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Do you know what its like being caught between many worlds? Let me tell you first hand that its not very nice!! I'm talking about worlds of UK english and US english.
 
I, as an Indian, am caught in a peculiar situation here. All my life right since pre-school I've been schooled in the queen's english. At the same time when the St. Mary's School was trying to grill into me the 'prim-and-propah' queen's english, I was busy picking up all kinds of American slangs from American tv and movies! Add to that the fact that my language also consists of the quintissential Mumbai slang which is quite sticky itself and voila.. you have an unfortunate mixture of english, english and english!! Oh and did I mention the fact that now I have also picked up the sms slang which is basically half the letters off of each word??
 
English is kind of the only language spoken all across India. We do have our naitonal language hindi and about 100 other regional languages, but the national language is not spoken in some parts like the south of India and people from other parts of India don't understand the regional language so the only means of communication then becomes english. What this means is there are various dialects of english spoken within India. And depending on where you've been vaccationing lately you pick up some of that too!
 
Then when you are sitting and cracking your head over an exam paper, it becomes really difficult to not let your various slangs and accents interfere with the queen's english so you don't loose marks over that! The most difficlut slang to avoid is by far the sms slang.. when I am writing 35 pages in my answer sheet in two and a half hours, it is really tempting to write 'u' instead of you and 'ur' instead of your! I swear I have to bite my hand to stop from doing it!! And I write 'color' here but I have to write 'colour' in my exams! Heck, I even have to get myself to write 'colour' in my upcoming GRE test for postraduate application to US universities. Thats just strange!! Why can't they acept 'color'?! Don't ask me..
 
You SCers are lucky in that you only have to read my unfortunate mixture of language and not hear it! Man, are you lucky!! Can you imagine an accent that bounces somewhere between the Indian and the American and the UK and the Mumbai accent? And its not just me, its an entire generation of Indians!! Add to that the fact that my browser is set to American english when I frequently type in the Uk english spellings!! And then I spend another annoying couple of minutes correcting all the spellings to American english because I can't stand those red underlines! I have now turned all my browser settings off. Genius, right?
 
Bah!!!!


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  • secretlife said on Apr 28, 2008....
    you probably speak and write better english than most of the kids here!!!
  • hinana said on Apr 28, 2008....
    lol you probably do have better english then half of us =P
    we have this problem too though. everyone is always using txting or msn, so they shorten everything, and noone speaks the type of english they write..
  • the_infernal_optimist said on Apr 28, 2008....
    That would be difficult!

    I don't speak as formally as I write, and a lot of regional slang works its way into my speech, but it's not nearly as complicated as all of that!

    ~Infernal
  • Trisscar said on Apr 28, 2008....
    YES! I totally know how you feel!!!! I love the letter U....  but I also love my abbreviations too.
     
    And mixing languages can be tough. I live in a native community and I use their slang all the time, and I actually have to watch when I write because I know that most people won't understand what I'm saying. I also have a background in French and I still sometimes say "pamplemoose" instead of grapefruit.
     
    And I hate that most word processors don't recognize english language, and goes with the US spelling here in Canada. I mean... you'd think they'd be nice enough to sell word processors with the written language that is used in the country it's sold in.
     
    Haha, but I do very little proffesional writing so I don't have to worry about it most of the time.  :P
  • Fallyn said on Apr 28, 2008....

    it's funny cause i find myself typing queens english.

    colour etc. i'm not sure why.

    and the funny thing is...my spell checker flags it!

    i think the whole thing with english is just funny.

    my niece and nephew are 5 and 3. and both of them have been raised in both the US and new zealand.

    in the US they sound like they have a new zealand accent....and in new zealand they sound like they have a US accent.....poor kids don't really sound like they actually belong anywhere.

  • mobil said on Apr 28, 2008....
    I agree with SL, and you write real nice too.
  • skald said on Apr 28, 2008....
    You speak and write very good English. I live in a country where we speak our native language but most young people speak English . I speak  English , German and some Danish which we had to learn at school and because of my Icelandic and Danish I understand some Norwegian and Swedish. I did not know you lived in India. 
  • diabolicdame said on Apr 29, 2008....
    SL: Thank you!! It is the language I have been schooled in and it is actually spoken across India so I don't think the credit goes to me.
     
    hinana: Yea I know! The texting lingo really intereferes with my writing! Its just too tempting! lol..
     
    infernal: haha.. yes it is a little complicated.. I find most of the complication arises out of intereference of my american slangs with my UK english. That is officially not correct but so hard to avoid!!
     
    Trisscar: Exactly.. I know just what you're talking about!!
     
    Fallyn: I do the same thing.. thats why I turned off my browser settings cause they were set to American english and I kept typing in UK english! Though I think you can change it UK english but I suspect then I'd keep typing America english spellings!!
     
    mobil: Thank you.  :-)
     
    skald: Wow thats a lot of languages you know! Thats pretty cool.. And you didn't know? I think I have mentioned it before. Anyhow I do live in India.. in Mumbai to be precise.
     
