Zadya,
I don't think you need to defend yourself on the "renting", or anything else as far as Hottips is concerned.
I tried to help her earlier this week, but she doesn't want to be helped. Rather, she wants to "pick", "bitch" and "complain" about all who disagree, or refuse, to be victims in her little game.
I agree with Grace, too. She will never leave. She will continue to attack and then block users who disagree with her. And then bitch and moan about how there's no "freedom" of speech her.
FYI - I've been blocked from her post as well.
rupe vomited:
i think i am a decent human being. my sense of decency is greatly offended. thrower of stones! - how dare you - how dare you speak in this disgusting manner! who do you actually think you are? just leave her alone!!
I have now been blocked.
I did cast my vote that she should GO - but I'm sure, like all the others, she will delete it.
you're right jessi, i didn't say that in the way i should have. what i should have said is that you're a LYING, CONNIVING, MANIPULATIVE PIECE OF CHICKEN SHIT. thank you for the opportunity to correct myself.
now, i say lying, because you have publically stated that if a majority opinion wanted you to leave, then you would. you have had 1 person who has said you should stay, 1 person who attacked beautiful wreck for answering your question, and 14 people so far who have told you to FUCK OFF. so i would say the votes are in my dear. you are, in the opinion of the majority of bloggers on this site, a vile, insensative, and totally UNNECESSARY piece of shit, and we all want you to leave. so live up to your word JUST ONCE in your pathetic life, and do so. that simple.
Rupert,
Please don't go because of the drama going on with Jessi. You have such a good heart and I know you hate to see anyone get hurt.
I have also been blocked from her post, and quite frankly am offended that she was so hurtful on MY blog. Her accusations and attacks are hurtful and whild I truely believe she herself is hurting, I tend to not believe anything she comments, types or says.
Read her posts. How many people has she attacked? How many negative and accusatory things does she say? She is obviously a VERY unhappy person, and I TRIED to reach out to her, to no avail.
I will no longer try- she doesn't want help. She wants to attack others to make herself feel better, for reasons I don't understand. My patience is gone, my tolerance level for her *shit* is now zero.
How dare her say how I should feel, or comment about my loss in a negative way.
If you go, I will miss you. You are a good soul.
MyHeart
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obviously, myheart did not take jessi's comments as 'snarky', or 'a good argument', she took them as a personal attack, which as anyone who read jessi's comments can tell, they were intended to be. now, here is my question. is jessi to be allowed to attack a woman who is just here to find a little solice from the death of her child with total impunity? is there no one to stand beside myheart and say NO, THIS IS NOT RIGHT, SHE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO DO THIS, NOT HERE! if the people of this site do not stand against this behavior, it will continue. if the people of this site support the person behind these unprovoked personal attacks, they will continue. if this is the type of behavior that is acceptable to the people of this site, then i say, rupert, you are right to leave. i am sorry to see you go, but in that case, this site is no longer worth your time.
i do not, and never have, had a personal vendetta against jessi. i do however, have a sense of indignation when anyone is allowed to treat others in the manor she does, and like her, have no qualms about speaking my own mind on that matter.
i did not start this. but i did speak my mind. i do not have a 'gang' to support me. i have made no contact with ANYONE in this matter. the opinions that i state are MINE ALONE. the fact that there are others who state similar opinions are just that, THEIR opinions.
so, we have come to the point of a choice. and the question is, should people of this site be allowed to say whatever they want about and to whoever they want, or is there to be a semblance of decorum here, a measure of basic human kindness? if it is to be a free for all, then i should never hear another comment from ANYONE, including jessi, about what i say. if it is not that, then she should be held to the same standard that i am. and if i am to be labeled a trouble maker for standing up against such blatent harassment, then so be it, label me that, because i know i have stood for my principles. and one of those principles is that NO ONE who comes to this site suffering such grief as myheart, should be subject to such attacks.
This has absolutely nothing to do with the vote that supposedly is going on here, but I have a question to throw out here....Ever since I posted to my blog titled; "Why I Sometimes Do Offensive Posturing" I have had four people "unsubscribe" to me...some of which actually shocked me because I thought they were more "unjudgemental" and "forgiving" than that, and I held them in high esteem and still do even though I am disappointed in their attitude towards my candor, and others are just flat out ignoring me and my comments like I am a "non-entity"
I haven't figured out if it is because I spoke up in defense on that blog on behalf of hottips or if in defending her, I outed myself by admitting I too have flaws and make conversational "misteps" around here, or what, but I will add my 2 cents here for what it is worth. Doubt if it is even worth 2 cents, but I will offer it anyway.
I have nothing but love for everybody here. I see all of our flaws, we all have them, but that is what makes us all unique and interesting. Some I like better than others, and some I have downright affection for.
It hurts when people you care about get ugly things said about them. ..Ever since JR, myself & Duke came, and now Cindylu, all of us real people, none of us "alts"......[ I do have one ALT--named ivorylace, but wasn't intended for an alt...I wanted to change my username and changed my mind ]....anyhow, back to what I was saying......
Ed was almost the first who befriended us here and he has been very supportive of us, I count him a dear friend and I rely on his wisdom and knowledge. .If this was real life, I 'd want to be his neighbor, I think he is a wonderful person who I admire and respect....I also adore Zayda with her "wit" and downright interesting blog posts. I think that these two people are a positive influence in this community.
