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I have a question. I just don't understand how someone can justify to themselves doing something like the following. This is not done in the spirit of malice, it is just a question on social behavior. I don't feel a bit bad making this comparison, because many very similar comparisons were made about me by her, using my screen name. So here's what hottips said about me just a couple days after she started posting at the beginning of the month, when I was pointing out to her that writing this very demeaning post about carterbabe might make her look bad:
 
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hottips4u said on Jan 10, 2008....

You are becoming aggrivating over absolutely nothing, paranoid perhaps, two faced absolutely.

You are only one individual who has messaged me regarding same, but the only one being the nib shit where your motives are unclear except for an inmature attempt to play good guy - bad guy, and I am begining to view you in the following manner ;  based upon my past and current experiences with you and, of late, ofcourse. Vis:

Based upon what you have stated to me, you are closing in on a age that leaves you a little long in the tooth to be seeking a Phd., and will be satisfied if the next two years go well. From that I would " consider, guesstimate, assume & accept that you a male 30 plus, being conservate, respectfully.

You also show an inclination to enjoy non commital relationships and treat females like you are getting your education....bit here, bit there, nothing long term.  You tend to limit obligations, pretty much into yourself. Except... when the comforts of a woman are lacking, and then its just about an open table, since its just for a few meals in any event.

You are probably a codependant and require assurance that your dick is laying along the right leg.  More likely than not, you tend to be lazy as far as physical labor is concerned based upon the profession you are pursuing currently, as expressed by you herein above. Codependant(s) seek each other out to thier own detriment, such (IMO) was the case w/ Des as afore mentioned, and why you publicly provided the lot of us with many a hilarious moments of how ludricrous humans can sometimes be, even at allegedly great distances geographically.

Fantasy, your - more often than not, bed partner. Due to your ability to drive people away w/ your redundant and repetious inquiries about totally insignificant matters that have no bearing on you whatsoever. Hence a nib-shit / busybody / rumor munger, with more faces than a verteran investigator.  Your a nice guy, but you can not be trusted.  Thus, even at your age, you have no mate.

Thus, with the uncanny ability to kowtow practically every faccet of your daily activities, you fool most who take any interest in you whatsoever ; you require verification constantly. Yet, I surmise that you will dwell alone, never committing as promises are unlimitted and normally baseless except for moments of self- gratafication, hence your addiction to the net.

Other than that, I haven't give you much thought and have spent more time convincing myself you may be a male, but your female hormones are working overtime because your a nag. 

It must be remembered that this type of misdirection only comes after the deleted evidence that would have shown I had not attacked the alleged newbie, but warned them against many woes they may well encounter if they revealed to much about themselves or thier emotions, no foul, until you and your herein above discusssed associate, Destiny made, or, rather atleast are trying to make, a mountain out of silly putty which is baseless, and solely manipulated fabrication on your parts that reflect not an iota of substance in reality.

Finally, your style of writing is so Ed like, and the underhanded insults maligned my intellect. In the event you shall have any further questions, please, do not hesitate to contact me.  Then too, wishing to thank you in advance for the time and efforts you have taken to waste my life with this immature bullshit.  Best wishes.

Respectfully,

Jessica.

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So, I conclude from this that hottips thinks it completely appropriate to also enter a demeaning character breakdown of me because I was a little unkind to her on her blog. Well, ok, if them's the rules, them's the rules.
 
However, today, during a conversation today between hottips and grace here, grace made a similar character analysis of hottips:
 
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Humm.  Guess it's my turn to be attacked.  It's ok.  I've had my shots.  LOL 
 
{{rolls up her sleeves for the diagnostic exercise}}
 
You searched to find something you could use to attack, and blame me for it. (That would be MY persistance, in case you missed the "blame" part, and the "It's your own fault" attitude with the "perhaps you should have left it at that" part.)  That's interesting.  Classic narcissism rears it's green (green, for jealousy) head. 
 
One who must continually antagonize - looking at life from such cynical viewpoints, and publicly call it honesty, is obviously suffering from low self esteem.  You tell yourself these actions are for noble purpose.  But what it really shows, clinically speaking, is extreme narcissism - which everyone knows is denial-eze for "I'm not worth much, so I must convince others that I am so I can be acceptable, thus survive."  Low self-esteem, so low that it morphs into narcissism, is shown clearly in all your posts.   Your self preservation is showing, Jessi.
 
Another text book/classic sign of your narcissism is that you turn on each person that reaches out to you.  You have much in common with King Louis XIV.  Narcissists can't stand success, because down in the deepest parts of themselves they don't feel they deserve it.  You fear intimacy, and can only take it in short bursts.  You'll seek friendship and intimacy to get your human-need fix, and then you will bite the hand that feeds you because it scares the absolute beejeebers out of you.  You can't let anyone get too close....they would be able to see your flaws then.  (Perfectionism, clearly.)  You have to take the control, because then you have some perception of worth, and you make them believe they need you to survive.  The problem is though, that narcisissts can't keep their playhouse running smoothly because it requires them to be vulnerable, and that never fits in their mold.  Your inability to "play well with others" and perfectionism is showing, Jessi.
 
Then comes personal attack - again, text book narcissism. A tell-tale sign of this is that you use others self perceived short comings to do this. You don't even have the presence of mind to see how your attacks are illogical and often make you look (even to the untrained eye) like the one who doesn't have it all together.  You attack at the point you perceive to be the lowest point of your self-perceived enemy - the point at which you perceive the person "lives."  The point at which you think will "kill" any chance of them rising up against you ever again. "Hit um where it hurts" is your motto.  You can't take the chance that anyone could be smarter, or do better at something, or show you for who you really are, so you shoot them down as quickly as possible, and you shoot to kill. (But you don't even see that it's really OVERkill)  Your low self-worth is showing, Jessi.
 
