I've known some of the best. The ever present bullshitter.
You know the ones. In a group they are the teller of tall tales. They know something about everything and rush to explain it to you. The center of attention is their lifeblood. Its also known as the gift for gab.
Politicians are experts. They can talk five minutes after asked a question, say absolutely nothing of consequence, and give no answer.
Business is teeming with them. At my work I've watched them hover around supervisors all the way up the ladder. The good work they did was spotted at best, but many managed to suck up to the next rung.
I've also seen highly placed bullshitters in business and corporations. Unable to produce on their own, they become "motivators", demanding the work attitude when people need help with problems, demanding lower management to produce where the bullshitter can't.
In competitive sales they are trained in it. What they know and how they can help are secondary to twisting a mind into breaking down before them.
My wife worked with a gabber at the last place she worked. He screwed up everything he touched, but had the VP around his finger. The golf course is one of the best places to let it fly.
Although everyone is a target, women are a large recipient of bullshit. Single women especially receive a large platter, and many actually believe their lines.
I think most bullshitters are lazy and incapable of producing good work. The only way to survive and gain any respect at all, at least in their minds, is to lay it on thick and hope for the best.
I also think 97% of them are male.
The most amazing thing is that it works.
Survival of the bullshitist.
I'm sure you've known some.
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beyondtheveil posted on Feb 28, 2008
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GracefullyGrowing said on Feb 28, 2008....
Yep. I've known/know some. Mostly salesmen. ;~P~Grace~ -
quietone said on Feb 28, 2008....
Hey, I think you just explained one or two of my boss's! LOL I know quite a few! -
uniquely-ironic said on Feb 28, 2008....
Yes, I've seen it applied liberally in business. I'm always having to bite my tongue and hope that the smirk on my face can be passed off as interest or attention. -
beyondtheveil said on Feb 28, 2008....
grace- I used to frequent a heavily traveled restaurant with a counter- met scores of them there. Coffee shops must be a draw for them.
quiet- Looking back, these bosses were the ones less qualified than any. At least that's the way it worked for me.
unique- When I was working, me and the guy I worked with most used to look at each other and get the biggest laughs from the antics of those guys- they never knew what we were laughing about.
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mobil said on Feb 28, 2008....
Well, as a first class bullshitting ass sucker, I take offence to this type of bailiwick. I'll have you know bullshit don't come cheap Beyond. Takes allot of hard work and effort. Not to mention others finding you out quickly and writing nasty things about you. Oh Uni, no those smirks aren't passed off as anything but bullshit hating.And you Quiet, shame on you, you too Grace! How am I going to bullshit my way out of this one? I don't know, but I am working on it, it looks easy folks, but bullshitting is an art form. A degree is required for most, what do you think the BS stands for on most college diplomas? I got mine the hard way, kissing allot of ass, yuck can't get the taste out of my mouth either haha. -
beyondtheveil said on Feb 28, 2008....
mobil- (laughing) The BS on diplomas, I forgot about that. -
Trinov said on Feb 28, 2008....
hi, does anyone remember: BS, MS (more shit) Phd (Piled Higher and Deeper) or is that just New Yorkese? -
GrapeKoolaid said on Feb 28, 2008....
[raises hand] Right here! I've been known to have a silver tongue once or twice. Been labeled a BS "artist" more than that, and had the gift of gab save me even more than that. :) -
Twylarants said on Feb 28, 2008....
The only reason I can't stand a bullshitter is jealousy. I wish I could play that game...I really do! Then maybe I wouldn't be doing what I'm doing at my age. Maybe I would have a career instead of a mind-numbing job.
But I never could play the game. I'm not really sure what the game is, but some people play it so effortlessly.
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gingersoul said on Feb 28, 2008....
Ok, i guess i am guilty too. I can whip up the most complicated stories in a nano second from basically nothing and make you believe in them, blindly...but then i am also the one who looks at you and bursts in laughter and tell you...."I cant believe you really fell for it"...
Although i am absolutely a fiasco in the art of ass kissing....
And about the real bullshitters....i smell them from miles away...my patience with this specimen is very short and my sarcarstic comments usually deflate them....:-)
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Lioness said on Feb 28, 2008....
beyond, not a few have met this kind of people. Yes, they are everywhere, I have someone here at work, not best, but he still sucks. :( -
Mamie said on Feb 29, 2008....
aw, rats, I think I am a really good one of these. I am sorry in advance to anyone I have offended...[goes off on a half hour tangent about how it was for your own good]*smile.Mamie, the sales woman! -
beyondtheveil said on Feb 29, 2008....
trinov- I don't know if its New Yorkese, but I hadn't heard of those last two. Thanks for that.
grape- Now you brought up an advantage of the bullshitter- getting out of sticky situations. I need to work on that. I have difficulty talking my way out of things.
twyla- I've never been good at it either. Like you, I've wondered where I'd be if it was different.
ginsoul- Have I met my world's favorite bullshitter?!!!- I thought you could tell the tale. I've always figured you to be able to tell them a mile away, you just don't seem to me as the "fell for it" girl.
lioness- Hey, good to see you again. And yes, I think we all have had them at work, don't you? Every business seems to have their share.
mamie- No reason to sulk, I didn't say they were all bad. I've had a number of friends that could gab with the best- and I love to kid them about it.
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secretlife said on Feb 29, 2008....
i actually know a couple very good bullshitters and think there's a place for them.....my old boss was the greatest bullshitter. you're right, he didn't produce anything himself, but he was still a good boss because he could motivate his people AND smoooooooooooze with the upper levels and keep their bs away from us.my current boss is also a great bullshitter.when he turns it on, i'm in awe-i guess it depends on the bullshit.but i'm pretty good at spotting it, and not always offended by it. -
beyondtheveil said on Mar 02, 2008....
secret- Some of it is interesting, to say the least. I'm not offended by all of it either. And by the way, I've also had a boss that held an umbrella and sheltered us from the higher ups- not the usual thing, but its happened.