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Have you ever run across things in life that the powers of intellect through invention and science have advanced hardly at all in achieving an answer for?

Think about it. We have computers of small size that make a gazillion computations a second. We've been to the moon. They have machines we can control by thought. There are realities on the horizon that boggle the imagination.

But...a couple things...

Mankind has lived with agonizing pain forever. There are many people who live with chronic pain that hardly makes life worth living. Even though they have identified pain receptors and know much about pain, the only thing they have for us is chemicals which turn the person into a drug addict. There is acupuncture, but I doubt that's the answer either.

Why don't they have something that is at least effective for relieving pain for long periods without causing other major problems? Evidently its just way too much to ask. With all their computers and space ships, they can't relieve pain.

And another thing. Ten thousand years ago, people grabbed a leaf or sand to wipe their ass with their hand. Ten thousand years later, we grab a piece of cheap dippy paper to wipe our ass with our hands.

Why haven't they developed something I can sit on and after finishing, push a button and give me a sparkling clean ass?

Now really, you'd think they could do better, don't you?

Are there other things you think they could at least have advanced on and haven't?


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  • SeanRenaud said on Feb 21, 2008....
    You've never heard of a bidet have you
  • quietone said on Feb 21, 2008....
    well, on the matter of pain and disease...thats easy.  If "they" came up with something that solved that for long peirods of time....somebody would be loosing a lot of money.  And the toilet thing...I thought they had them in France...the kind that sprays water and give you a little fresher upper. LOL  I myself think the "Jetsons" had it made. 
  • SeanRenaud said on Feb 21, 2008....
    I'm amazed that everybody believes that everybody else on this planet is so greedy that they are holding back on thousands upon thousands of cures simply to continue making money.  I wouldn't deny that it probably happens sometimes but to believe that every disease has been cured (as quietone seems to be implying) is simply insane.
  • quietone said on Feb 21, 2008....
    Sean ~ I don't believe I used the word "everybody", or "every" but to each their own imagination.....
  • mobil said on Feb 21, 2008....
    Pain is associated with that main frame computer God gave us Beyond and science isn't anywhere near as advance as  GODSwindowsBC haha.
     
    As for the asswiping, I think you've got a point there, but the dopy French did come up with a water squirter you sit on like Quiet mentioned. I've never tried one and I doubt anything the French came up with would clean you very well (have you ever smelt some of those French?)
  • beyondtheveil said on Feb 21, 2008....
    sean- I've actually seen a bidet, but I thought that was designed for women for other purposes. If they work well for everyone I wonder why they aren't extremely popular?

    quiet- I wasn't talking about disease, just pain. But speaking of disease, I read where they have actually cured very little and treat symptoms of disease much more than cure.

    mobil- Well, they better get to work on that main frame, then. We need relief!
    The French water squirter you mentioned may be the bidet. I read where the Japanese came up with another water squirter but nothing seems to have come of it.
  • SeanRenaud said on Feb 21, 2008....
    I think because little peices of paper work just fine and nobody really feels a need to change. 
     
    You have to imply that everybody, or everybody above a certain inteligence is in on a conspiracy like that.  I mean assuming that a cure for say AIDS exists.  It seems a bit far fetched to me to believe that only one person in all the world knows it and he's the guy making all the money.  Eventually enough people would figure it out that it would get out.  Since it hasn't I find it difficult to believe that the majority of diseases have been cured.
  • Fallyn said on Feb 21, 2008....
    the way i saw it......wasn't "why hasn't every disease been cured" ...but more...."why can't they do something with those pain receptors"
  • SeanRenaud said on Feb 21, 2008....
    I think the bottom line is that it really isn't that simple.  And if it were it would likely be dangerous.  I mean turning off pain receptors would likely involve turning off nerves all together.  I dont' know about everybody else but when I had my wisdom teeth pulled, all four in one sitting I only took the vicodin once.  It scared me that I couldn't feel anything at all.  I'd rather suffer than be numb and maybe really hurt myself and not notice.
     