(Because of the above, I find it very interesting that you present yourself as female, considering this tactic.  It is classically male, but . . . these days it's hard to tell for sure, especially with only the written word. You *might* be female after all, but of the young, inexperienced, Amazonian soul. Or, maybe you learned this tactic from your father, tried it a few times, and saw that it worked on the weak.)  Your maleness is showing, Jessi.  (You even have an androgenous name!  I have a sneaking suspicion that you are the artistic type. . . perhaps a writer, or a writer wanna be, and highly intelligent.)
 
We can't forget your underestimation of others - once again classically narcissistic.  To say that teenagers are "not likely to understand" is the ultimate in narcissistic behavior.  You confuse experience with ability, and teenagers with children - probably because you look down on teenagers - and probably because of your own actions as a teenager that lead to this extremely low self esteem of yours. (Educated guess . . . dysfunctional family upbringing with an overly  controling female role model.)  Grave error, Jessi, to underestimate folks.  Very unwise, and one that exposes your motivations as well as your inner thoughts about yourself.  Your defensiveness is showing, Jessi.
 
Finally, your "super hero" attitude.  Defender of all oppressed.  Defender of women.  Defender of all who can not fend for themselves - or so you think.  Do I have to say "textbook/classic" again?  I didn't think so. You have some unmet need to be someone's hero.  Your super-hero syndrome is showing, Jessi.
 
You are eratic, conflicted, and disorganized. You lack harmony, cohesion, and creedence.  You already know this, and you are fighting everyone else - but don't know that who you really want to fight is yourself.  Your attempts to hide this fact from yourself by constantly attacking others, or the system, are transparent.  Your fears are showing, Jessi.
 
You are obviously crying out for help, or you would not keep coming back here.  You would not keep attacking.  You would not keep digging for bones.  You would not keep fighting for something that is obviously futile.  If I can help you further, I'm happy to do so.  
 
I'll leave you with a bit of appropriate and applicable humor. . .
 
How many psychologists does it take to change a lightbulb?
 
Just one, but the lightbulb has to WANT to be changed!!!!!
 
~Grace~
 
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This comment was subsequently deleted from hottips posts, grace was blocked, and this was hottips' response:
 
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Nuked for sabotage Grace

Bye bye....poser.

Thats my perspective.....whats yours ?

Hottips4u

Jessi.
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Now, I really don't see any difference between these two comments. Perhaps I'm missing something. But what I really don't understand is, how can someone who so blatently does a thing, condemn another for doing the same to them? Just to say it, anything hottips says in her blogs doesn't bother in the least, I just have a hard time understanding this type of behavior, and it is a common pattern in her actions here.
 
 So, can anyone explain this type of behavior to me? What does she tell herself that allows her to do this? She is very adiment about the evils of others being two faced and posers, and i agree with her in that. But doesn't it seem like that's what she's doing? And if that's true, what would she have to do to be blinded to her own actions?
 
Just a question.


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  • Sunshine_Mariah said on Jan 30, 2008....
    I, like yourself... still don't understand this girl. But I've given up trying to figure out her ways. I wouldn't bother wasting your time and effort trav... it just doesn't seem worth it.
     
    I do however love the "poser" comments that keep coming back over and over. Funny how she refers to others as such, but yet when a certain other screenname suddenly appeared... it was noticed that this new character had similar qualities to our dear hottips. Poser? I think so! :-)
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    i found it interesting myself that randomsoul created her blog on saturday, made one post that caused an uproar, deleted anything by anyone else that showed how jessi conducts herself, and then just disappeared into the mist, never to be heard from again.
     
    i mean, jessi thinks it's perfectly appropriate to say this about men unprovoked, me included:
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    hottips4u said 4 days ago.... Thought at first you may have been D6fer due to the intelligent comments of a political kind.  However, I do detect a lot of "lil bitch" in you DavidStar, you could be that lowlife Travelr too.  No matter, gay men oh so despise a strong real woman. hehe
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    but says this about anyone who calls jessi out on that:
     
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    randomsoul said 3 days ago....

    i've done some comment editing. comments attacked jessi. they also did not relate to the topic at hand, which is the sexism present on soulcast.

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    So i take it that in random's opinion, jessi can call anyone anything she wants and that's ok, but if other people stand up for themselves or call her out on what she's said, then that's attacking her. kinda has a familiar ring to it, doesn't it?

    of course, now that i've made mention of it, i expect randomsoul to drop in on us again. and i'm really not concerned about anything jessi does, i just thought maybe someone could give me a little insight into that type of character is all.
  • Zayda said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Understanding her is relatively simple--If you don't agree with her, you get blocked and deleted, and then you become a poser.
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    well, that's the surface hottips zayda, but most people learn as they mature that it's not a proper way to treat others. it seems that to her, it's totally in the realm of decorum tho. what i want to know is, how does one rationalize that to themselves?
  • Zayda said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Well, you said it yourself.."most people learn a they mature that it's not a proper way to treat others". She has yet to reach that level of maturity. And as such, she doesn't need to justify or rationalize it to herself. It's appropriate behavior for the maturity of her psyche and ego.


    There isn't much beyond the surface to scratch. She acts at the base or primal level, much as a young child would.


    Her determination that any man who stands up to her is gay is indicative of her immaturity both psychologically and socially.
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Narcisissism (dang, you'd think as many times as I've written that word today I'd know how to spell it correctly by now!) dictates that one is always right - total perfection is the delusion.  It is a tyranical illness, and is justified by the thoughts in their own minds.  Any threat to their mirror on the wall that tells them what they want to hear must be vanquished immediately.  So, being the tyrant, they must eliminate any threat from their kingdom entirely.  They must keep Sentry's (control factors) in place that protect the mirror, even if it means breaking the laws of the kingdom they put in place themselves. 
     
