• Fallyn said on Mar 11, 2008....

  this makes sense to me......i'm not sure of my own sexuality...and what it's based on.
  i have attraction to women...i believe.
  but it's not something i could pursue a relationship in.....
  i know my gender preference is male.....but.....the extent i really like women hasn't really been quantified.
  not sure how much experience it would take to quantify it.
  
  

• whoreslave said on Mar 11, 2008....

  *laughs* Only once, if it's the right woman.
  I still reserve the right to fall madly in love and/or lust with a woman, if the situation arises- I see no reason to say "It could never happen", or to resist it if it does... I'm just not going to seek it out.
  My main purpose, I suppose, in proclaiming primarily heterosexuality is probably to discourage the "girl on girl" lusts that the word bisexual inevitably triggers in pretty much every straight male on the planet. In cyber situations, I've actually considered going as far as declaring myself homophobic (falsely, of course!) just because I'm sick to death of males in dominant positions consistently thrusting me (no pun intended) into girl-girl play. It's bordering on a personal peeve... a favorite rant. What is the deal? I'm a straight, sub woman, but I get more virtual pussy than most of the males I know online, COMBINED!
  By the same annoying token, those same thrusters,(pun intended this time,) seem to delight in or even expect that they're doing me a favor with this behavior- as if they assume all bisexual women are lesbians first, and like men second. AND, they seem to think that with a woman, I'm going to be thrilled to play Dominant all the sudden, too! I very much enjoy cyber play of all sorts, but ... I seriously wish these people would get their own preferences in order, and pay a little common-sense attention to the interests and preferences of those they choose to play with!
  And if by chance there are any such folk reading this post... Just for the record, IF you find a few submissive gals on the furs/tiles/servery/whatever of some Dom/sub oriented cyber setting, and you're the only Dominant around, then you don't have to play with everyone. You don't HAVE to assume that all the other subs will feel left out! And if you DO really want to include several, commanding them to do each other for your amusement really, seriously, is NOT what they came here for. The kajirae might giggle happily and romp one another on the furs for your entertainment, but rest assured... if they're Gorean, they came here for Dominant males, not to lick pussy. If they're Solaran slaves, they are even LESS likely to have come here to lick pussy. I do hope this clarifies things for those who seem compelled to persist in this... we honestly WON'T feel spurned because you didn't order us into a double muff-dive, just because we happen to be there!
  /rant. *lol*

• Fallyn said on Mar 11, 2008....

  *giggling* wow.
  
  something i have noticed though.
  since being sexually involved with a couple of women.....i find that it's much easier to open up to other women in friendship.
  yes i know this has nothing to do with your post. :P but.....just something i've noticed.
  
  i'm rather notorious around people that know me because i have so few female friends.
  

• whoreslave said on Mar 12, 2008....

  Huhn. I find exactly the opposite. I more often find talking to women to be an uncomfortable experience all around. There are a few I've known I was casual and comfortable with, but most of the time, I don't trust them at all... *blushes a bit* To be perfectly honest, I don't even really *like* most of them. (No offense.) Might be one of the reasons I find I'm just not so bi as I thought I was.

• Sickman said on Mar 12, 2008....

  Every man thinks about it, well not 'every' man. Heck, I commented on your threads in reverse order, as I'm wont to do. So I figured I would have nothing to say on this topic at all.
  
  And then about half a second later I thought up of three different things I could bring up. Great how the mind works, hey?
  
  For me, whose Dominance is so varied, girl on girl play actually consists of a VERY small role. Interestingly enough *and perhaps to your dismay?* a lot of Roman Shower video's around are girl x girl, my belief being that it is somewhat of a discipline thing in some asiatic and middle eastern cultures *Correct me if I'm wrong, I haven't exactly researched it*
  
  That's not to say, of course, that that isn't at least mildly arousing. But I'd rather see a girl throwup from her own inability to keep a cock down her god damn throat. That and it feels good...very good. That and it brings up a whole list of things you can mention about their failures/inabilities/lack of skill in pleasing a man. Depending on where you want to go.
  
  Right, getting back on topic *Was almost about to slip there - And as we know, backspace is only used to correct spelling mistakes or when I make an absolute and genuine ass out of myself* wait, what was the topic again?
  
  So what would be considered my favorite all time Girl on Girl action? Virtually scening with women is always pissy business, unless both girls know their place and aren't massive attention whores. Which I see as topping from the bottom anyway, and a girl quickly gets ignored for that. *By the way, you must scene a LOT to get more pussy than me....but I'm not going to get into a pissing match or measuring contest*
  
  My favorite girl on girl action actually requires very little on the part of one girl. This roleplay is only ever effective if one girl has an attachment to myself, and I've been fortunate enough to roleplay this both on and off-line. Perhaps it is something you've done and found boring, who knows. Either way, as the monty python crew once said 'Get on with it!'
  
