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What kinds of crimes do you think warrant jail time and what crimes would be better sutied to some other kind of punishment?
 
Personally I would like to limit jail time to criminals who are a danger to the rest of society.  Murderers, rapists and muggers.  For the vast majority of other crimes jail time doesn't seem to help anything and might just make things worse.


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  • Lucytorial said on May 11, 2008....
    Glad to see you got rid of that dip shit.....

    hmmm not sure, its hard to make judgment when some crimes that are not life threatening can be more harmful long term to the victim.

    Yet, jail tends to bread certain aspects of bad behaviour, it is taught after all and not in bred. 

    Maybe if there were two tiers of punishment, the first rehabilitation which should be quite lengthy, then jail for those severe crimes, but isolated jail time with rehab.
  • SeanRenaud said on May 11, 2008....
    I just blocked him, deleted the blog and reposted it.
     
    I was just reading an article from Playboy the subject.  And they were pointing out that a large percentage of our incarcerated are in there for petty crimes linked to the War on Drugs, then there is (in CA) the 3 strikes law that puts away many for 25 years. 
     
    They are put in jail, and in jail they eventually join a gang, it's pretty much required to survive the experience.  Once they are in a gang they get out and continue the behavior.  That we are making the situation worse with our current methods and like so many otherthings we've trid it the wrong way and it didn't work.
  • travelr712 said on May 11, 2008....
    i'm curious, this is the second post i've seen that's only been out for a couple hours with hundreds of views and only a couple comments. this one has over 1000 views, only 2 comments, and is only 2 hours old. what am i missing?
  • skald said on May 11, 2008....
    For once I agree with you. 
  • SeanRenaud said on May 11, 2008....
    You've only agreed with me once?!  What kind of freak are you?!  I mean serioiusly the right agrees with me half the time and the left the other half of the time, you must be my evil doppleganger if we've never seen eye to eye.
     
    To answer you travelr I think I didn't phrase what I wanted well enough and that's part of the limited comments, the other part is that is that I got bombed early on and that probably turned a lot of people off.
  • travelr712 said on May 11, 2008....
    well ok sean, but over 1000 views in two hours? that'd be nearly 100 views a minute. there just hasn't been that much activity here today. it takes months to get that many views normally.
     
    and two others are up over 300 in the same amount of time. it's just not something that happens here. something must be screwey with the way views are accounted since about 2pm today.
  • SeanRenaud said on May 11, 2008....
    I had a spammer, he probably racked em up, I had 65 comments in the first five minutes.
  • travelr712 said on May 11, 2008....
    you're up to nearly 1800 now, that's 800 in an hour, you haven't had that many views. i've been watching, you only increased about 10 for most of that hour, and then you went up over 700 in the last 10 minutes. something's broken in sc.
  • travelr712 said on May 11, 2008....
    you just went up 50 since i wrote that last comment, something wierd's going on!
  • travelr712 said on May 11, 2008....
    it's increasing at a rate of 20 per second now. you're going to have the most viewed post in history!
  • SeanRenaud said on May 11, 2008....
    That is wierd.
  • TinSoldier said on May 11, 2008....
    I think I'm okay with the status quo.
  • D6fer said on May 11, 2008....
    I would like to see "tent cities" set up all across america....they are a hell of alot cheaper to build than prisons, and a lot less fun for criminals to be in....no frills.....no tv....no basketball hoops.....no weights.....just a good old fashioned chain gang for exercise! Put a guy in their for the 1st 30 to 90 days of incarceration and send them back to it when they misbehave in the big house......so many that are in prison are serving sentences that are short.

    About 3 out of 4 inmates leaving State prisons had been convicted of a
    nonviolent crime (table 1). Property offenders and drug offenders each
    accounted for about a third of those exiting prisons.


    On average, nonviolent offenders discharged had received a sentence of
    about 52 months and had served an average of 16 months, about a third
    of their sentence, prior to discharge

    source


  • SeanRenaud said on May 12, 2008....
    The Status Quo isn't working Tin, it's not only not working it has actually made things worse and it's provable, so why are you ok with the status quo? 
  • lfbno7 said on May 12, 2008....
    Jail is an idea that hasn't worked. I don't see it as the best solution for anything at all. It was originally meant as a place to house those arrested, until their trial. It was not originally meant to be the punishment itself. It should not be. The punishment, if it is to be over a protracted period of time, should involve convicts supporting themselves, not being supported by the taxpayer. Anyone who believes in the current system hasn't bothered to think it through yet. The best system would be one that actually rehabilitates people and sets them on a better course, unlike the one we have now. The best system would add money to the system, not take money out of it.
  • crybabylu said on May 12, 2008....
    I agree with you sean.
  • silverwhisper said on May 12, 2008....
    personally, i think that the only people who should be incarcerated are violent criminals, whether misdemeanor or felony.

    ed
  • skald said on May 12, 2008....
    Sean.  I guess, I've not often been on your blog and that is why. maybe i would agree with you more often if  I read you. lol  Anyway I am here  now. 
  • TinSoldier said on May 12, 2008....
    What's not working? Bad people go to jail. Really bad people stay there.

    Works for me.
  • TinSoldier said on May 12, 2008....
    Sorry, that was flip. Maybe more later.
  • SeanRenaud said on May 12, 2008....
    What's not working is that kinda bad people go to jail and become worse people.  Our gang problem is a direct result of this system.

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