    They don't care if they are perceived as delusional - because they are convinced in their own mind they are perfect, and others are not intelligent enough to even begin to understand why they do what they do - they are commoners and peasants, after all.  All they have to do to justify their actions is go back to the mirror - it will tell them they are the fairest in the land.  And, the mirror is always right.
     
    Narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) involves a pervasive pattern of grandiosity, a need for admiration, and a lack of true empathy.  (They will use empathy to GET admiration, but do not have the true sense of it within them - they see it as a tool.)  There have been many studies done that show there is a distinct link between high intelligence and NPD.  Socially speaking, it is environment that essentially creates the disorder, and then it is the environment that rejects the person with the disorder.  A catch 22, so to speak.  It's cruel.
     
    Many times those with NPD also have symptoms of Histrionic personality disorder (excessive emotionality and attention seeking) and Antisocial personality disorder (a pervasive pattern of disregard for, and violation of, the rights of others).  Personality disorders are conditions in which people have traits that cause them to feel and behave in socially distressing ways, limiting their ability to function in relationships and in other areas of their lives. Thus, sociologically, those with personality disorders have a much harder time in life than even a paranoid schizophrenic would endure in our culture.
     
    It's very sad to watch.  {sigh}
     
    ~Grace~
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    sure zayda, no problem with that. but i would add a couple of things that i'm sure you already know. it's not just men that she blatently attacks, it's women too. here's an 'anonymous' comment on sunshine's blog by her:
     
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     anonymous said about 1 hour ago....
    ATTENTION SEEKING WHORE!
     
    POSER... I smell a poser!!
     
    Telling lies and more lies. How can you live with yourself Sunshine?
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    now, it's obvious who this is, because hottips is the only person on this whole site who uses the expressions attention seeking whore and poser. and she's the only one who attacks people on their blogs without provocation. so men aren't her only target, anyone who she decides she wants to use to create traffic to her own blog seems to be fair game. the other thing is, if she is like this in person, how can she be walking around on the streets? i mean, if she reacts to people like this on a blog, what do you think she'd do if someone snatched a cab from her, or god forbid put mustard on a sandwich when she didn't want it? so is this just a place where she comes to vent all this frustration and hostility and enmity she carries for her fellow man, and in person she acts like an adult? but actually, my theory is that it's just another moon platoon alt that he uses to generate character profiles and story lines, taking them from our reactions to the different screen name personalities he puts on. but that's just my perspective, what's yours? :-)
     
    grace - i think her comments on this post show exactly what you were talking about:
     
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    I started here in SC writing about Hotdogs Into Little Pieces { HERE }  after months of just reading and occasionally commenting.  I even shared a special part of myself in Little Red Wagon { HERE }. I trusted.

    Shortly thereafter, I was made fun of for writing like a sixth grader, I was ignorant white trash, and living in sin.

    That is the day I choose not to scurry like the chipmunk, and I became a bear.

    Why damn me when you created me ?

    Jessi.
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    so in her mind, this environment created her, or made her the way she is now. it's all our fault, and no blame should be attached to her. is that what you're saying?


  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Trav -  Among other things, that is indeed what I'm saying.  It's very sad, isn't it? 
     
    I think we've all had our chance to be upset about all of this.  I would like for us to begin to try to understand all this, and I think your question that prompted this post is a good way to start doing that.   No one does this sort of thing for "fun" - unless they have sanity issues.  (That would be majorly anti-social.)   And yes, I am saying this person has . . . mental issues.
     
    I don't want anyone to involve themselves with her/him to the point of getting hurt.  DO NOT mistake my words and think this is what I'm saying.  What I'm saying is, just try to understand that this person, whoever s/he is, is not a mentally healthy person.  Do not take what s/he does personally.  Do not consider that you can care about them enough to make a difference.  And do not allow yourselves to be taken in by the bait presented.  You'll only be feeding the illness they suffer from if you do.
     
    I don't know, Trav, that this person IS out on the streets.  There are computers in institutions, and group homes, with internet access and plenty of free time to utilize such things.  There is rarely any accountablity as to what patients are actually DOING on the internet in such places as well.   So, don't assume they're running free.  
     
    ~Grace~
     
     
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    well, you're a mental health professional grace, and you've been working in the industry for many years, so you would have an informed opinion from a psychological standpoint. but if the person who is writing under the hottips screen name is in an institution, then the whole line about having a house and child and loving husband of 13 years that they spend their daily lives with in that home is an entire fabrication. that would make that person the biggest poser on this site.
  • Expendable said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Travelr712, ignore her. She's just a troll puppet. The puppetmaster feeds on attention - good and bad. Ignore camdaman20 and copsunited/copsextraordinare - they're all the clique of one. Real people need not apply.
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 30, 2008....
    I suspect this person has an artistic/creative side that is begging to get out.  That would explain the "socially acceptable" persona.  They apparently don't get to be socially acceptable very often, so of course they would choose such a viewpoint to portray here, in cyberland, where anyone can say anything about who they are.
     
    A long time ago I had a client who purchased a packet of No. 2 pencils.  She colored them all different colors, and put faces on the erasers.  She named them, and would carry them around with a rubber band holding them together.  She had a life story and personality attached to each one - complete with amusing stories of the things they would do when they were toddlers.  They were her children.  She would even discipline them, and set plates (from a toy tea set) at the table for them, complete with food in the plates and admonishment for not clearing their plates.  There was one kindergarten size pencil in the bundle as well.  That was her husband.  I'll never forget the night she had an argument with him, and literally threw him out the front door, then ran after "him" and stomped "him" into the ground.  Then she dug him out, broke him in half, and - with her hands - dug a "grave" (her word) and burried him.  She promptly went inside, put on a black dress and a black scarf over her head, and went into mourning - literally. 
     
