washy "All talk and no action" Bill Clinton?

    Eveyone 35 and under has never heard of someone who was "just liberal enough".
    ANY amount of liberal is too much.

    That's the line America has been fed and the liberals have done a crummy job of combating the impression that liberalism is bad.  Instead they renamed it progressivism and THAT seems to be okay.  The conservatives have done a crummy job in bringing that fact to people's attention so for those of you who think you're progressive... you're LIBERAL and you should look upon liberals as your allies.  Your BEST allies because they are not only progressive, they are unafraid of those who hate progressivism.  So brave that they don't fear the proud name of "liberal".

    If you've simply taken it on faith that liberalism is bad.
    Take the time to really find out what it is and ask yourself WHO is telling me it's bad... and why.
    If you feel deceived when you're done.

    That out of the way, Obama can win.  He has charisma and that's what Americans vote for, even though they shouldn't.

    This video tells me not just that he has charisma but that he has uncanny abilities in presenting that charisma:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghSJsEVf0pU&feature=related

    I saw this and believed he not only CAN win.  He will.  THAT kind of video can reach people and it's only June.

    The people speaking between the singing... THAT is liberalism.  

    Not so scary, is it?

    Liberalism is policies from "the left";  "leftist".  The last 8 years have been "rightist"; heavily conservative.  How's it been working out for ya'?  Who's been telling you that you need to be scared of liberals all this time? 




  • ALIENated said on Jun 21, 2008....
    
    Does Obama Stand a Real Chance Of Winning?       NO
    
    Once the debates begin between McCain and Oblahma, it will become more
    and more obvious how inexperienced, socialist, and Oblahma is.
    
    It will also become obvious that McCain is the better Democrat running.
    Face it. Democrats cannot lose this time. There are only two Democrats
    running -- a middle of the road Democrat (probably to the left of JFK and
    LBJ) and a socialist / Marxist Democrat (probably to the left of Chairman
    Mao).
    
    
  • Expendable said on Jun 21, 2008....
    Obama's got a much better chance and would be a better president than McCain.
  • crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

    SocialPenguin-----I agree with you----interesting indeed!

    dyingman------politics is so fickle, it is hard to say for me who I think is going to win, but I sure think he has as good of a chance as McCain.

    Alienated------Some people are saying although they think McCain can hold his standing in a debate, they don't know if they trust him. But, of course some are saying that about Obama too.

    Expendable------Most polls right now are saying that McCain sounds to much like President Bush.

  • ALIENated said on Jun 21, 2008....
    
    I trust McCain on a couple of things, like national security and finishing the
    war in Iraq, but he will have to be molded on the other important issues, 
    like illegal immigrants, etc.
    
    Oblamha appeals to racist blacks (blacks who will vote for him simply because
    he is black), some women (the ones not mad about Hillary's demise), and gays.
    
    I heard someone say, the other day, that there are enough people who will 
    never vote for a black man to swing the vote to McCain. For now that is 
    correct, but not for long. 
    
    Even hispanics are smart enough not to vote for Oblahma. By and large they 
    have better moral values than the average natural born American. And so do 
    most Americans of middle eastern decent. That is the mistake Democrats are 
    making with their open borders policies. They think anyone slithering across 
    the border is going to automatically vote Democrat. But Democrats have 
    aligned themselves with groups that are offensive to any god-fearing people, 
    no matter where they came from. 
    
    
  • crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....

    I agreed with him on immigration. I don't know why someone isn't doing something more pro-active about it. They are here, and we need to have a plan, no one else seems to have a plan.

  • crybabylu said on Jun 21, 2008....
    Border Security
    and Immigration Reform   (proposed by McCain)


    I have always believed that our border must be secure and that the federal government has utterly failed in its responsibility to ensure that it is secure. If we have learned anything from the recent immigration debate, it is that Americans have little trust that their government will honor a pledge to do the things necessary to make the border secure.

    As president, I will secure the border. I will restore the trust Americans should have in the basic competency of their government. A secure border is an essential element of our national security. Tight border security includes not just the entry and exit of people, but also the effective screening of cargo at our ports and other points of entry.