     
  • diabolicdame said on Apr 29, 2008....
    skald: Maybe one of these days I'll take inspiration from you and show you my city in pictures..   :-)
  • destinydiva said on Apr 29, 2008....
    lol!!!    you are a genius dd!!!  :-) and your very funny too :-) xx
  • GrapeKoolaid said on Apr 29, 2008....
    I don't speak no bad american...  I speak good american, dammit...  I speak it real good...  :D

    It may surprise you to know that English is my second language as well.  I learned "Queen's English" growing up, so I used to say "lift" instead of "elevator" and "parcels" instead of "packages" and so on.  Since moving to the States, I've tried very hard to assimilate myself into this foreign culture and now I pop gum and say, "Like, oh my god!"  :)

    Nothing wrong with being a polyglot.  It'll come in useful on many a days.  Believe me. 

    Oh and that bit about turning off your browser spell check, brilliant.  I notice the red lines too, but I ignore it.  ;)
  • diabolicdame said on Apr 29, 2008....
    destinydiva: Thanks des.. hahaha.. if I have to be stuck in frustrating situations, the least I can do is laugh at myself!! ;-)

    Grape: You  sure don't speak no bad american!! And actually I wouldn't have known you grew up on queen's english had you not told me. I do the 'lift' for elevator and 'parcel' for package thing all the time!! I'm glad you think being a polyglot can be useful.. I sure hope so! Lol. This reminds of a joke I once heard actually...

    Two men were waiting in the lobby of a building. One of them was american and one british.

    american: Are you waiting for the elevator as well?
    brit: Yes I am and actually and it isn't an elevator, it is a lift.
    american: We invented the elevator. I know what its called.
    brit: That may be but we invented english. I know what everything is called!

    ;-)

  • dailyachesandpains said on Apr 29, 2008....
    You do speak so well! 
    Like some have said, better than most people here in the US!
     
    Daily
  • Zayda said on Apr 29, 2008....
    Diabolic: I grew up in the states, but when I was in elementary school, I actually learned the British English spelling of many words including colour, and theatre, for instance. My kindergarten through 2nd grade school teachers told me that either spelling was perfectly acceptable. I still use them regularly today.


    However, when my dad retired from the military and we moved, I changed schools. My third grade teacher informed me that only the proper American spellings were acceptable. And I was so mad at her for saying so that for awhile I purposely used British English spellings every chance I got.


    I had to smile when I read what you said about SMS language, or "text speak" as we sometimes call it here. You see, I teach English; more precisely, I teach Composition classes and Technical Writing classes at an American University. I can't tell you how many times I have circled and marked off the use of "u" for "you", or "ur" for "your" or even the use of "4" for "for" or the "@" symbol for "at" in my student's papers.


    And I can tell you that you actually do have a better grasp of English than many of the students here do when they first walk into my classroom.
  • skald said on Apr 29, 2008....
    Dia.  I would like to see your city. In pictures if I can't come. Would like to see India one day and I want to see so many places. lol. Would like to know what you look like too but that is too much to ask about. Have a good evening. Or is it night by you now? 
  • diabolicdame said on Apr 29, 2008....
    Hey skald.. its not too much to ask at all! You see the top post on my popular posts list? 'Let's play a little guessing game'? Theres my pictures in it. And I will surely show around if you ever do get here.. or atleast in pictures sometime soon.. I promise.  Oh and yes it is night. Thanks and you have a good evening as well..   :-)
  • skald said on Apr 29, 2008....
    Dia  I am so glad I recognized  you. I looked for a girl that is mature for her age.  You know has this kind of maturity of the soul and that was the girl on the end. the one with the green bag, Now I can't prove it because I read it afterwards but I was sure she was you. You must believe me. You are all so beautiful on the picture. The girl I mean. I did not see this post so thank you very much. 
  • skald said on Apr 29, 2008....
    Sorry I forgot to thank you for the offer of showing me around. I was so excited. Thanks Dia. 
  • Lucytorial said on Apr 29, 2008....
    It annoys me to no end to have to spend time changing this bad american spelling over the queens english.

    Colour is colour not color are you crazy, color is a collar said incorrectly and spelled illiterately.. imo.... but thats how I was bought up.
  • silverwhisper said on Apr 29, 2008....
    diabolic, if you had never said you were indian, i wouldn't have guessed your first words weren't english. :>

    i've worked with non-native english speakers before in my last 2 jobs extensively, so i'm pretty attuned to detecting non-american english but you'd have fooled me completely!

    :>

    ed
  • diabolicdame said on Apr 30, 2008....
    daily: Thank you so much..  :-)

    Zayda: Haha.. feisty little girl you were! I would have done the same.. lol.. and I'm sure many of my teachers have circled off those 'u's and 'ur's in my papers as well! As much as I try to keep them out, sometimes its just too hard!! lol.. And thank you for the compliment about my english. Given that you teach it at university level, that really means something!  :-)

    skald: *smiling* I'm sure you knew right away who I was! You're just wise like that.. I can tell.. :-)
    Thank you for the compliment also.. and I would love showing you around.. completely my pleasure.. :-)

    LucyT: Yes thats also how I have been brought up but then.. as I said.. I have been adulterated by many worlds now!! It is annoying though.. I agree!

    Ed: Haha.. thanks.. I actually almost fool myself too sometimes.. lol.. One time I spent a day with an Irish woman and for the next couple of weeks I was speaking in an irish accent!! Same thing happened when I spent a couple of days with a dutch girl.. I guess I adapt a bit too fast! lol..
  • silverwhisper said on May 01, 2008....
    i know what you mean about adapting--it's something that i tend to do, too! :D

    ed

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