• idragosani said on Aug 11, 2006....

  Microsoft doesn't make or sell computers... with the exception of XBoxes, they are a software company. In the computer geek world, the big debate is mostly over Unix vs. Windows -- Unix meaning Solaris, AIX, BSD, Linux, FreeBSD, OSX, among others, and Windows meaning, well... what Microsoft sells.

• GMNIMan said on Aug 12, 2006....

  Remember also that Mac OS is the Apple version of Unix. Different skin, but still Unix no less. So "Apple VS Microsoft" is still very much "Unix VS Windows" :-)) ...now tell me which is better?

• GMNIMan said on Aug 12, 2006....

  Oops! You did say OSX, so there, full marks to you [b]idragosani[/b]. Sorry, comments are un-editable!

• LadyGamer said on Aug 14, 2006....

  Remember when people made things for the pride of accomplishment? Ahhh the long gone never gonna come back ever everevereverneverever days.

• StrangeOne said on Aug 29, 2006....

  Hahah I always wind up getting myself into this debate because even though I can't stand it! I do some Photoshopping/graphic art for a living, and being in this field I am often forced to use a Mac, but at home I prefer a PC. Since most other graphic designers are diehard Mac-heads, I wind up getting into it a lot with them.
  
  My personal opinion: Macs are okay if you are computer illiterate and want to stay that way. For me, they are much too closed off - you have to accept the way Apple wants you to use a computer and that's that. No tinkering allowed. For those who hate tinkering, that's great.
  
  But I, for one, am a geek and I love computer hardware. I build my own PC - when I don't like the way it's functioning, I am not at the mercy of those snotty Apple tech support guys. I can open the box, get some new hardware, change things around, tinker with the registry, the BIOS, you name it. It's all in my hands. And because of this, my P4 runs laps around a Mac running the very graphics software Macs are supposedly made for!
  
  But, to get the most out of a PC, it is good to be above-average on the computer literacy scale. Someone who just picks up a Dell or HP or whatever from the store and uses it out of the box will not fare as well.
  

• optyk said on Jun 28, 2007....

  strangeone, you knew when you replied that you were in another mac vs pc thread. I've been using Macs exclusively for 21 years. Not once in those 21 years have I ever felt at the mercy of apple's tech support guys, snotty or not. I agree, on a mac, tinkering isn't something one does often, primarily because most of what one needs is already built in and is adequate for the task at hand in most instances. No, you won't be tinkering with the registry or the bios on a mac. you can tinker with ppd files if you'd like. back in the pre-osx days, we had resedit and other utilities that let us go in and make changes in mac resources. it wasn't for the faint of heart and few did it, but it was certainly possible. with osx, if one has the knowledge and gumption, you can certainly go to the console and deal with unix directly via command line, without the cover of the mac graphical interface but guess what. . . few do that either. I think most people who buy a mac have an idea what they want to do with a computer and buy the computer that does that. It just happens to be a Mac. I don't think your implication that mac users are computer illiterate is accurate. I assure you I'm not computer illiterate, nor are hundreds of other Mac users I have known for years. I use a Mac for one particular reason. I can get more done in a shorter time than I can using other systems. I have no compelling need to diddle with a computer. I have tasks I want to get done and the Mac lets me do it without having to diddle. I'm a power user, so on occasion I do go in and make some system changes. I've certainly changed memory, processors, mother boards, hard drives, cd drives, etc on numerous occasions. Most of the Macs i've owned over the years, i've had accellerators installed, starting with a dove 16 mhz accelerator in a Mac SE back in '87. The Mac II I had in 88 had an added 33 mhz accelerator, an additional floppy drive, a rom upgrade so it could see high density floppy drives, memory upgrade and a total of 6 scsi devices daisychained to it, including two hard drives, a scanner, a cd, a tape backup and a syquest drive, all of which I personally installed. but most of the time, the mac I buy does the job right out of the box. any additions I make are to enhance what's there. rod www.macsheadroom.blogspot.com

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