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     So finally, after all the endless links and dirty little quips, we finally get to see the real Sheltercrow and a classic example of how angry and mean the crazy extreme left can get.  Among many other things said, which can be found here:  http://www.soulcast.com/post/show/132760/Some-Of-Our-Friends-%5B-America%27s-Friends-%5D-Are-Killers--%28-DEVILS%21-%29 he seems to really dig deep in the paragraph below.
 
     My suspicions that Sheltercrow was an anti-Semite (as well as a nutjob lib) are now confirmed.  Now I honestly believe he is a cryto-Nazi hiding behind this extreme-Liberal facade.  Please read the following paragraph and you will see what I mean.  Finally a spirited debate!!!   
 
      "Another point of clarity if I might. Israel has made a deal with the devil and the bill will ultimately be paid in Israeli blood. Make no mistake on this point. Whatever you may think about the Arab world it has an understanding about Zionism and it's Israeli manifestation that a pathetic armchair warriors like SMB will never approach. All SMB's dime-a-dozen blow-hard assertions do not make the world any different.

     I have no problem with Jews, as they are understood to be an Israeli, until they want my countries money, which by extension means mine, to fund their wholly corrupt experiment to violently place themselves in another people's place. I am a realist and know these problems will not disappear because I wish it so. But that does not mean I want to f*****g help them along. The Israelis, who unfortunately happen to be Jews, are the worlds most prolific parasites.

     Did you know that the gap between the rich and the poor is even greater there than here in the US? A result of a natural human corruption that is magnified by US aid. These regimes, like Israel, are a menace and will always be a menace.

     My vitriolic expressions here are actually meant for that spineless maggot SMB. All big talk and no walk. A f*****g true coward. If that ignorant piece of shit wants Israel to help pay it's gas bill, let it give it's money and let it pick up a gun. Let it kill. A f*****g coward is a f*****g coward.

     The Freudian "one of the most brutal and disgusting regimes" just a slip of the tongue? Do you think that shit stain cares that "Rums and Cheney have grandchildren?" You would have to be truly stupid to be hoodwinked by the these false human platitudes that the AS uses to push debate.

     A point of clarity if you missed it. SMB is a f*****g coward. SMB will always neutralize it's own weakness by first throwing what it is at you. F**k SMB. SMB is a piece of shit that can be encountered everywhere you go. If you buy it you eat it.

     Youch!  I wonder if his Lithium drip ran out.  As you can see these people have what's known as the 'few can's short of a sixpack' syndrome.  I'll adress his seemly misguided rants on Israel and set the record straight very shortly. 



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  • curmudgeon said on May 30, 2008....
    I don't even bother responding to Sheltercrow's ugly rants. He dares call you a right wing mouthpiece (in far worse terms) when the vast majority of his posts contain links to leftist propaganda.
     
    It seems that a great many angry leftist shills are popping up on Soulcast of late.
  • SeanRenaud said on May 30, 2008....
    Wait, you aren't blocked from that nut case?
  • curmudgeon said on May 30, 2008....
    I haven't tried...yet!
  • SeanRenaud said on May 30, 2008....
    LoL I dont' even remember WHY I'm blocked.  So many of the idiots on this site have me blocked, mostly the lefties, right wingers seem to have thicker skin.
  • sheltercrow said on May 30, 2008....

    The full series...

    A tired subject to waste time on...

    SMB is either an industry lobbyist or a republican party loyalist neither of which is about "an honest debate." I have yet to find her using a normative or honest source. Most of her sources consist of her opinion alone as redacted by her industry lobbyist and republican party loyalty.

    A few quotes of SMB...

    [...]

    *****

    Before we go hog wild cry SMB is a ding dong who once wrote [I paraphrase here]...

    [...]

    Scotland Yard have commenced a criminal investigation of Tony Blair: War Crimes

    Scotland Yard has caught up with Blair and the Fed's will catch up with Bush when he leaves office. Rummy was chased out of France when they sought to arrest him for crimes against humanity.

    [...]

    *****

    SMB is an "online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company" used for "public relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create the impression of being spontaneous, grassroots behavior." Or technically an Astroturfing sockpuppet.

    As can be gleaned from the complete lack of independent and original source material SMB is an industry lobbyist and a republican party hack neither of which make for "an honest debate."

    There is nothing more boring and obscene than a party hack and lobbyist masquerading as a concerned commenter.

    SMB is what is called a Astroturfing sockpuppet.

    A sockpuppet is an online identity used for purposes of deception within an Internet community.

    ..."sock-puppeting" is defined as "the act of creating a fake online identity to praise, defend or create the illusion of support for one’s self, allies or company."

    Astroturfing ...is a neologism for formal public relations campaigns in politics and advertising which seek to create the impression of being spontaneous, grassroots behavior, hence the reference to the artificial grass AstroTurf.

    The goal of such a campaign is to disguise the efforts of a political or commercial entity as an independent public reaction to some political entity—a politician, political group, product, service or event. Astroturfers attempt to orchestrate the actions of apparently diverse and geographically distributed individuals, by both overt ("outreach", "awareness", etc.) and covert (disinformation) means. Astroturfing may be undertaken by anything from an individual pushing one's own personal agenda through to highly organized professional groups with financial backing from large corporations, non-profits, or activist organizations.