    ~Grace~
  • Expendable said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Kinda clever. no litter boxes to clean.
    -ex
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    grace - wow, now that's obsession! i know the little guy can take inanimate objects and personify them like that, most children do. it's how they develop their imaginations, for one thing. but as far as i know, if those traits continue into adulthood, people are generally medicated and institutionalized as being 'not normal', and not able to take care of themselves. the pencil woman sounds like just such a person.
     
    expendable - LOL, good point! is that why pet rocks were so popular in the 70's? you could have something to project love and warmth on, but not have to feed or clean up after it. right?
  • Lucytorial said on Jan 30, 2008....
    hmm Grace you have a wonderful mind my dear, and yes the narcisism (I can't spell either) shows so strong, I thought the colourful language she used to describe me was rather interesting, immature and Zayda has hit the nail on the head, as a child would act.

    Funny thing is I don't really care......
  • Expendable said on Jan 30, 2008....
    travelr712 -Yup. Pet Rocks don't make a lot of demands on you but they're not much fun. I like books more. And writing. She wouldn't like my pencils, they all get worn down.
     
    Lucy - when you stop caring, you'll start seeing the puppet's strings.
     
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 30, 2008....

    Thank you, Lucy. =)

     

  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    lucy - i don't think very many people on this site do really care about what she says, but that's not really what this post is about. it's more about how people can justify acting like that. but yeah, she does have some rather colorful metaphores for expressing herself, doesn't she?
     
    expendable - yeah, a pet rock would win a stare down, wouldn't it :-)
  • Expendable said on Jan 30, 2008....
    travelr712 - The clique of one does it for the attention, any attention. There is no justification, just targets.
    Grace - you've sound like you've some fun encounters. ^_^
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    well, i disagree that there is no justification expendable. i mean, you can't go to someone's blog who's posting about struggling with just finding out that they have cancer after they lost their mother to the same desease a few months ago, and call them horrible names, and then sleep with yourself without some kind of justification. well, unless you're a complete psychopath, i guess.
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 30, 2008....

    Expendable - LOL, I sure have!  Oh have I got STORIES! 

    ~Grace~

  • Expendable said on Jan 30, 2008....
    If it's not about them getting attention it's not important. Very sociopathic.
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    i guess i'm just trying to get inside a mind like that a little. well, not really, it's pretty dark and scarry in there. but i am a study of human behavior, and i am always curious about why people do what they do.
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    well, it seems that after 4 days of silence, it only took 2 hours for jessi to go back to her randomsoul account and post another blog. i bet she forgot all about that one. oh, and to answer your question 'randomsoul', since you've blocked me and i can't do it on your post:
     
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    and why do you say you expect me to drop in again? you don't even know me. you never read my initial posts. am i allowed to drop in at all?
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    i said it, and here you are. kinda self evident why i would say it, isn't it?
  • Expendable said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Everyone's a little curious. But when you climb into someone's head, make sure you can find your way out again.
     
    And she's a puppet. The head you need to look at is the one pulling her strings.
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    who do you think that would be expendable?
  • Expendable said on Jan 30, 2008....
    The clique of one have several names. The ones I'm certain about are HotTips4u, CamDaMan20, copsunited/CopsExtraordinare. Cops seems to be the only 'real' one. You want to stay away from all of them though. Especially him. Don't challange him. Be smart and stay safe, ignore all of them.
  • lalalalalala said on Jan 30, 2008....

    well, it seems that after 4 days of silence, it only took 2 hours for jessi to go back to her randomsoul account and post another blog. i bet she forgot all about that one. oh, and to answer your question 'randomsoul', since you've blocked me and i can't do it on your post: **************************************************************** and why do you say you expect me to drop in again? you don't even know me. you never read my initial posts. am i allowed to drop in at all? ****************************************************************** i said it, and here you are. kinda self evident why i would say it, isn't it? -------------------------------------------- trav, before i make my leave from soulcast official, i've just gotta ask you this. why do you think randomsoul and hottips4u are one in the same? as an outsider looking in to your communications between hottips and yourself, it really seems like you are just as guilty of making accusations that may or may not be accurate. i used to like you, but i think that all this preoccupation with hottips has made you very unlikeable. i'm sorry.
  • solamente_me said on Jan 30, 2008....
    Perhaps lalalalalalala, because hottips isn't the nice, sweet person some suddenly seem to think she is.  There is plenty of evidence to show her true character.

    Start here.

    And perhaps, here and here.

    Copsunited who is also now CopsExtrordinaire after his username Copsunited was banned for his racism, hatred, hate speech, inciting of flame wars.  is either her husband under another username or one of the people she and her husband regularly bed.

    Take a good long hard look at his posts as well.  They seem to think with the same kind of brain.  Here's a good example.  As is this one, featuring hottips comments.
    Or how about this one, featuring comments by CamDaMan, whom hottips sometimes posts as or comments as?

    Or how about this one by Cam?

    You need to understand the history of the idiocy that Hottips, Cam, and Cops have wrought in the last year.  But that's just it, people don't look closely enough at the past blogs and comments of these people, because they don't know 1) where to find them, or 2) that they even need to to understand their true nature.

    Quite simply, all three of them are seriously fucked in the head.