    But a secure border will contribute to addressing our immigration problem most effectively if we also:

    Recognize the importance of building strong allies in Mexico and Latin America who reject the siren call of authoritarians like Hugo Chavez, support freedom and democracy, and seek strong domestic economies with abundant economic opportunities for their citizens.
  • woman said on Jun 21, 2008....
    When Hillary and Obama were standing toe to toe I was standing here cheering. Cheering for the possibility of having either a woman, or a man of color, running for president. I honestly never thought I would see this in my lifetime and I consider it the first positive thing that has happened in the country, politically, in a long time. Now Obama is the chosen canidate and I am excited. I am hopeful. I look forward to the chance of change. The chance of mending our relationships with other countries , who are also feeling hopeful and reevaluating the way they perceive us. For example, perhaps we are not as racist as they thought. A fresh, clean, wind needs to blow in and I am hopeful Obama is that wind. I am also hopeful that he will not be hurt by narrow minded people, as he bravely steps forward.
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 21, 2008....
    If you'd asked me three months ago I would have said Obama couldn't win.  As we get closer and closer it becomes increasinly evident that he's got that Jedi mind trick that Bill was supposed to teach his wife and with as screwed up as as the country is right now I don'b think he can lose.
  • TheNakedProfessor said on Jun 21, 2008....
     
     
    Your question would not be valid without its obvious answer.
     
    If Obama did not stand a chance, there would be no need for the question.
     
    One of two people in the entire world will be the next president of the USA unless nature or assassins intervene.
     
    Polls show him leading McCain. Right wing racists are in deep denial. And it turns out that Michelle Obama really isn't secretly Omorosa.
     
    All the signs are there. He has a chance.
     
     
  • Ownedgalbabs said on Jun 21, 2008....
    Personally I had thought that he well might have had a very good and real  chance until    the would be"  First Lady made her comments including "Whitey" Sorry but having been raised zero tolerance towards racism, I think electing a President who's own wife would use such and in the manner in which she did would be a big "NO GO" in my books.  And frankly I assume many others.
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 21, 2008....
    Cept she never said whitey, wouldn't even make sense in the consersation. Have you heard the clip?
     
    Hispanics aren't "smart" enough not to vote for Oblamama, they are racist and won't vote for a black.  If Obama was a born and raised Catholic who wanted to open borders and pay every man of latino decent 10k as reparations for the Mexican American War and the theft of what would become the worlds seventh largest economy hispanics still wouldn't vote for him.  Sheesh ALIEN grasp at something that's real at least.
  • sheltercrow said on Jun 21, 2008....
    SocialPenguin: if you think Obama is a leftist you must be from the Stalinist school. He is a corporate sponsored candidate right down the line. If you don't think that race is a factor you are pissing in the pond. It's the time for a non-white president.

    dyingman: you simply have to get an education on how to write something that others can understand.

    ALIENated: as usual your comments remain mired in old world shit stain politics. "socialist" "Marxist" lol.

    And your racism... "I heard someone say, the other day, that there are enough people who will never vote for a black man to swing the vote to McCain. For now that is correct, but not for long." I believe that someone was just you. 
     
    That, coupled with your "Oblamha appeals to racist blacks (blacks who will vote for him simply because he is black)... and gays", is just a reflection of your own racism and homophobia. We all know you would never vote for Obama because he is black so what is your point?

  • sheltercrow said on Jun 21, 2008....
    Alienated is the guy on guitar


  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 21, 2008....
    Shelter, please shut up.  Sane people everywhere are having brain hemorages because you don't think Obama is a leftist, and largely socialist.  He's down the line?  WHAT?  I swear reading you reminds me that I disagree with ALIEN but he's not an idiot.
  • Ownedgalbabs said on Jun 22, 2008....
    seanrenaud:

    Actually I have heard it.  And she did indeed say it.  Left all of us who heard it more than just a little shocked. Especially since it came following the highly publicized current homicide details for Toronto's two latest. 

    Two law abiding, upstanding and hard working young men who so happened to be Caucasian who witnesses say were shot to death as they were fastening their seat belts by an unknown non Caucasians just one week ago.

    Yeah, hate is hate is hate.  If the shoe were on the other foot everyone would be up in arms....so why when other races commit hate crimes or make racial slurs does everyone turn a blind eye?
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 22, 2008....

    Link it.  Cus I heard the speech to and it's clear that she's saying why'd he do it.  Whitey do it doesn't even make sense, and up to this point we've never once seen her use improper grammer.

    'm not denying she's a loose cannon, nd she's probably racist given her age and race she'd pretty much have to be, but I'm highly suspect of this recording that I've only managed to hear once and haven't been able to even find since which leads me to believe that what I heard was fake anyway.

  • sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....

    Sean you always amaze "Obama is a leftist".

    I must take my medication.

    How is Obama a leftist? "Whitey" hum ... you have uesd that too often.

    Any black women are 'a loose cannon'? Forgive me for pointing out that black women are also citizens.
     
  • sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....
    Do you know why obama is necessary? To rid us of this cracker culture.
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 22, 2008....
    How is he not a leftist?
     
