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Hi everybody,

I’m hoping to open up a little bit of discussion and get some comments in with this blog, as I ask a question of the bdsm community, or just any generally interested parties.

Sex in a bdsm / D/s relationship – does it always have to be D/s sex?

I’m asking this as a genuine question (or series of questions) to find out what others in D/s relationships think? Is sex always “a scene”? Are you always the submissive during sex? Is bdsm sex always preferred to regular sex? Do you wish that more of your sexual activities had bdsm inclinations? Can you turn off the submissive (or dominant) side of you and enjoy regular vanilla sex with no bdsm connotations?

This topic isn’t just open to bdsm participators – if you have a thought on this topic, please chime in.

My thoughts first… for me, my experiences and current situation show me that there are quite a few different general sex types.

We could have “scene sex” – a set scene where we know our roles within the experience. This is the type where more toys and bondage type paraphanalia are most likely used.

Or we could have D/s sex – no scene or premise, but it is clearly geared towards him using me and my body as he sees fit, probably less toys and equipment used, it’s more the mentality that He is the Master and I am the submissive.

Or we could just have regular sex, “make love” if you will. Nothing else to it other than enjoying each others company, and bodies, for mutual pleasure and satisfaction. Strangely enough, I often take much more of a lead role in this type of sex, despite being the submissive in general, and in other sex types. I’ve actually often been seen as an aggressive and forward sexual partner, especially when in past relationships that have been away from the bdsm / D/s realm.

Of the three above, Scene Sex is what it is, it doesn’t ever really develop directly into anything else, although can be followed or preluded by something else. Such as recently we had some very scene derived sex. I had on a leather collar that is connected to wrist cuffs behind my back, disabling me somewhat. This was coupled with a ball gag and heavy butt plug usage leading up to some amazing anal sex that bordered on the pleasure/pain divide. Afterwards He held me in His arms, we cuddled, we shared the tender moments, and then we made love. Very tender and gentle love-making, with me taking the more active leading role. I guess it could also be considered his treat to me after I had been so good and obedient before.

However, from my experience, D/s sex, and Regular sex are compatible and interchangeable. We’ve often started out having D/s sex, where I am being somewhat “used” and am fully aware of it, but then somewhere half way through it will turn into mad, passionate love-making, with no gearing towards any one of us in particular. Just equals. Naked, sweaty, sex-crazed equals! Lol

And it can happen the other way as well, where something that starts out as regular sex somewhere along the line turns into D/s sex, becoming less gentle and sweet, and becoming more furious and dominant.

Which do I prefer? I couldn’t pick – after living this life I would feel incomplete if any one part of it was no longer there. It’s great to never really know what you are going to get, living a sex-life full of surprises. It’s great, I love it, and I wouldn’t have it any other way!

So what are your thoughts and experiences about the divides between vanilla sex and bdsm sex? Do you have a distinct split between the two, or do you only partake in the one type? Which kind do you prefer, or which would you like to have more of or less of?

The forum is now yours – lets hear from you. :-)

Blog comments, private messages, or private e-mails to blogslut13@yahoo.co.uk (if you don't want to speak in the public domain) all welcome. :-)

Take care, and have fun.

Blogslut xxx

 



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  • pusscat said on Apr 14, 2008....
    Hello there you!  First, I'm really pleased everything has been going well (as it obviously has *smile*) since you moved in.
     
    Right - back to sex ha ha!  Personally, i prefer D/s sex most of all the 'types' you mention above.  As you know, my hubby (Dom) and I have not been into the lifestyle very long and he has been quite ill during that time.  This means that the sex aspect of our D/s life is mainly what we have been doing so far.  I did worry that I would struggle to do anything other than scene sex if i was not disciplined anywhere else in my life at the moment but last night proved me wrong.
     
    We put on a mainly vanilla DVD to 'assist' hubby get in the mood.  We quickly went to the bedroom and began what i thought would be vanilla sex / love making that I wasn't that fussed on.  I asked hubby if I could still call him Sir and be his submissive as that is really what I truly wanted.  He said absolutely and that he actually preferred those roles during sex.  Like you said, it was D/s sex and lovemaking with hardly any toys used and not too rough.  He was able to tell me to do certain things he liked with an immediate reaction from me.  I got much more pleasure than I ever did in vanilla sex or lovemaking I was greatly pleasing him. 
     
    I really look forward to hearing many other's points of view.  Strange as it may sound, it never occurred to me we could do D/s sex without it being a full scene - stupid i know.
     
    Lovely to have you back bs
  • lfbno7 said on Apr 14, 2008....
    I don't know what D/s means. I know what BDSM means. I don't like vanilla sex. I need some kind of give and take. I like to give, to be used by a woman. I like to be submissive and have her doing exactly what she wants to do, while I'm doing exactly what she wants me to do. I need that kind of rapport in order to get into it.