  • Lucytorial said on Jan 30, 2008....
    sol.... you make me laugh

    Expendable... I see the strings honey... its amusing beyond belief!
  • lalalalalala said on Jan 30, 2008....
    i have been privy to the communications between hottips and trav, so i don't know why you, solamente, find it necessary to show me all this evidence.

    my comment was directed to trav. only he can speak for himself.
  • travelr712 said on Jan 30, 2008....
    well, expendable, thanks for the advice. but quite honestly, this is the internet. people can be whoever they want to be at the moment here. so none of them intimidate me in the least. i have made some good friends here. they know me, they know my faults, and they accept me anyway. that's enough for me. so i really don't get upset about people who spin people's words to try and get a reaction. if people like me here, great. if they don't, oh well.
     
    lala - guess you're one of them that don't. oh well.
     
    solemente - i sure wish i knew who you were! i'll add to your list, but only things that hottips posted about me personally, and unprovoked. here's the first one. notice s/he slipped up and used the anon check box? then there's this, where she took both my and silver's comments and twisted them to make them seem like they were saying something completely different than they were. followed by this, and then this. there were a few others, but they've been deleted. not a problem, says i, because i have copies of them should anyone be interested. so, is the rule here that hottips can go around saying anything she wants to anyone she wants for no other reason than to gain attention, and the rest of us must sit back and stay quiet? well, as far as i'm concerned, i say, if you can dish it out, you better be ready to take it. that's just common sense.
     
    but again, this post is not about what she's doing, it's about how she can do these things and then cry foul when someone does them to her, about how she can live with herself after treating people the way she does. it's a case of sociological study for me, and s/he's the perfect antagonist.
     
  • silverwhisper said on Jan 31, 2008....
    trav: i think zayda answered the question last week: b/c "hottips" is a raging attention whore. that's it. what i find really funny though is in the segment you quoted in the blog entry, in which she's obviously trying to make herself seem more intelligent than she actually is. the structure screams of someone using words or expressions that she barely knows rather than really knowing. in that way, she's worse than copsuntied: he at least was dumb as dirt but didn't bother trying to prove it: he merely asserted it constantly. by contrast, the best that can be said of "hottips"'s alleged intellect is that she possess something akin to a low, animal cunning.

    grace: a nice application of the fact that all communication is a two-way street. i happen to disagree w/ you, though. i'm not sure i agree she's a self-hating narcissist but hey, you work in the field, not me.

    sunshine mariah: there's a reason a lot of people block anonymous commenting, and sadly, the comment trav linked in a comment is one of 'em.

    ed
  • solamente_me said on Jan 31, 2008....
    First lalalalala, it's called a conversation, anyone can participate.  This space isn't just reserved for trav and comments to him. This isn't a two person conversation between you and trav.  So grow up.

    Second, the point was that hottips has been at this for well on a year now and it's not just her interactions with trav. It's the way she treats anyone who disagrees with her or stands up to her.

    For heavens sakes, she accused nearly half of Soulcast of being pedophiles and regularly refers to them that way because they believe in free speech.

    Trav:  There is nothing to figure out about who I am. I am me.  I am only me. This is my only account. I'm not anyone else pretending to be Sola or using this mane to hide behind.  I am a great reader of many posts and comments on Soulcast.  But I don't post much myself.  I comment occasionally, when something strikes my fancy.


    Lucy: I'm glad I at least amuse someone.
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 31, 2008....

    Ed - My cyber-diagnosis is an educated guess, and done without specific, normal, helpful, tools to boot.  I could be *very* wrong - there's a 50/50 chance I am.  I'm not bad at diagnostics, it's not my area of expertice (sp?), but I do have experience in it.  (I do know that my diagnostic ability is better than my spelling ability! LOL) 

    I'm not sure I'm getting what you mean by "good application of communication being a two-way street."  It's early for me, and I've not had java yet. (Nice excuse, eh? hehe)  Gimme a clue, please?

    I have some other stuff to say, so instead of doing it in another comment, I'll just continue here.  You might as well refill that coffee cup. =)

    I decided to get involved in this because I saw clearly it was time to start putting reality on the table as much as possible.  No matter what anyone does, or doesn't do, there is a pattern with this person that is unyielding.  I am concerned about those who think that just "caring" enough, or "loving" enough will be helpful to whoever this Hottips person is.  These people know not what they do!!  They are actually feeding and enabling this person's illness!!  They do not understand that, more than likely, that lovey dovey response just "feeds the monster."  While I find it admirable to choose to "care" in the sweet cuddly ways, sometimes sweet and cuddly is NOT good for the person.   "Do no harm" is the mantra called for here.

    I want those people to know - "kindness" and "cuddly" *WAS* attempted in several ways first.  Both publicly and privately, and by several.  Hottips cynically saw that as manipulation and dishonesty - exactly the way Hottips uses "loving" and "caring" obviously.  So, the best choice was to just take off the proverbial gloves, and lay it out on the table. No one punched Hottips, yet Hottips has done plenty of punching.  I wonder if the cuddly-lovers would allow a person in their actual presence to continue to throw punches at most everyone in the living room.  I wonder if they would feel the need to stand up, and help contain the out of control person who was hurting people.  I wonder why it is okay to think that continuing to enable the bully on the playground is a good choice.

    The only thing that really has the opportunity to speak love to some types is straight forward, seemingly brutal, honesty.  That's difficult to accomplish with the bully who has an askewed viewpoint of what honesty is.  Hottips MAIN tattle tale is that their version of honesty changes with the winds blowing through their mind, and is generated by deep inner emotions.  The antagonist must opperate this way.  I think this concept is particularly difficult for those who have been taught that love is *always* sweet, and that sweet love conquers all.  The "all they need is someone to love them" is not a good response to *every* person. 