    Obama is for higher taxes.  Leftist
    Obama is for National Health Care. Leftist
    Obama is for smaller military.  Leftist
    Obama is against tax cuts for the rich.  Leftist.
     
    2.  What the hell does loose cannon and being a citizen have to do with anything.  Do you just string together buzz words and flood it with crap to hope we don't debate you?
     
    3.  To rid us of this cracker culture?  LOLOLOLOLOLOL.  I hope not, I rather like this "Cracker culture" and the rest of the world looks to it as a beacon of what to stride for.  Don't worry though, you're wrong.  Obama won't turn us into a third world shit hole.
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 22, 2008....
    How is he not a leftist?
     
    Obama is for higher taxes.  Leftist
    Obama is for National Health Care. Leftist
    Obama is for smaller military.  Leftist
    Obama is against tax cuts for the rich.  Leftist.
     
    2.  What the hell does loose cannon and being a citizen have to do with anything.  Do you just string together buzz words and flood it with crap to hope we don't debate you?
     
    3.  To rid us of this cracker culture?  LOLOLOLOLOLOL.  I hope not, I rather like this "Cracker culture" and the rest of the world looks to it as a beacon of what to stride for.  Don't worry though, you're wrong.  Obama won't turn us into a third world shit hole.
  • ALIENated said on Jun 22, 2008....
    
    @sean: Sheltercrow is just pissed because I blocked him (her?) long ago. I can
    take a lot of abuse, but I do not like mounds of stupidity on my usually 
    brilliant posts. 
    
    I am not a racist, I am an American. Oblahma is not quite sure what he is and 
    who to blame it on. Like most far left liberals, he blames it on the rich. Strangely,
    he is now one of the rich. Just another liberal contradiction that anyone with a 
    brain can see. Osama Hussein Oblahma will not win in the fall no matter how 
    much liberals want him to, simply because he is too liberal. The American voter 
    is smart and has rejected rabid liberal presidential candidates time after time. 
    
    Some voted for him in the primary because all they knew was: he is black, he is 
    not a Republican, and he is not George Bush. As time goes on, the American 
    voter will step back and hear the difference in a moderate Democrat (McCain) 
    and a far left socialist tax collector (Osama). 
    
    Plus, we live in the age of the snafu. Oblahma will screw up time after time
    because he is no inexperienced and out of his league. He is not what people have
    projected onto him. He is what he is: an America-hating socialist, Marxist. If 
    there is more modern terms for that, then that is what he is. Either way, smart
    Americans will see through it, suck it up, and vote for McCain. And, if for no
    other reason, Americans will vote for his name -- McCain -- over the name --
    Obama -- that sounds so much like our mortal enemies. Do you think McCain
    would give Osama Bin Ladin his day in court once he is caught? Oblahma will
    never even catch him, so that is a moot point I suppose.
    
    
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 22, 2008....
    I think you're giving voters way too much credit.  Barrack gives good speeches.  I voted him over Hillary because I know and don't like Hillary's stance on free speech.  Though Hilary is tougher on illegal immigation than Barrack 'we should take care of them' or McCain's how can I clean my beer factory with out slaves!  And it's not that she has a strong stance against it, it's just the other two are for it.
     
    And yeah him being black did have something to do with it.  But to be fair there were only two viable choices.  I can't even remember the names of the others.
     
    I wish Ron Paul had won. 
     
    Still you're giving voters too much credit.
     
    On Bin Ladin, if McCain were president he'd get a trial.  I think McCain is smart enough for that.
     
    If Barrack is the president well he'll magically get shot in the field.
  • sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....
     Again: To rid us of this cracker culture.
  • sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....
    So Sean: the youth of our site, what is your solution? Assassination? You amaze me.
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 22, 2008....
    Solution?  There isn't really a problem.
  • sheltercrow said on Jun 22, 2008....
    A man with a hole in his ass that serves as his voice.
  • dyingman said on Jun 22, 2008....
    Alienated.
    Obama is leading 62-28% among Latinos.

    They're as dumb as women and blacks, I guess.  :P


    Sheltercrow:
    Not everyone was confused.
    I'm happy to help if you'd give me specific questions about what threw you for a loop.
    Politics isn't as simple as Rush O'Hannity like to pretend it is so when you hear the truth, it CAN be confusing at first, but it's worth the effort.


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Even Chris Mathews at MSNBC is starting to question Obama.

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Or is it laughs with? Hard to tell...
The irresponsible marsh mellow fluff and hype portrayed by an inexperienced and fraudulent administration... Line by line....
In the Shadow of Hoover - William Greider...
Hows that change working out for you Mr. President? Suddenly understanding why past presidents lie, cheat and steal?...