    But I find that a lot of time, women don't want to do that. So my second choice is to hurt her and use her. That can work too, but it is definitely a second choice for me, and I only would do it if she wants me to, so I'm still being submissive in a sense by being dominant. I wouldn't hurt her seriously, just a slap or a pinch or hair pull, something to make her go OWWW. Mount on her torso, press her hands to the bed hard, squeeze her hands, pull her hair enough to hurt her, pinch her nipples til I get a reaction, look into her eyes, come on her face, that sort of thing. Or else lay on my back while she's sitting on top of me facing my feet, and I'm fucking her and spanking her at the same time. That works too.

    Hey, whatever works. Whatever gets you two off. I didn't choose to be into S/M. That's just what works for me. And it wouldn't work if it was too rough and actually did hurt or frighten her. That would horrify me and I'd never do it. Sex is fantasy but it's not violence.
  • onlymimi said on Apr 15, 2008....
    mr7, D/s stands for Dominance/submission, kind of a synonym for BDSM. 
     
    I agree with you, bs, that D/s sex and regular sex can intermingle quite easily.  From time to time, I really enjoy taking the lead, and making a man dance to my tune.  Yet, I don't identify myself as a switch.  Most of the time, I much prefer to submit to my Master.  As a matter of fact, He and I have never strayed from that dynamic.  He is the Dominant.  Period.  And I love it that way.  D/s sex is much more emotionally satisfying for me.  It touches places in my mind and soul that vanilla sex never has.
     
    I can't even imagine what His reaction would be if I said, This time we're doing it my way.   LOL
  • lfbno7 said on Apr 15, 2008....
    No, don't say This time we're doing it my way.

    Say This time we're doing it my way, bitch.
  • blogslut said on Apr 15, 2008....
    Hi Pusscat - thanks for the comments. After a lifetime of "vanilla sex", it wouldn't be surprising that you prefer D/s sex right now. Maybe you'll find there's a happy medium between the two at some point though. Or maybe you're just a little more submissive natured than I am, as I do like to be able to switch off the D/s stuff occasionally (in sex or non-sex) to help get some life perspective and get a real feel for what's going on in my head.
     
    Ifbno - sounds like you like D/s sex, but are actually a switch. Interesting, very interesting indeed! Do you have dominant or submissive tendencies outside of the bedroom, or is it just a sex thing for you?
     
    Mimi - Dominance and Submission are a funny thing. Some people theorise that the submissive actually holds all the power, which is an interesting theory, but not one for this blog commentary. But based on that, it isn't surprising that the submissive female (ala you or I) take a little sexual control occasionally. Or it could just be that all males, dominant or otherwise, enjoy a sexually confident woman - it's a gene thing I think. So they don't mind laying back and getting some pleasure with much less work and less need for dominance and control, but always knowing they can take control back any time they please. I guess it's a simple case that I know I can't be completely submissive 24 hours a day, so I wouldn't have thought a Dominant male could be completely Dominant 24 hours a day without it driving him a little crazy either.
     
    Just some thoughts - my mind works in a strange and thought-provoking way sometimes. :-)
     
    Blogslut xx
  • lfbno7 said on Apr 15, 2008....
    I'm generally submissive outside the bedroom, just in the sense that I'm laid back and don't compete with people, and want them to be happy. But when someone is rude to me they hear it from me, and then I get dominant. Another aspect of my personality is that sometimes I really don't have a mind of my own, don't have preferences, just want to please the other person, do whatever they would like to do rather than insisting on my own way. If we were going to the movies and you suggested a movie I had no interest in, I would say yes, let's go see it, because that is what you want to do.
  • onlymimi said on Apr 15, 2008....

    Well, now, isn't that an interesting idea...  I must admit I've never thought about that before.  That would be a fascinating discussion to have.  I also would find being submissive 24 hours a day very stifling.  There are times when I really have to bite my tongue to avoid topping from the bottom. 

    Even when I want to be the one in charge, my focus is always on my partner's pleasure.  So in that way, wanting and needing to serve and please, I'm always in a submissive mindset.  Sometimes I would just love to have Him lay back and let me have my way with Him.

  • blogslut said on Apr 16, 2008....
    Ifbno - maybe you're not dominant or submissive, maybe you're just weird! haha. I'm only joking - I can't remember the number of times people have called me weird! Being laid back and wanting to just go along with life isn't necessary submissive in general, but it may be a symptom of it...
     
    mimi - i agree with you in that I'm the same way when it comes to the focus being on my partner's pleasure. So I'd also say that I'm always in the submissive mindset, but I sometimes wonder if that's a very vanilla desire. The pleasure of others - if they enjoy it, you enjoy it. If they didn't enjoy it, it wouldn't be all that much fun for you - so your actual end destination that you're trying to get to is your pleasure. Hence the theories on the submissive actually being in control that a couple of people have recently been telling me about and exchanging thoughts with me on. Not that I fully agree with it, but I can see the position they're coming from.
     