    People, for the most part, hate conflict.  But the bottom line is, there is going to be conflict - sparks when the two poles meet together.  Some just don't want to see anything negative.  But, anyone who cares to look, can see that a positive pole MUST have a negative pole.  Balance is needed.  Some people are so deep into one pole or the other that they can not respect, and therefore accept, the necessity of the opposing pole.  They can't see that the opposing pole has merit, and is usefull.  All they know is how they feel at the moment.  All they want is for the conflict to end.

    That said, the nitty-gritty of what this entire blog post is all about - understanding the behavior being displayed - is our goal.  

    Take a moment to realize that Hottips, as soon as someone disagrees with them - from THEIR  ever changing perspective - starts to censor their "offender" and then *REACT*.  React in a vile and, seemingly, opposite ways than is warrented - doing the very things they proclaim to hate; becoming what they hate. 

    Why?

    To begin . .  one has to find what that person has RESPECT for. Find out their values, beliefs, and assumptions.  Realize that the thing that {normal} people DO is what they *respect* for the most part.  That fact is inherant to maintaining enough self-esteem to stay alive. 

    Hottips professes to respect honesty, humanitarian efforts, defending the downtrodden and the oppressed.  Standing up for the little guy who can't stand up for themselves.

    Hottips ACTUALLY respects . . . ????  Well, given that most people DO what they respect . . . you do the math.

    The next thing to figure out is . . . the opposite.  Find out what they DISRESPECT.  

    Hottips professes to disrespect oppression, censorship, cliques, populatity, ETC.

    Due to many factors, people sometimes do what they disrespect as well.  This is the area that becomes murky, and much harder to see, but if you find it, it's worth it's weight in gold. 

    Hottips ACTUALLY disrespects  -  ????   Who knows.  We can't get past the reactionary responses of this person long enough to truly know.  The antagonist takes over almost immediately.  They react to anyone who disagrees with them with censorship (something they profess to have a disdain for).  They react with insults, harsh words, making fun, ridiculous comparisons, and actions that show their own desire for control and power.  They bait with empathy, wait for a bite, and pounce.  Animal tactics.  This person understands nature.  (Not necessarily HUMAN nature, but nature none-the-less)

    This person is having F U N being the antagonist.  They think they are doing something harmless, because it's done on the internet.  It's a persona.  It's a way of working out their inner C.R.A.P.  (Control, Revenge, Anger, Power) in a way they perceive as harmless.  They've bought into the garbage that sticks and stones may break the bones but "words" can never hurt.  Antiquated, at best.

    This is self-therapy for Hottips. We are ALL here for the same reasons.  We all use our blogs to express ourselves.  Our inner-selves come out in our writings.  The majority of us are doing this in a healthy manner.  Hottips has a whole lot of C.R.A.P. inside, and must feel that letting it out in this manner is their only safe way of doing so.  I highly doubt this person would *ever* act this way in person. Those around them must see them as the nicest person in the world. 

    Definitively, the best way to deal with C.R.A.P. is to get it out.  How can one look at C.R.A.P. and call it anything but what it is?  No amount of cuddly love is going to make the stench of C.R.A.P. go away.  The way to get rid of C.R.A.P. is to put it somewhere it doesn't cause us pain in our gut.   Hottips does not have the ability to simply flush their C.R.A.P. via a simple expression of it.  They apparently feel the need to spread it around, smearing people, so they look and smell as ugly to Hottips as Hottips looks and smells to themselves.  Misery LOVES company.

    If you want to show love and caring to Hottips, don't swallow the "empathy" bait - it's C.R.A.P. tied up with a pretty ribbon, but when you open the box - it explodes.  They have shown they don't undersand empathy, and will turn it to C.R.A.P.  Care about them enough to feed them the truth.

    ~Grace~

  • travelr712 said on Jan 31, 2008....
    silver - so you're saying it's all an act just to get attention? wow!  if that's true, that's the worst motivation in my opinion for someone to treat others that way. and i don't mean about some scathing blogs s/he's written about me, i mean some of the terrible things she's commented on people's blogs who were having real problems in their lives and were just coming here for some advice and support. if someone would take her comments seriously, they could do perminant damage to those people in their emotional state.
     
    solemente - i'm sorry, i thought you said earlier that you were an alt. i'm curious as to why you read so many blogs, and seldom actively participate. i believe you're an intelligent person with much to say that could be beneficial. but hey, this is a free blog, and you can do whatever you feel is right as far as i'm concerned.
     
    grace - first, i'll say that this was a pretty good answer to my question, thank you. second, since hottips main battle cry is about posers who seemingly cowtow to the masses to be liked, well, this post is definately not on most people's list as uplifting, enlightening and encouraging, not what the 'popular crowd' as she puts it, likes to get involved with, so she should have respect for me now that i've 'charted my own course', should she not? and third, i disagree with all the sentaments of 'just leave her alone and she'll go away', or 'be nice to her and maybe she'll change'. as you have pointed out, many have tried, in the past few weeks, and in the more distant past. it does no good.
     
    but here's what i know about her/him and people like them. if everyone else just either ignores their actions hoping they'll go away, or tries what you call 'sweet love' with them, it only affirms and encourages their actions, just as you've pointed out here. it also says to them that the rest of the community is intimidated by that person, making them believe they are superior in intellect, resolve, and method, simply because no one will stand up and call them out. i, however, am not intimidated by these tactics in the lest. i gave that intimidation up when i entered high school. i am also not intimidated by the impression some may have about me openly dealing with these issues. if they think i'm a jerk, they think i'm a jerk, and i go on with my day. at least they have something to base it on that i believe is important. so since this is 'open, uncensored blogging', then the issue of how one member here treats one or all members, is equally fair game. i have learned the lesson of the nazi regime. when no one stands up, everyone loses. but when everyone stands together against such agression and tyrany, it is defeated.
     
    and yes, "jessi", that's my perspective :-)
  • solamente_me said on Jan 31, 2008....
    No, I've never claimed to be an alt. In fact, I've stated several times that I'm not.