I have come to feel the same way about travelr and Grace and I say that in the same sentence not two lump them together as one, but because they are equally important to me. A couple of weeks back, I got very upset at the prospect of losing either one of them, because of downright "horrible and dispictable things being spewed at them and about them"....I was terribly distraught over it, so much that my husband wanted us to pick up and leave.
But, I said "no hun, I don't want to leave. This is all about blogging and nothing else, and I will try not to take it so seriously."... That is all I can do. I can't control what other people say or think, or write, I can just try to focus on my place here.
Now, back to the subject of hottips: I absolutely hated to read the words she has written about the four people I mentioned, and even though I had defended her actions in the past, I got so angered a week ago at them, I blocked her and then she blocked me back. That is all she did, nothing else. I don't think she has targetted me or my family or done anything to hurt me.
I don't know why she says what she does. I can't figure it out. But no one is "a piece of shit"......shit is shit and it sure isn't people....I don't think ill of her at all, I just don't understand why she says what she does. ..but, I certainly am not casting a vote for her to leave, and I hope nobody else leaves either.....I enjoy the communciation between her and I , I just don't like how she says unkind things to my friends, and that pulls at me.......
But I'll not cast my vote for anyone to leave, I like everyone way too much for that.......
When I saw the attacks getting to the point I wanted to SCREAM! Was after a friday night when travelr wrote on his blog that he had to leave for awhile. Then someone wrote a blog asking him not to leave, and all of us was imploring him to stay I wanted him to stay and everyone wanted him to stay.
So after a few days when I thought things had quieted down, and travelr was back to posting, hottips wrote a blog stating that travelr had offended three women, and then things started heating up again.....
travelr: I have been on your side in this about not liking stuff being constantly stirred up and hurled at you. I don't like it one bit, that you can't seem to go anywhere around the community without something being said to try to trigger a response from you. I thought I had pretty much stated that.
In the meanwhile, I start reading what I believe to be untrue remarks about Ed, who I know much better than I do travelr, so again I got my back up, but tried to remain neutral, because I thought if all of us who weren't directly involved, if we just stayed out of it, it would be worked out between the parties conversing,
That didn't happen, it just kept getting bigger and bigger, and then a great big long blog was done about Grace, who I definitely count as a friend, who has done more to help me emotionally and psychologically here than probably anyone else besides Twyla, Now, that almost had me spitting bullets.....
Wow! That was hard to take! Grace is a wonderful, sweet, kind, caring person, and I know this isn't RL, but she has helped me in so many ways, that I don't know how I would have gotten thru my last hospital stay without her calm, comforting, reassuring words, and I wanted to strike out and chastise the person causing her distress.
But, all I could do is try to encourage her and send her my love and kind words, because my convictions are that I do no harm to anyone! "Dee, do no harm, speak no harm, feel no animosity, love everyone." Does anyone know how hard that is to do?
Trav: you addressed part of your comments to me....can you even hear what I am saying?......can you appreciate how I feel at all? I feel like you are personally judging me for not speaking out and condeming and sanctioning, and dehumanizing another person, and saying we should run her out on a rail.......
I am trying my best to understand all of this, looking at the big picture. I've read, and now I'm processing. I can only turn to my philosophical side at this point, to attempt to understand it as best I can. Here's where I am at this point . . . .
I would re-iterate, respect is *earned.* To get respect, one must fit themselves at least somewhat into the mold of what others perceive as respect. Respect is not handed out like a premium to draw in consumers. It is worked toward. The TYPE of respect one wishes to receive is the type they work for.
Hottips said in another blog . . . .
I try to be careful and subscribe to only the stout who can handle me in their yards playing...I'd stay in mine, but I already know whats there, so my curiosity tends to make me climb fences, swim in others pools, catch a nap in a hammock, maybe let their dogs out, hell might even tag all the no trespassing signs w/ hottips was here...hehe Its just me...maybe I was a mischievous lil gremlin in a past life. Or I have road this damned saddle for the past six weeks and I am ready to dismount that saddle and try bareback once again...lol
It is clear the type of respect Hottips wishes to garner. Hottips is getting what they seek. They wish to stir the pot, create havoc, and - tresspass - in the deepest sense of the word. No amount of "hehe" and "lol" can ease the reality of the intent of this person, by their own admission. They are having their type of "fun" it seems to me. And they are getting - as they have stated in *various* places - exactly what they want.
There is a difference between the type of respect Hottips garners and the type that Zayda, and Ed, and others, garner. You're not dumb so I won't point out the particulars - since I've come this far surely you can see them for yourselves. It's obvious.
Please, as *all* of you read this next statement, realize I'm speaking philosophically - ***NOT*** in a personal manner toward *ANYONE* ....
If this type of "fun" has it's purpose in the cosmos, then the only conclusion I can make is . . . then so must war, and disease, and pestilence, and everything else that is detestable to humans.
No, I'm not calling anyone a disease, or any other thing. I'm looking at the picture from a "what's the purpose of all of this" and a "what are people searching for with all of this that they think they NEED" point of view. Please take it as it is meant.
~Grace~
travelr-----I guess I don't get you **I just don't get you...sorry trav, this is anonymous blogging here..it is also uncensored blogging , I didn't write the rules, SoulCast did. This isn't TV Survivor where you can vote someone off the island.
They have provided us with tools to deal with the situation, it is: delete & block.