    Blogslut xx
  • BDSMrose said on Apr 16, 2008....
    I think that if you don't mix it up whatever you do is going to end up getting old fast. My Husband and I tend to save the scene/props sex for when we have more time. Vanilla and D/s is about 80% percent of the time.
  • His_SunShine said on Apr 20, 2008....
    Funny you should ask this, since it's been on my mind lately.  I seem to have a problem with understanding the whole idea of doing a "scene" in general, and so far I've refused to use that term to refer to our time together.  For me, it implies that the whole thing is nothing more than playacting....which for me is a huge turn-off.  Even though it is a game, in a way.  My Dom and I decided early on that it was a game, but a very serious one.
     
    He is amazing in that he always seems to know when I need to be in "discipline mode" as we call it, and when I just need some normal, vanilla TLC (although even our vanilla sex usually has a couple elements of D/s).  If we go too long without a full-blown D/s session, I start to crave it, and the only relief is to be disciplined.
     
    Other times, I'm not in the mood, or we don't have enough time.  Just last week, I was 15 minutes late meeting him, which would normally result in a pretty intense discipline session, but as I got into his car I said, "I had a terrible, stressful weekend and I really don't feel like being punished for being late right now.  I just want to be with you."  And we ended up talking, cuddling, and having the sweetest vanilla sex. 
     
    So for me, I need the D/s more, but I also need the occasional vanilla respite.
  • jezzabell said on Apr 28, 2008....
    What a great question!

    I can sum up my feelings fairly simply - I can be in a D/s relationship, and not be in love - Then, of course, the sex would be all about D/s or BDSM.
     
    When I am in love with my partner, I think that it's normal to have a mixture of both. I find that I feel a different kind of love during D/s sex, than I do during "normal" sex. Love, both times of course, just different.
     
    It's the same with an act as simple as kissing, he could grab my hair, pull me towards him, and kiss me hard, or just look over at me, smile, and kiss me, being ever so gentle.
     
    It's all amazing, and I appreciate both, at different times, when I'm down, there is nothing better than him holding me in his arms, when I'm being an excited brat, it's nice that he's ruff.
     
    I'd like my cake, and be able to eat it too :P
  • collared_whore said on Apr 29, 2008....
    Great post and comments!   In adding my thoughts, i will start with where Master and i always end up:  my head on His chest, hugging, snuggling and loving each other.  The path W/we take to get to that ultimate finale differs each time--which keeps things amazingly fresh--but that sweet ending is a beautiful given.  When W/we scene, with bondage and pain, it always is interspersed with sexuality:  denied and then forced orgasms for  me; deep throating, three hole penetration and the like.  Master believes, and i agree, that the end point of a scene is sexual release.  Of course, that may not be true for all those who play, but that is how W/we like it, horny perverts that W/we are.  :)  
     
    There are also times that W/we don't do a formal scene, but W/we fuck like wild animals.  Interestingly, even when it isn't a formal scene and we are "just" enjoying each other with abandon, i am still submissive to Him, whether overtly (as in rough, "taken" fucking) or implicitly (having Him take the lead and asking to pretty please be allowed to suck His cock).  i think that is part of how W/we do the 24/7 thing; there is always an undercurrent of submission on my part and Domination on His underlying all O/our interactions.  Having that undercurrent, no matter how faint, really works for U/us.   
     
    And of course there are times when W/we make love.  i have to say that i have never made love with anyone the way W/we do; it really feels like W/we become one, O/our passion for each other is so strong.  Then there are the times like others have mentioned, where the lines are blurred and what starts our as animalistic plundering turns into sweet passionate love making or vice verse.
     
    The common denominators among all these different scenarios are passion and intensity.  i wouldn't give those things up for the world.  All in all, it is an incredibly delicious mixture of flavors.       
  • his-slut said on Jun 09, 2008....
    I don't see a difference.  If the D steps back and allows "vanilla sex" then they are still in control, even if they let you take the lead.  I don't think it matters if it's playing ascene, with or without toys, or bondage.  If your master has control in the relationship it is his/her choice to what extent they will exert it at any given time.  If your master wanted D/sex and you wanted "vanilla sex"  would you deny him/her?  Wouldn't that lead to punishment?
  • pusscat said on Jun 10, 2008....
    his-slut that is such a good point.  I had not looked at it in that way but you do put a different stance on things that I find myself agreeing with
     
    x
  • blogslut said on Jun 10, 2008....
    his-slut... excellent point, and very astutely observed. Top marks for you today! :-)
     
    It is indeed his choice as to what kind of sex we have and when, and I would never deny him if his choice didn't match mine. I just think it's nice that he doesn't have to assert his dominance at all times, although I am always fully aware of the underlying nature of the Dom/sub divide. Even when we're just hanging out "vanilla" style, I'd never do anything to undermine the Dominant authority that he possesses.
     
    Blogslut xx

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