    Hottips has accused me of being an alt of Silver, of Zayda, of others. Cam and Cops did as well. And so did Destiny.  And so did some Alison something or other some time ago.  They all seem to think I am someone else, which is why it doesn't surprise me that you do to.

    I honestly like to read and comment on other posts more than I like to write anything myself.  It's just my approach.  I like responding to something that's already been written than writing something and awaiting a response.  I'm a bit quirky that way I suppose.

    If something strikes my fancy, maybe I'll blog about it.

    But, then, alot of SC has become kind of "meh" lately, so I don't want to add to the "meh".
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 31, 2008....
    Trav -  It's just my OPINION.  That, and $1.39 will get you a Pepsi.   I'm not  asserting here, just educated guessing, and utilizing my first amendment rights. =)
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Jan 31, 2008....

    I just re-read Hottips psyc "acessment" of you, Trav.  I asked Hottips last week if they had training in psychology, and they responded that they didn't - but had learned about people from people. 

    It's funny how these types can't take what they dish out.  It's sad how fragile some people are. How when they are treated as they treat others, the recoil is drastic and intended to be intimidating.  Such attitudes keep humankind in a state of war and death.

    I wish they'd just wrte that novel that's begging to get out and get rich off of it. 

  • silverwhisper said on Jan 31, 2008....
    you know what's funny? i too once asked solamente me if i knew her by a different name, so i guess that's a pretty common sentiment.

    grace: funny, copsunited/copsextrordinaire [sic] used to say the same re: psych.

    ed
  • Expendable said on Jan 31, 2008....

    Trav, the clique of one wants confrontation. Confrontation gets them more attention. The way to fight them is to ignore them and reporting their abuse. Unfortunately the clique of one is a hydra - when one head gets cut off, another one grows. But eventually they learn or give up.

  • solamente_me said on Jan 31, 2008....

    You know, Silverwhisper, I completely forgot that you did that.

    I guess I have a very common writing style.

  • silverwhisper said on Jan 31, 2008....
    solamente me: it was very early on after i first encountered you, as i recall. given that it's been a while, i'd almost forgotten that, myself. :>

    ed
  • Zayda said on Jan 31, 2008....
    You know, I'm kind of flattered when people think she is me. I rather like her snark. :)
  • travelr712 said on Jan 31, 2008....
    solamente - yeah, that must've been where i got the idea. but now i know you are only you. can you tell me what emotion 'meh' expresses? it's not one i'm familiar with.
     
    grace - well, that's all anyone really does here, except when they're writing about their own life situations, imo. we're expressing our opinions, and we're all entitled to them, whatever they may be.
     
     
     
  • travelr712 said on Jan 31, 2008....
    silver - ya know, i wonder how many people here have alts really?
     
    zayda - well, i guess you two have a few traits in common, like being direct and not afraid of confrontation. but snarky? nah, not seein it. :-)
  • Lucytorial said on Jan 31, 2008....
    OMG this is still going on...... okay Lucy's 2 bob worth.. (lucy currency holds for nothing these days so I give no guarantees that you can exchange it to anything of value)

    I don't like nor not like hottips, its a nothingness in a way but amusement.  Zayda is direct thats her intelligence and trav I agree there is a bit of a difference there although I've cowered a few times myself.... I bet she hits hard, open handed and leaves a red mark! (LOL)

    I think the funniest thing she (hottips) ever said was that I was silvers lap dog... ROFLMAO so I barked back...

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion of course, but to deliberately set out to control others and their thoughts and perception without merit or foundation in real life or here is not a wise and intelligent thing to do. It will happen, where ever there is a forum where identities can remain hidden, obscured, protected then it will happen.  I see it in this way, you can either be offended or enjoy the absolute absurdity of it, by taking it seriously then we bow to their level of intelligence!

    It happens all over this site, an example of this is that I highly respect a certain political and religious blogger, I do not like the zealousness, nor the degradation with which they plaster the majority of society with yet I can as an adult still maintain my dignity without having to resort to conquests with those I disagree with as does this blogger with me - it never degrades to harsh and unfounded attacks because of that simple philosphy - self respect, integrity, understanding.

    Personalities aside psychoanalysis aside if you do not like sugar in your coffee find a juice!
  • travelr712 said on Jan 31, 2008....
    well i for one like sugar in my coffee lucy, and i understand what you're saying here. i guess i can only reiterate that everyone has their own way of handling the playground bully. for myself, i handle different ones in different ways. i work on a more situational basis where they're concerned than an overall philosophy.
  • Expendable said on Jan 31, 2008....

    ed, I remember you asked me if I was her. Did you ask others too?

    trav, I know 'meh'. it's boring, uninteresting stuff you might toy with out of boredom but that's all.

