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I Want To Fit In, Don’t You?

Sensible talk for men dealing with peer pressure. I use to think that peer pressure ended at high school.

Now, we knew for certain if we went on to college that it at least went into college with us. I will say that, for most of us, peer pressure lasts way after college.

 Far into our adulthood, peer pressure goes. I think all of us, especially men want the feeling of security that comes from “fitting in." 

 The problem is I know so many men who want to fit in so badly that they will abandon all sense of value, and conviction to do so.

 It isn’t only “religious” people who have convictions. I don’t know anyone who doesn’t have some convictions about the way they want to live and the character they want to have.

 Surprising to me and my guess is that maybe it will be just as surprising to you to know that men can be more susceptible to peer pressure than women can.

 I have often wondered if it is the way we men tease each other sometimes.

What do you think? How far would you go to “fit in?“ How far have you gone to “fit in?“ Join the discussion and maybe we all will learn something here, hopefully, something valuable about ourselves.                                                

 



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  • stuckon said on Feb 06, 2008....

    i had trouble with this especially in college. I must've drank gals. of beer till, i bet if u cut me, i would bleed beer. In my mid-20's I slowd down a bit. .I never did get into drugs. .too scared to do that. But I no mostly it was peer pressure.

  • lfbno7 said on Feb 06, 2008....
    I think there are different types of social pressure. For example, when I'm in a face to face conversation, I don't like telling someone I disagree with him. A new employee on my job is a Boston Red Sox fan, and that is like waving a red flag in front of a bull because I feel rivalry with the Red Sox, but I wouldn't let any of that out in front of him. I think many other guys would, but not me. I just want things to go smoothly. He also called mixed martial arts too brutal and said he didn't like it, and there he was, putting down something I enjoy, and I didn't want to contradict him on that either. Something as simple as sudoku puzzles vs. crossword puzzles, I enjoy sudoku, he enjoys crossword, and again, I didn't want to clash or disagree. I don't know if you'd call that peer pressure or something else, but it is at least similar to peer pressure.

    On the other hand, aside from the above type of situation, I never experienced peer pressure. When all the other kids in 7th grade were engaging in a popularity war, I honestly couldn't care less. I never valued the opinions of the majority. I always ignored it. My version of peer pressure just consists of not wanting to clash with the individual I happen to be talking to.

    I think it is a form of social submissiveness, submitting one's own personality and deferring to someone else's. That's me all over, in one to one, face to face relations. If I'm in the middle of a conversation and a third person rudely barges in and starts talking, I will always just be quiet and submit to the other person. I just don't want to clash. But in a different sense, I don't submit to majority opinion, never did, never cared about or respected it. It's just a one on one thing for me.
  • humorkat said on Feb 06, 2008....
    I'm usually the peer doing the presuring. I got a bit of a funny bone, and I get silly sometimes, and when I get silly, then I don't always use good jugement, and at those times I usually can find a follower.
  • runningbear said on Feb 06, 2008....
    What were you like, kind like the Dukes of Hazard boys?
  • papajack said on Feb 06, 2008....

    I didn't have trouble in college, because I had settled down by then. I was not too well behaved as a youngster though.

    stuckon....I don't know how yo ever made it thru college at that rate. Glad you did.

    lfnbo7....A lot of the time, I think it is one on one that seems to thwart the most.

    humor.....You are the one that draws someone else in huh? So, you still are?

    bear.....Hello, I haven't heard from you in several days.

    JR

  • quietone said on Feb 06, 2008....
    you know, I really never gave this a thought (being a woman) about adult men dealing with peer pressure.  I find it interesting on some of the comments.  hope you didn't mind me eves dropping on your male conversations!  I was curious.
  • davidstar said on Feb 06, 2008....

    I did wonder if a gal was going to pop her head in here or not.

    I got into lots of trouble as a youngster, but when I got with kim that all stopped. We started going to together as jr's in high school. After that we always just hung with each other. I stayed out of trouble. I guess I was "hen" pecked early, HA!