    What is the difference between SMB and real posters? SMB is selling an agenda.

    *****

    SMB you get quite pathetic at times. To juxtapose all Jews with Israel is just too lame to comment on. The arms sales happened and the oil and gas purchases through the swiss still happen.

    Jews are no more "money grubbing" than the next person. That Israel does some rather disturbing things doesn't make it exceptional either. All nation states do similar things.

    To put Israel on a pedestal as you do is childish. You are childish. I haven't a reason in the world to debate a child.

    I have little respect for our leaders and will make no exception for Israeli leaders or Israel. I could give a shit that they are Jews.

    Israel takes our tax dollars and kills people and steals their land. I have always had nothing but f*****g scorn for thieves. These f*****g thieves use my f*****g money to do it. F**k Israel. I have the same contempt for Israel as I do for all the parasite regimes this country aids.

    *****

    There are quite a few parasite regimes that are recipients of US foreign aid and Israel is a the top. It get the most scorn in my book Jew or no Jew.

    F**K Israel, Egypt, Columbia, Jordan, Pakistan, and Indonesia. That we give these regimes aid is ludicrous.

    *****

    Suck on that you f*****g pathetic idiot. That goes for any Zionists that support that shit stain regime with my tax dollars. You can send them as much of your money as you like but don't expect me to be happy when my f*****g money is involved.

    *****

    That murderous regime has already crossed that line of no return. Lets be honest here. It is a rogue regime no better than South Africa in the bad old days of apartheid. Whatever happens to Israel now is due to it's own actions. It's blatant policy of obstructing peace talks for the last 20 years has born fruit that Israel is not willing to eat.

    I honestly cannot find one good thing to say about Israel. It has intentionally painted itself into a corner and there is nothing left in the form of good will for it to draw on. We have spent enough on that experiment and it failed. All the good intentions in the world will not change reality. Sink or swim it's time to cast off the line and say good by.

    Every house demolished, acre stolen, child killed is done with the help of US tax dollars. How much f*****g blood are you willing to spill? Have you no shame? I for one am out of the game and am not willing to allow my f*****g tax dollars to prop up that parasite apartheid regime to reduce the cost of a f*****g gas bill.

    *****

    Open mind? You mean open wallet. The US spends more on an Israeli citizen than on a US citizen. The results? Dead people and misery. What twisted logic can you conjure up to justify what is obviously a bad deal? Cheaper gas for your SUV? Imagine a world where cheaper gas for your car is offset by an efficient corpse disposal operation. You can wear your blinders till your eyes fall out but it does not change things.

    I will not burden you further. Lets call it a day.

    *****

    Another point of clarity if I might. Israel has made a deal with the devil and the bill will ultimately be paid in Israeli blood. Make no mistake on this point. Whatever you may think about the Arab world it has an understanding about Zionism and it's Israeli manifestation that a pathetic armchair warriors like SMB will never approach. All SMB's dime-a-dozen blow-hard assertions do not make the world any different.

    I have no problem with Jews, as they are understood to be an Israeli, until they want my countries money, which by extension means mine, to fund their wholly corrupt experiment to violently place themselves in another people's place. I am a realist and know these problems will not disappear because I wish it so. But that does not mean I want to f*****g help them along. The Israelis, who unfortunately happen to be Jews, are the worlds most prolific parasites. Did you know that the gap between the rich and the poor is even greater there than here in the US? A result of a natural human corruption that is magnified by US aid. These regimes, like Israel, are a menace and will always be a menace.

    My vitriolic expressions here are actually meant for that spineless maggot SMB. All big talk and no walk. A f*****g true coward. If that ignorant piece of shit wants Israel to help pay it's gas bill, let it give it's money and let it pick up a gun. Let it kill. A f*****g coward is a f*****g coward.

    The Freudian "one of the most brutal and disgusting regimes" just a slip of the tongue? Do you think that shit stain cares that "Rums and Cheney have grandchildren?" You would have to be truly stupid to be hoodwinked by the these false human platitudes that the AS uses to push debate.

    A point of clarity if you missed it. SMB is a f*****g coward. SMB will always neutralize it's own weakness by first throwing what it is at you. F**k SMB. SMB is a piece of shit that can be encountered everywhere you go. If you buy it you eat it.

  • stopmediabias said on May 31, 2008....

    Sean & Curm-I blocked him before then re-opened it to be fair.   Sean you are most of the time very sensible, something Libs can't handle.

    Shelter-"SMB is either an industry lobbyist or a republican party loyalist neither of which is about "an honest debate." I have yet to find her using a normative or honest source. Most of her sources consist of her opinion alone as redacted by her industry lobbyist and republican party loyalty."

    I am not an industry lobbyist and of course I'm a republican party loyalist, when you enter my blog you know right up front I am a rep/conservative.  There has never been a source that I have used that is unreasonable or unbiased.  My opinions are based on facts.  Since you are a major candyass I know you are going to play these 5 year-old-games in calling me a her.  I challenge you to find an abnormal or dishonest source in any part of my blog. 