    -ex

  • Suddenrain said on Feb 01, 2008....
    I believe Hottips serves a purpose here.  I am not afraid of her, rather I find her funny. There was a line she crossed with me once. We battled through that. My question is, when do you forgive or just accept a person for who they are? I have seen soft spots in Hottips although she might vigorously deny it. It may be a part of her personality, it may be made up or a part of a dual personality. I don't have all the answers but life is to short to piss and moan eternally over what someone said. I'm not saying to forget because you never know, it may happen again, but until that time, a person can only upset you if you let them and/or don't understand what their line of thinking or motivation is. Hottips likes debate. She has a sharp tongue and is oppinionated about everything. It's when games are played with her own pleasure in mind at the expense of others feelings come out, that bother me. I draw the line there. That holds a certain ruthlessness. I have my own suspicions about her but have called a truce with her for now. I am not to hold a grudge. But I do not forget. 
  • travelr712 said on Feb 01, 2008....
    expendable - ahh, meh, like cooking shows! i get it! (well, except maybe for rachel ray, she's HOT! :-)
     
    sudden - good to see you again, it's been awhile :-)
     
    that's pretty much how i feel about that type of situation too. and if you look back through my blog, you'll see that this is the first time i've directed an entire post about another member in this light. and my purpose was not to ridicule hottips. posting examples of contradiction by a person is not ridicule, it's truth, imo. in fact, i thought this post would get about as much action as the two before it, which was negligable. i never dreamed there would be so many opinions given about her. not that i believe it will do any good, i believe she'll just keep doing what she has been all along to anyone who even appears to disagree with her opinion or perspective. i was just hoping to get a little insight into the nature of character of a person who conducts themselves as she, and thought maybe one or two people here could help me with that.
  • silverwhisper said on Feb 01, 2008....
    tobi-lee quoth:
    the funniest thing she (hottips) ever said was that i was silvers lap dog.

    did she really now? how utterly...well, i probably shouldn't say, i'm fairly certain my opinion of "hottips" is well-known to anyone who's posting here. :>

    ex: only one other. :>

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Feb 01, 2008....
    hottips said the same of me in one of her posts a couple weeks ago silver. apparantly you have a whole kennel :-)
  • Expendable said on Feb 01, 2008....

    The clique of one can't stand silver's popularity. You almost have to feel sorry for them. Almost.

  • silverwhisper said on Feb 01, 2008....
    trav: what's particularly funny about that of course is that tobi-lee has, up until very recently, been blocked from posting on my blog. :>

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Feb 01, 2008....
    expendable - that's another point that i wonder about. i mean, i know several people here have taken the opportunity on this post to take a few shots at hottips, me included, and god knows she's taken enough shots at us. but that's not really the reason i wrote this post. the point from your question that i wonder about is, like you said, she seems very jealous of anyone else's popularity, those who regularly make the featured page, but would she think the same of herself if she regurlarly made the featured page? or would it be a case of ridiculing anyone who made the featured page who was not her?
     
    silver - hmm, yeah, interesting.
  • Lucytorial said on Feb 01, 2008....
    woof! it is rather funny considering, and I think that silver is what really pissed her off, that and the fact that I actually deaned to say hello to cops briefly..... I gathered he was all hers?? **titter**

    Trav I understand what you are saying.


  • Expendable said on Feb 01, 2008....

    Trav, the clique of one resent anyone in the spotlight that isn't them. They don't resent themselves; just those who SoulCast chooses to shine it on. Silver's cranked out a ton of content, he greets practically everyone who comes in. They can't compete with that.

     

  • travelr712 said on Feb 01, 2008....
    yeah lucy, silver is #1 on her list, that's true. she's made no secret of the fact.
     
    exp - you're right about that. silver takes the time to go to many people's blogs and comments. it's like anywhere else. if you treat others with kindness and respect, and make yourself known, people will respond to you.
     
     
  • silverwhisper said on Feb 02, 2008....
    trav: there are 2 things i find funny about that jealousy--cuz that's what we're talking about here:

    1. the charge that i use alts. anybody w/ half a brain can plainly see that w/ the kind of time i spend here, using an alt such as "hottips" or maynard often did, would be logistically impossible.

    2. "hottips" has alleged that i used alts to boost my subscribers list in some fashion. but notice how it cozies up to CW, the next most popular soulcaster and never says a word about it.

    all in all, highly entertaining, IMHO.

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Feb 02, 2008....
    yeah silver, in some ways it is entertaining. and she regularly accuses me of using alts also. she's said that i'm one of your alts before, because we think so much alike in so many areas as she put it. i get the impression from what she says that there are only 5 real people on this blog, her, cops, cam, you and TNP. the rest are just alts. :-)
     
    so, do you think this is a case of someone accusing others of what they do in an attempt to throw suspicion off themselves, or do you think s/he really believes that we all have alts to deceive people? or is there another explaination?
  • silverwhisper said on Feb 02, 2008....
    bah, everyone knows that hottips is really an alt for me! :D it's what i do while oppressing all the women of soulcast! :D

    of course "hottips" is seeking to throw suspicion off itself. it's awfully unoriginal, as trolls go.

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Feb 02, 2008....
    wow ed! you're a busy guy! how do you ever find time to descrew those databases if you're spending all your time here being 57 different bloggers and oppressing women? :-P
  • Zayda said on Feb 02, 2008....
    Hell, since Ed is me, how does he have time to be me and oppress women, let alone 57 other bloggers??!?!
  • travelr712 said on Feb 02, 2008....
    he's just talented like that z . i hear he also leaps tall buildings in a single bound! :-)
  • silverwhisper said on Feb 02, 2008....
    trav: superior time management. :D

    super z: well, cuz i'm extraordinary: duh! :D

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Feb 02, 2008....
    you're actually a computer bot aren't you ed? :-)
  • silverwhisper said on Feb 02, 2008....
    [google spider siphons comments]

    what?

    [looks innocent]

    ed
  • travelr712 said on Feb 02, 2008....
    if anyone wants to see the wizard behind the curtain, here's what is really driving 'edbot':
     
  • Expendable said on Feb 03, 2008....

    really, everyone's paying too much attention to the puppet. Kinda makes you wonder what the puppetmaster's doing when he's got you distracted.

    Ignore the puppet.

    -ex.

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