  • papajack said on Feb 06, 2008....
    Hiya dave. Back to blogging are ya? Yes, I'd say you done good when you found kim.
  • papajack said on Feb 06, 2008....
    Sorry about that, quiet. You were so quiet i didn't see you sitting there. Haha. Thanks for popping in.
  • davidstar said on Feb 06, 2008....
    I guess I'm addicted just like everyone else around here. but I don't thing I'm going to post for awhile, just hang out and comment some. How is dee. kim tried calling, but couldn't get anyone.
  • papajack said on Feb 06, 2008....
    She is better, but she is doing some couging. Came home with a cold. The telephone is out again. Surprised you have service. Ours went out two days ago with that storm. did you lose power last night? That was bad storm. Took me 45 minutes to shovel out the drive to the car this morning.
  • beyondtheveil said on Feb 06, 2008....
    papajack- At a young age, I wanted to be included. I consider this different than fitting in. In high school I wanted to be included also, and was in many types of groups, but was not concerned with fitting in. I didn't fit in with many people I was with but that didn't stop them from letting me be included.

    I never sacrificed anything to fit in. If they wouldn't include me the way I was, so be it.

    It was the sacrifice of who I was that I couldn't handle.
  • brit said on Feb 06, 2008....
    come to think of it, a lot of my problems, if not all of them, stem from the issue of trying to fit in with my peers. you see, i never really have fit in. i've gone through periods where i was bullied constantly and then a couple where i was totally ignored. whenever i tried to fit in, i had to sacrifice who i was, my morals, my values and all that jazz. it felt so fake when i was accepted that way. and i've moved so many times in my life. the moves always gave me a chance to be me again. but then i'd be a loner. i've discovered its far better to be a loner with yourself, your beliefs in check than it is to be part of the crowd pressuring others to do crap they shouldn't be doing to be accepted. overall, i don't want to fit in anymore. it isn't worth the sacrifices.
  • Carefully said on Feb 06, 2008....
    Heck, I'm still trying to fit in.
  • cindylu said on Feb 06, 2008....

    You probably remember, I never cared much about fitting in. Still don't. I do what I want to do of course, my wants are fairly well aligned with what I think is the right thing to do and that is how I conduct myself.

  • Chinalang said on Feb 06, 2008....
    Is this for men only? Or can we ladies join in the discussion?
  • rupert7 said on Feb 06, 2008....
    Personally I have always stood on the side lines,been the lone wolf type. I would rather have on or two close friends...I don't want or need a sack full of loose ones! Same as here! If you want to subscribe to me....thank you,thats terrific on the other hand,if you don't...well thats OK with me too! Do I want to be popular?....Nah! - I don't see the percentage in it! If someone is No.1...well good on 'em but if someone is chasing that position for the sake of being No.1......I think that is pretty sad!
  • crybabylu said on Feb 06, 2008....

    I popped in for a minute here, and say your post, beyond....can't help but ask what you meant when you said.....


    "It was the sacrifice of who I was that I couldn't handle."

    Both PapaJack and I think that what you are saying in essence is:  To have to sacrifice oneself just to "fit in" would be more uncomfortable than having to deal with not 'fitting" in would be.

    The statement probly seemed self-explainable to you, but everyone explains things a little differently, and we just wanted to know if that is what you were saying....thx...JR & dee.

  • runningbear said on Feb 07, 2008....
    I learned a tough lesson when I was 22. I went into a casino with some friends of mine, and there was girl from the local village who had too much to drink, and the  guys I was with wanted to take her out later.  I did not know this but I was wondering why they kept buying her drinks when she was visibly intoxicated already. I didn't want them to think I was some kind of chump, but I could not allow them to give her anymore to drink, so I convinced her to come with only me.  When we got outside, I asked her where she lived, and I took her home. My lesson was to know when to speak up, because I should have said something earlier than I did. I promised myself that if anything like that ever happened again, I would speak up sooner. She ended up being okay, but I think it could have ended up badly.
  • cindylu said on Feb 07, 2008....
    wow, bear, that was really tough, a lot of  guys would not have lifted a finger.
  • papajack said on Feb 08, 2008....
    That was a good thing, I wouldn't feel bad at all. You done good!
  • papajack said on Feb 25, 2008....

    quietone....didn't mind at all. thanks for the comment.

    Dave......glad everything is going all right.

    beyond......glad to hear it wasnt importnat\to you.

    brit......glad to hear that.

    rupe......sometimes it pays to be the lone wolf.

    bear.......you done good.

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