    As I go down through your comments it is difficult to respond.  Even though you say a lot you really don't say anything of substance.  You make up these stupid catchphrases and repeat them over and over again. 

    As far as Israel.

    #1-It doesn't matter who bought from who over 20 years ago, lets try to live in the here and now.

    #2-Israel to escape extinction from the Nazis emmigrated and settled in what is known as historically significant to both Arabs and Jews. 

    #3-Arabs and Jews coexist in Israel and around the world.  Right now Israel is trying to stay alive while a bunch of extremists (Hamas) have dominated the Arab side of the conflict.

    #4-Until the world unites against these Arab extremists there is always going to be war.

    Your endless sitings of lawsuits and investigations is a lot of bullshit.  Any pinhead can call for an investigation or represent a cockroach and file suit against someone else.  It means nothing.

    It is obvious and any moron can see that we should support Israel.  Their position in that region is important.  Even a dickhead like you can acknowledge that if there were more countries like Israel in that area there wouldn't be all this conflict.

    You should give up this blogging thing, it is not working at all for you.


     

  • sheltercrow said on May 31, 2008....
    An AS...

    1. Republican party operative and loyalist.
    2. Rush Limbaugh and Ann Coulter.
    3. You don't present facts you present views and pass them off as facts.
    4. I have found the few sources you use to be dishonest.
    5. Immigrated and forcefully colonized.
    6. Arabs live under Israeli occupation.

    Since the neocons are nearly all Jewish, and Zionists to boot, that has nothing to do with this discussion?
    Paul Wolfowitz, Douglas J. Feith, Richard Perle, Elliott Abrams, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, and John P. Hannah.

    David Wurmser: "A pro-Israel ideologue." "While at IASPS, Wurmser participated in a 1996 study group that produced a report for the incoming Likud-led government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in Israel that urged the country to break off then-ongoing peace initiatives and suggested strategies for reshaping the Middle East."

    John Robert Bolton: Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA)

    Michael Arthur Ledeen: founding member of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA)

    You should give up this blogging thing, it is not working at all for you.

    I for one am not willing to allow my f*****g tax dollars to prop up that parasite apartheid regime to reduce the cost of a f*****g gas bill.
  • stopmediabias said on May 31, 2008....
    I have blocked Sheltercrow again.  I think he is coming unhinged.  I just love comments like this:  "Since the neocons are nearly all Jewish, and Zionists to boot, that has nothing to do with this discussion?"
     
    He just keeps digging his own hole deeper with shit like this.  He sounds like Osama.  
  • firesky said on May 31, 2008....
    no offense, why did you block sheltercrow, so if you don't like what I say, are you going to block me too?
  • firesky said on May 31, 2008....

    "Sheltercrows Revenge!!!! Finally a Debate!!!"

    how can the above be true, if you keep blocking him?

  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 01, 2008....
    Neocons equally Zionists is so far off base that . . . God where do I start?  I don't block people, pretty much ever.  The people who are blocked from my blogs are exclusively people who were spamming, and heavily at that.
  • stopmediabias said on Jun 01, 2008....

    Firesky-I blocked him because he can't just answer simple questions or have a civilized debate, he just copied what he wrote from another piece.  I don't like his pictures and I don't like his long-windedness.

    I un-blocked him at first so he could hang-himself with his own rope.  Look at this comment, imagine if any pundit conservative or liberal came out with a remark like this.    "I for one am not willing to allow my f*****g tax dollars to prop up that parasite apartheid regime to reduce the cost of a f*****g gas bill."

    Who is he kidding with "parasite apartheid regime," he almost echos some of the statements made by the terrorists we are fighting.

  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 01, 2008....
    I am curious where Isreal's money comes from.  If they are primarily US funded that would make them a parasite. 
  • curmudgeon said on Jun 01, 2008....
    I will occasionally delete a comment that adds nothing to the discussion, like stray cuss words and such. I have blocked anonymous commenting on one post. If you want to play ball, put on a damn uniform. It's easy enough.
     
    I will say at this point that the beauty of the U.S. is that people with incredibly diverse points of view can more or less live their lives out in a shared space without coming to blows, at least too often. And the really great thing about the Internet is that those people can trade those viewpoints...sometimes ad nauseum.
  • SeanRenaud said on Jun 01, 2008....
    I've got anon blocked too, I don't know how closely you follow me but when I'm on a role I'm one of the more controversial posters here and I generally swing at both sides equally (though you as being part of one side probably think I pick on the religious/conservative movement.) and sometimes I do.  Anons are pointless though.
     
  • stopmediabias said on Jun 02, 2008....
    My biggest problem with Shelterdork is he doesn't debate.  He just clogs space with link after link.  His statements that attempted to exoriate me was probably the first time I'm actually seen him write anything.  But then he goes right back to the same stuff,
  • curmudgeon said on Jun 02, 2008....
    Sean - Actually I didn't get that impression from you. You do tend to argue with people from just about every perspective, which is what makes it fun to trade arguments with you. Yes I do come at this from one perspective, but I do like to get other people's perspectives. It helps me examine my own.

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