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Ever since I've been on Soulcast, the occasional story or fantasy involving kids would be posted. As a very stern disclaimer was put in the description, I knew enough to avoid it. That stuff is not to my taste, neither do I want to contribute to the writers' click rate.
 
Now that some folks have zeroed in on this content and have singled out the writers personally, the front pages are littered with pedophilic and incestuous content. Again, they are accompanied with very strict disclaimers so I know to just go read something else.
 
It seems to me that an "anonymous", free blogsite will have its share of objectionable material. Now that these folks (or this person, who knows) have been provoked, we are seeing even more of their content. I don't know what Soulcast can do technically to prevent it from being posted, or preventing people from creating multiple accounts.
 
But the next question arises - where does the censorship stop? Why not ban "hate" speech, or racist opinions, or sexist opnions, or political opinions that go against whatever the "majority" thinks? I'm not going to hand out the usual platitudes about freedom of speech. I'm talking about the consequences of pursuing a policy of censorship, however well-intended.
 
Suppose one of you decides to take up a personal quest to oust me because I'm a Bush-supporting curmudgeon who digs at liberals because just for the fun?
 
Seems to me that trying to hound people out will result in two possible outcomes:
 
a) The "offending" party leaves, but the rest of the population will be left wondering if their point of view will next be targeted by these so-called pillars of ethics, law and morality. Or call them self-righteous protective parents. Whatever. People will probably depart for more open pastures.
 
b) The "offending" party digs his heels in and makes us all miserable by pelting us with even more objectionable content. I'm seriously considering leaving because there's little else but child porn up now and I don't wish to be associated with such a site.
 
A mild annoyance has now turned into a digital riot. It wasn't a big deal to me before. Now this place seems the filthier for it. Thanks to all of you for your part in it.


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  • SeanRenaud said on May 09, 2008....
    We brought it on ourselves, ignoring them had been working, now that we've annoyed them they are getting more and more aggressive, and when they are finally driven out the crusade will continue until only the radical right remains.  Not because they make up a majority, but because everybody else isn't as loud, and they are still vultnerable to knee jerk reactions.  Welcome to the beginning of the end
  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 09, 2008....
    I just have one question:  Is it awfully lonely up there on your pedestal?  
  • SeanRenaud said on May 09, 2008....
    A little, but it won't be lonely when hottips finishes and it's just her and cops who fit into the moral code allowed here on SC.  We've already driven off a good majority of our top posters with this BS and backstabbing.
  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 09, 2008....
    It's funny you say that sean...  Though my previous comment wasn't directed at you, I was thinking about what you just pointed out.  It seems that my exp. on SC its last year and this year are vastly different.  We have lost many a quality bloggers that used to post here a lot. 

    I miss a lot of them... 

    You're not planning on going anywhere, are you? 
  • curmudgeon said on May 09, 2008....
    So is it me on the pedestal, Koolaid?
     
    Holding myself above others? Moi?
     
    OK that last line may have been a bit pretensious. Apologies.
     
    Still, between the pederasts, the swami, real estate, tech and all the other sales spammers, it's getting harder and harder to sift through all the crap for decent articles.
  • SeanRenaud said on May 09, 2008....
    I do have to ditto that. Honestly getting rid of Swami would do wonders.  And no I'm still around even if I don't post so much right now.
  • anonymous said on May 09, 2008....
    united
  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 09, 2008....
    curm:  No apologies necessary...  I guess it's rather presumptuous of me to leave pithy comment like such, considering that I generally stay out of the milieu myself. 

    So yes, in a sense I am telling both you and sean that you are on your separate pedestals as I sit comfortably perched in mine.  :)

    Something about glass houses, right?  :D

    And yes, I agree with you also re:  swamis and other spammers.  Clearly the swamis don't know what it means to properly tag their material, either. 

    Sean:  You forgot about LOTR and WOW gold...  Isn't that a violation of TOS also?  I'll have to look... 
  • SeanRenaud said on May 09, 2008....
    I only see one a few of those LOTR & WoW gold things a day.  Swami will eat up a whole page alone. 
     
    Just like Frit was gross with one post every three days.  Now with four alts churning out a combined 40 posts a day now it's a real issue.  One that I might add would have been avoided if we'd continud to ignore him, rather than directly confront him and quote "drag him screaming into the light where surely he will die like the undead scum he is" instead of blooming like a fucking flower.
  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 09, 2008....
    As long as we keep reporting it to SC_help, the admins will have no choice but to look at that crap. 

    Here's how I figure it, see?  Because I have to encounter it and suffer, someone else has to suffer with me...  Might as well be SC admins, right?  Since they're the only ones who can do anything about it... 
  • SeanRenaud said on May 09, 2008....
    LoL.  Now there's the thinking pattern of a rational adult.
  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 09, 2008....
    Do I detect a hint of sarcasm in your comment?  :D

    I've said somewhere before that I've always been in to the idea of making the world pay...  :D

    I've never said anywhere that I was a mature, rational being.  :p

    Share the wealth, share the pain... 
  • SeanRenaud said on May 09, 2008....
    I knew you were a commie!  :-)
  • GrapeKoolaid said on May 09, 2008....
    LOL!!! 

    I almost spit my tea out at the laptop...

    While it is true that I have some leftist tendencies(I did get an education in the "Liberal" arts, after all), there are things about the Liberal ethos that I am not altogether comfortable with. 

    Instead, what I consider myself to be is a genuine third-positionist(As much as I try to avoid isms and ists, it seems rather difficult to do so in this day in age). 

    Perhaps one day I'll do a post on my political position...  I generally try to stay out of the milieu for many reasons, though...  I am often accused of being a commie by the right and a fascist by the left... 

    A question:  Where does an "Anti-capitalist, America-first Isolationist" fall in the political spectrum?  A curious blend of Hamiltonian and Jeffersonian Democrat, I guess...

    I think the term I'm looking for here is:  Confused.  :D
  • Expendable said on May 09, 2008....
    These weren't pedophiles, these were trolls playing a sick game, provoking us. And they got a reaction - exactly what they wanted. So now they're going to play their one card by using alts to flood us with the same posts again and again.
  • travelr712 said on May 09, 2008....
    and this is better than ignoring them how?
  • Expendable said on May 09, 2008....
    SoulCast will make better tools to fix this. ^_^
  • SeanRenaud said on May 10, 2008....
    How long until these tools are useable against us?
  • silverwhisper said on May 10, 2008....
    curm, the whole thing is the result of one person: the idiot that keeps trying to argue with the pedophiles using a primary soulcast username and alts. the really sad thing is that people still can't see that's what's happening here.

    everyone knows that commenting/viewing is the path to pushing something to the featured page. and i think that's precisely what it wants.

    ed

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