  Lets use yourself as an example, because otherwise it gets too clinical You're in a M/s relationship with myself, and have been so for a while, the devotion is there, along with many other attachment filled qualities, assuming I've been active enough to keep them foremost in your thoughts. *Really not a hard thing, so many guys don't get that.* So for a few days I seem disinterested in actually using you as a cock-sheath *I REALLY like that term now, thankyou* Still playing with you of course, but no penetration.
  
  Then I one night, after binding you into a comfortable position, where you can see the bed, I invite a woman over, usually someone I 'know' you'll consider more attractive than yourself *I've never met a girl who isn't self-concious about that, if you are one, congratulations!* And basically fuck the shit out of her, take her the way I know you love to be taken the most, all the while having the girl humiliate you in reference to me, 'See how undeserving you are of your Master's Seed?' there are other's but I'm sure you can imagine past that.
  
  The ending is good, when she takes a load in her mouth, grips your cheeks to force your jaw open, and feeds you my cum. Mentioning how 'the only time you're worthy of recieving his cum is when it comes from someone else' Women can be really nasty sometimes.
  
  Now, this has a profound mental effect on some women, on others not so much. But I think that you'll understand the attractiveness of such a thing from my point of view, even if it isn't something you would ever consider being arousing. The best bit for him is that activity, and for her, the aftercare. At least that's the way it's been from my experience.
  
  P.S. I should write a fricken novella with the length of these posts.
  

• Sickman said on Mar 12, 2008....

  Lastly, Amen to your reply-post regarding women romping each other on the furs for a Dom's amusement.
  
  That's just an excuse for poor roleplaying, or lack thereof. And should be avoided. It doesn't JUST irk the females either, if another man comes in, and two women are mid-romp, are they likely to go and grab a female? sure, if they are a regular, who have their preferred fur-habiting girl, then they might, but most of the 'come once, or a few time' men, are just going to sit, watch, and tug off.
  
  So the females get shafted, twice. And whilst I might be a sadist, and this DOES mildly tickle those bones for just how plain deviously subtle a punishment it is...Don't do it.
  

• Fallyn said on Mar 12, 2008....

  i'm just starting to explore my submissive side....and have come to find, that though i'm submissive....i'm not as submissive as i once thought.....or are there degrees?
  
  the roleplay scene you just described would be extremely painful.
  i don't think i could stay in that kind of relationship if a guy did that.
  
  tying me up and making me watch.....that would be fun.
  being made to feel not worthy........that's the part of the brand of submissive you guys here talk about that i just can't get past.
  
  i haven't explored fully what i like and don't like......
  but there are things that i KNOW i don't like.......and being made to feel worthless...and being humiliated are two i cannot stomach.
  
  
  

• Sickman said on Mar 13, 2008....

  Fallyn
  Absolutely, everyone has different degrees of submission, massively so, and just because you are not interested in this level of kink doesn't mean you should feel bad about it. For the most part, this is some of the heaviest kink you'll ever see.
  The phrase 'Your kink is not my kink' has been around for a long time. The thing that I'm most grateful for is that you accept that these sorts of kink exist.
  Don't believe that just because you're not into this extreme form doesn't mean you aren't as submissive. A lot of these play levels are the sort of play that some only involve with slavehood. Or extreme purists, S&M afficionado's and the like.
  So don't think you're a wuss, or anything like that. A LOT of my friends within the scene would not have more than a suede flogger raised to their skin *And whilst I can cause a lot of pain with a suede flogger, it's not really designed for that* and would say no to any form of humiliation, incl sex in public even.
  Does this make them not submissive? Not a chance.
  So don't worry about your lack of interest in activities, submission is a mindset, and it's not one that one falls into at the click of someones fingers. It takes certain people, who are into your own likes, to really bring that out.
  Just remember also, that this isn't the be all and end all of the people typing these blogs. I don't know how whoreslave started her BDSM side, perhaps she will share sometime. I'd certainly be curious to know what it takes to corrupt someone into that level of depravity without actually ruining them *This is actually a round about compliment for you whoreslave, shock!*
  But yes, I myself jumped into the deep end when I started. But I've been involved in very fulfilling relationships that haven't even come close to brushing on the sort of thing I mention along here.
  I'd almost say go to bondage.com's forums, but would you get as many people who are this open and frank with you? Probably not.

• Fallyn said on Mar 13, 2008....

  there are so many things that turn me on...that people that are into humiliation and slave play wouldn't even go for.......so...i think it's not even a matter of degree.......sometimes its just a matter of directions that you choose to go...and what turns you on.

• Sickman said on Mar 13, 2008....

  Really? Such as? I am into humiliation and slave play, but you might be suprised at just what simple things can arouse and delight. For instance, running my hand over the small of her back. Merely having her sit on the floor in between my legs as we watch television. Many simple, basic things have turn on value for me, and a lot of them are non-sexual in nature.