    Hell I've had bad enough experiences with adrenaline when wrestling or boxing and waking the next morning wondering how the hell that happened.  Or hell even sex and not understanding why my shirt had little blood stains on it in the morning.  Or hell when I'm cooking and I'm not paying enough attention to where my hands are and I get hot grease on me.  Pain kinda serves a purpose.
  • uniquely-ironic said on Feb 21, 2008....
    In the case of chronic pain there has been one invention that seems to be available for chronic pain.  It's an implantable device that delivers pain meds directly to the site of pain.  It can be refilled and the device recharged.  It only needs to deliver a fraction of the regular dosage since it doesn't target the whole body, and reduces the possibility of addiction since it's regulated by doctors.
     
    the thing I can't believe hasn't been invented is a cheap renewable cost efficient source of energy.  But then I realize that it would not be in the best interest of some companies to do so.
  • secretlife said on Feb 21, 2008....
    gee, and i've always wondered how this could be 2008, and there's still no cure for baldness.
     
    no opinion on TP.
  • tiposcettico said on Feb 21, 2008....
    how about a recreational drug that isnt addictive, doesnt make you do stupid things, doesnt make you sleep in(and be late for work), and is inexpensive?
  • seawitch said on Feb 21, 2008....
    What's stopping you from inventing all that?
  • hotaka said on Feb 22, 2008....
    Pain might still take some time to solve because of the complexity of the human nervous system and brain. But your toilet problems have been solved for around a decade.

    Check out the Toto Washlet.

  • polarheart said on Feb 22, 2008....
    I wish someone would invent something that senses when children have kicked off their blankets whilst sleeping and automatically covers them again :-)
  • lfbno7 said on Feb 22, 2008....
    I don't know of any miracle cure for pain, obviously, but I've read a lot of good things about MSM. It is reported to be as effective as the NSAIDs (non-steroidal anti inflammatory drugs like aspirin, tylenol, etc.) but safer. It has been described as being as safe as water, so if you are experiencing pain it sounds like a good idea to pick up a bottle of MSM capsules, or crystals to dissolve in water, or gel to apply to sore muscles or arthritic knees. It is not as quick as a drug, so it is for chronic pains, and the point is not to relieve your pain in 5 minutes with it, but to take it for a few weeks and see improvement. My wife has been taking it for a few weeks and has noticed that her arthritis pain is almost completely gone, and the only times she feels pain are when she has neglected to drink her MSM water for a while. She has capsules, and she opens the capsules and dissolves them in water. It is tasteless but it makes the water cloudy.
  • GrapeKoolaid said on Feb 22, 2008....
    But like you say, btv:  "There are realities on the horizon that boggle the imagination." 

    How much longer do you think before we have "Nanosurgeons" running around inside your body cleaning up your insides? 

    Or...

    How about bionic parts?  You could just pull up for an oil change and a tune-up every 2000 miles. 

    Or...

    Organ harvesting?  Have rows upon rows of headless clones of you in a vat?  Or your organs grown on the back of a pig?

    Remember, the history of mankind barely reach 10'000 years and that's with the aid of archaeology.  Recorded history's maybe 2'500-3'000 years.  In the cosmos, that's merely a blink of an eye. 

    As to pain, there are natural substances that are out there that the good lord has provided for you to manage it.  However, because we're weak creatures of the flesh, we succumb to its potential for abuse.  So the Fedgov takes it upon itself to take the right to self-medicate away from the people, and we're left with aspirin, Ibuprofen and booze.  The right to self-medicate still exists, however.  It just costs you money now, and is available only by prescription.  The poor are stuck with alcohol and street drugs, which the cops will thump you if they catch you with it, throw you in the PMITA prison. 

    And I'm fine with wipin' my own butt.  That I can live with.  When someone has to wipe my butt for me, that means there's something seriously wrong.  :)
  • SeanRenaud said on Feb 22, 2008....
    First everybody block this zfrega, he's just a spammer.  I'd hit him myself but I have to wait until I've been hit by the dolt.
     
    Second religious people are gonna hold back organ harvesting, possibly forever in this country, but the rest of that stuff sounds rather plausible rather soon.
  • GrapeKoolaid said on Feb 22, 2008....
    Sean:  Even if the clones are headless?  Or just organs grown on the back of pigs?  I mean, I understand if they have to kill a baby to grow one or something, but what if there was a way to clone without killing babies?  Think the religious would still disapprove?  (This conversation's turning weird)

    Even if they do, I'm sure they'd disagree only until their kidneys fail. 
  • silverwhisper said on Feb 24, 2008....
    pain alleviation, sadly, is probably not possible short of killing some of your sense of touch, i would think.

    that thing about toilet paper was funny. :D as quietone mentioned, there are bidets although honestly, i can't say i'm particularly keen to try one. somehow, the idea of squirting water there makes me kinda uncomfortable.

    ed
  • SeanRenaud said on Feb 24, 2008....
    Look at stem cell research if you need to question it Grape?  Religious conservatives aren't real big on logic.

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