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Zionist Trolls A paraphrased post I borrowed...

You've all encountered them in the comments sections of soulcast articles, I'm sure. Zionist Trolls.

Zionist Trolls come in all flavors. There are Ashkenazim Zionist trolls with their angry, twisted-logic rhetoric, and there are arguably Zionist Trolls within the Sephardi ranks as well.

Is it possible to clearly define what makes someone a Zionist troll? I think it is. A Zionist troll is someone who spreads obvious Zionist disinformation, often reposting the same disinformation as comments on multiple articles. This is a form of spam.

Further, Zionist Trolls will often have a minimal, or even no Bio listed, or a bogus bio, often use fake names and will have never posted an article or diary, or at most a few flimsy articles or diaries.

Zionist Trolls generally have a clearly defined agenda, and almost always use negative attacks, ad hominem comments, flat-out lies or they try to hijack threads, taking them far away from the focus of the article. Another common Zionist Troll maneuver is to re-post lies or urban legends.

Zionist Trolls do not further the discussion, and they do not help the site and its community grow. They are a saboteur in the machine, a monkey wrench in the works, a fly in the ointment.

Keep in mind that most discussion sites accept comments from right wingers with intelligent and well written articles, diaries and comments. We expect civility from them as well as from our progressive members. It is NOT appropriate to flag a comment just because the right winger embraces a right wing position. Please don't call the commenter names.

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  • Lucytorial said on Apr 18, 2008....
    tee he hee hehee
  • curmudgeon said on Apr 18, 2008....
    You mean like calling me nuts?
  • sheltercrow said on Apr 18, 2008....
  • crybabylu said on Apr 18, 2008....
    So, Shelter, do you know any Zionist Trolls currently here at SoulCast?
  • sheltercrow said on Apr 18, 2008....
    No
  • crybabylu said on Apr 18, 2008....
    Well that is most certainly a relief!
  • Expendable said on Apr 19, 2008....

    Most of that is what regular trolls do, so why drag in the zionists?

  • crybabylu said on Apr 19, 2008....

     

    Hi my sweet!...Oh and you  do too!  Lot's of work goes into your writings, no doubl about that...but fair and balance, presents both sides in an equal fashion.  lovey......excuse me now, hun, but I gotta run over to your other blog to see what my Zionist friends are saying.......LOL

  • sheltercrow said on Apr 20, 2008....
    Expendable

    "Most of that is what regular trolls do, so why drag in the zionists?"

    Because Zionist Trolls are such wonderful examples of Trolls. And they have some very determined Meat Puppets in their ranks.
  • Expendable said on Apr 21, 2008....
    I'd call that a political subset among trolls.č?
  • jerusalem said on Apr 23, 2008....

    i read something like what you wrote and i agree with you , but many readers may be want more explanation to understands your meaning.

    best regards

    www.theblogger.co.nr

  • sheltercrow said on Apr 23, 2008....
    A problem with trolls is that they intentionally make bogus statements that sound legitimate, most often without source or at most a red herring source. What makes Trolls, well Trolls, is that they never intended to make an assertion based on truth. Just an assertion that sounds like the truth and hope you bite for the false assertion as truth and play along.

    Now the Zionist Troll is quite an interesting character. When talking of Israel it's easy to manipulate people and he/she knows it. People can become quite brain dead when it comes to the Bible so the Zionist Troll will use the Bible as a hook. It doesn't have to have anything to do with the topic but throw in a biblical quote or two and you have a few more of the brain dead hooked.

    They use U.N. resolution 242 and 183 quite often hoping you take their word for it that it proves their point. That works quite often and another set of the brain dead are hooked.

    They substitute the term Israel for Judea hoping again you will play along and assume the two are the same. Then another user falls.

    The meat puppet Troll is also an interesting character. After having his argument debunked, which does show some respect by the debunker, will make the same set of bogus claims on another thread. The extreme meat puppet will make the same set of bogus claim on the same thread to a new commenter. And the cycle is repeated.

    A Zionist meat puppet will use all the bogus claims as of a Zionist Troll in a meat puppet role. Very tedious.

    The honest commenter simply makes a comment knowing he/she can find the sources he/she has used if asked. The longer you are on-line the more you find that honesty is a rare commodity.
  • sheltercrow said on Apr 23, 2008....
    Another type of troll is the one who will endlessly question your honest assertions without actually having much knowledge of the issue. He/she hopes that you will become convinced of their authority on the issue, by their simply asking a bunch of, usually leading, questions. When cornered they simply respond by saying "you haven't answered my question" over and over again. The fake professor troll had no honest question to answer in the first place. He/she was trying to lead you to his/her bogus assertion of his/her authority.

    My answer to that is to place your link and some pertinent text in the comment. It tends to make the professor troll less apt to strike. It's tedious but effective.

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