• Fallyn said on Mar 13, 2008....

  oh god, little things really turn me on too.....that would take pages and pages to list.
  but as for other kinks...the bigger more surprising ones.....
  blood play.....dangerous i know.....especially with my blood disorder....but it fascinates and excites me. ....unfortunately that's one that can't be indulged on a whim.
  teasing and deprivation.
  rape and physical force. i like being shown how strong a man is.
  bondage......
  pain.
  
  most of all i'd have to say, being a plaything.
  an adored and beloved pet.
  one you want to hold on your lap and just stroke.
  one you enjoy spoiling.
  
  i want someone to cause pain because i love the sensation and they love seeing the look on my face when they do what i like.
  
  why do you pet a cat?
  not only does it's fur feel soft and nice......but also because the cat enjoys it so much and that gives a pleasure of it's own kind.
  
  maybe i'm too full of my own worth......but a pet of my talents is valuable....a rare and precious find.......and i expect to be treated as such.
  

• Sickman said on Mar 14, 2008....

  Boy has this gotten off topic.
  
  See, what you state is certainly the traits of a Bottom. So don't worry about that in the slightest.
  
  But I should note. I'm a monster, I could imagine that 99 percent of Dominants don't mentally consider the things I do, and even less would actually act on a decent portion of them.
  
  Something you might want to begin to think of is that a Dominant that matches your own likings is equally rare and precious. And maybe he also expects to be treated as such.
  

• whoreslave said on Mar 14, 2008....

  *Smiles*
  Fallyn- you're a painslut! No offense- YKiOK, as we say- Your Kink is OK. But that explains a lot, although it surprises me, since you've expressed a lot of fear in other posts. I suppose, in hindsight, that makes sense as well- if you know you enjoy being hurt, then you might equate it to the "cutting" phenomenon, and worry about the damage and physical harm it might lead to, especially if you trust someone, and it turns out you shouldn't have.

• Fallyn said on Mar 14, 2008....

  whore. *grin* i'm still trying to figure myself out.
  there is fear....and then there is fear to be conquered.
  and explain painslut. *laughing*
  i've also been called a do-me queen......but she didn't know me very well....so...*shrug* :P
  

• Fallyn said on Mar 14, 2008....

  oh yes, sickman....define monster.
  there really isn't anything that would shock me.
  you can go ahead and try. :P
  

• whoreslave said on Mar 14, 2008....

  Fallyn- you said:
  "i want someone to cause pain because i love the sensation and they love seeing the look on my face when they do what i like."
  
  THAT is a pain slut. There are many ways of relating to pain- the most obvious, normal way is to shun it, fear it, avoid it, and suffer unhappily when one can't. You say that you enjoy pain... would ask for pain... even beg for it... that you gain pleasure from it, and from having it inflicted upon you. The literary term for this is "masochist". In the Scene, masochists fit right in- those who enjoy inflicting pain, and who like to *compete* with the painslut, by pushing her harder, and trying to make her want it to end... they love a good solid painslut.
  There's those who gain from suffering, spiritually, emotionally, even physically, like those who use pain as a meditative tool, and the sports-junkie, who revels in the endorphans.
  And at the other end of the scope is me.... and I imagine, others like me, though I've met very few, who genuinely don't enjoy the suffering and pain itself at all, except laterally- by the association of another's enjoyment of that cruelty.
  Make sense?

• Fallyn said on Mar 14, 2008....

  it does make sense.

  i also enjoy that he likes it so much...i enjoy very much that he likes biting me so hard the marks don't go away for three days or more. i like it when he rubs his finger over the mark a day later and remembers.

  but i also enjoy the pain.....especially the after effects of it. the sensation it leaves behind.

• DaddysLittleSlut said on Mar 14, 2008....

  I'm reading through your post, whoreslave and the comments and still can't stop thinking about how horny and ripped off i'd feel having to get my Master's cum from some other bitch.  damn I want my turn...  please
  Thanks Sickman
  But, what was the topic?
  hmm...oh yeah some women get me aroused and I can picture myself with them, but, i think i'd like a guy involved as a third party... maybe someday i can experiment.
   
  ♥ dsl

• Fallyn said on Mar 14, 2008....

  experimenting with that is really fun.......
  i think i get off on those maybe too much...and for not great reasons.....but......*blushing* um....yeah.
  anyway.
  

• Sickman said on Mar 15, 2008....

  Fallyn, I could, but the point is that many wannabe's would pipe up with their own comments regarding it, not the sort of behaviour I'd like to endorse on these boards *Indeed it already occurs enough, especially on any woman who seems to have two breasts and a heartbeat*
  
  I find Painslut is pretty much a good version of the vibe I'm getting from you, unlike masochist, which is a very broad term, painslut is very much specific. And of course we're not exactly attempting to define you, are we? :P
  
  DLS *Not sure what dsl is, apart from the type of internet connection I'm on* I'm glad I could lead you to your own musings for quite some time there ;) Hope it was as good for you reading it as it was for me writing it.
  
  Oh, spit roasting is fun....very fun....especially if you get someone else who knows how to fuck properly.
  

• DaddysLittleSlut said on Mar 15, 2008....

  dsl dls i've been working too hard and can't type my own name... have to learn to leave work at the office
   sorry for the confusion Sickman
  dls (Daddys little slut)

• Fallyn said on Mar 15, 2008....

  *laughing* i hope i'm not that easily definable. 

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