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"HOW LONG HAS THIS BEEN GOIN' ON?"

No matter how long we CAN live, how long would you WANT to live? Can’t you imagine a time when you might desire the rest of death?

Let’s imagine a life-span of 1,000 years, or 10 times the extreme life-span of a modern human.

Planning for extreme life-spans: How do you fill a thousand years?

Even with perfected health and static aging, accidents will happen. Wars will break out. Terrorists will strike. Natural disasters will run their courses. Death will still intrude, and existence will still not be taken for granted. As time goes on, many of these events will rob you of friends and family.

Alas, people change. And because of the wild changes possible over a millennium, many of those you cherish will desert you, betray you, beguile you – bewitch, bother and bewilder you. Change will still inject itself despite your desires.

Let’s explore a hypothetical thousand-year life

 

The Year 2060

In your 100th year you are still surrounded by friends and family. Knowing that you now face an open-ended life, you continue your education. Your first spouse of 35 years died 20 years before static aging was invented. You take on a second spouse. You have two kids who live on with you, and many grandchildren.

 

2160

In your 200th year many original family and friends are replaced by new younger people. You have now obtained degrees in medicine, law, engineering, psychology, philosophy, biology, history and economics. You raise 8 “new” children over the century, spread out by many years. Great-great-great-great grandchildren make holidays a challenge.

 

2260

In your 300th year your continuing education dwindles to extreme specialties. You have acquired enough wealth to retire forever from work, and are tired of working, devoting all of your time to recreation. Your 2nd spouse is killed in a transportation crash on the Moon. You are now the head of 10 generations, but family ties are growing less and less valuable in this era.

 

2360

In your 400th year your accumulated wealth is slashed by interplanetary warfare, forcing you to start over. Your century off has resulted in all of your education becoming obsolete. Your descendants are spread throughout the Solar System’s inhabited worlds and the Law forbids you from making more babies. Your lifetime quota is filled.

 

2460

In your 500th year none of your original family or friends are around, all replaced. With fewer people dying and more being born, getting real estate on Earth is nearly impossible unless you are extremely rich. You’re lucky to have gotten a quaint spot on the Moon. And now people can grow younger – you can stasis at any age-condition you desire.

 

2560

In your 600th year everyone you meet reminds you of someone you once knew. You have traveled everywhere that you’ve ever wanted to go, several times. You have done everything that you’ve ever dreamed of trying, several times. You’re sick of all your old favorite foods. Mad cravings for something new obsess you.

 

2660

In your 700th year you have forgotten almost everything about your first 100 years, and have to try very hard to remember them without assistance. Everyone around you now tries out being different ages, sexes, different races, different sizes – you cannot even keep individuals straight.

 

2760

In your 800th year a radical shift in thought occurs as suicide becomes institutionalized for those who simply do not want to live on. A massive poison cloud crosses the Solar System, corroding the structures of civilization and wiping out 31% of life, half of your family and friends among them.

 

2860

In your 900th year you’re on your 21st spouse and there are members of 35 generations under you. You have opted to live on Mars, where there is a city of folks largely born in the 21st century and who like to live in a slower, more casual, old-fashioned way. Membership is for those 800 years old and above.

 

2960

In your 1000th year new technologies are completely unfathomable. Contemporary language is incomprehensible. The youngest generations seem entirely superficial and very difficult to care about. Humans are now going to other stars and amazing discoveries are being reported. But you’re finding it ever more difficult to get excited about anything, having constant déjà vu.

 

When do you start wondering: what is the point?

 

When would you want to die?

 

 

 

 



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Comments

  • desdemona said on Jan 26, 2008....
     
    man, this is curious because... I never thought of killing myself. Yet, looking at the bleak picture you have painted ... which seems kind of realistic actually ... I have to wonder if I might actually get enough one day ... reminded of some old people who seem really tired of it all and over it and even if we don't end up like them on the outside, we might still end up like them on the inside ... interesting ...
     
    fun post!
     
  • StoneMaster said on Jan 26, 2008....

    Let's see...things start getting weird around 2360.
    Still, to end up "Soylent Greening" myself ....WOW! Hard to imagine. Curious to know how people will be departing our realm voluntarily without fear.
    Even if bored stiff.
    Hmmmm.....
  • boytoy said on Jan 26, 2008....
    I die daily.Only love is worth living for.Who loves me!?hmmmmm.
  • mOOn_platOOn said on Jan 26, 2008....
     
    Beware the failure of imagination (not that you are necessarily guilty of that, hole).
     
    There are an awful lot of experiences to be had. Let's say, following the example of your most recent post on consciousness ("I'm You") what if we find a way to live another person's life while we're still alive?
     
    There are thousands of people who I wouldn't mind experiencing at least the HIGHLIGHTS of their lives as if I were them. That alone would take a couple of thousand years.
     
    Granted, this belies the purpose of extending MY life infinitely, but it would keep me from killing myself for hundreds of thousands of years.
     
  • HoleInTheCosmos said on Jan 26, 2008....
    Unless you got bored.
     
    Even with a billion lives, what are you going to learn? That many experiences are common to all. That there is no life that is completely unique experientially.
     
    And so, by the time you've been every Hollywood star, every President of the United States, all four of the Beatles and every chick you've ever wanted to bone, what do you think?
     
    Also, the pull of the "afterlife" may influence you eventually. Do you really want to cheat yourself out of life's final experience - Death?
     
  • celestialspace2001 said on Jan 26, 2008....
    fascinating dilemma you present, Mr. Cosmos. Must ponder.
  • desdemona said on Jan 26, 2008....
    mOOn when are you going to start posting again!!!???
  • travelr712 said on Jan 26, 2008....
    i think the first time i really payed attention to the concept of living multiple life spans was when i saw the movie highlander. that started in i believe the 14th  and ended in the 20th century. the idea always fascinated me. i do like the scenerio you've layed out here. but in a sense, we're doing that now. if you look at all the changes to technology, the world and human thought in the last 100 years, it is more than in the previous thousand by far, imo.
  • Kilgore_V_Trout said on Jan 26, 2008....
    As the only authentic thousand-year-old in the room, I can only say -
    stimulating post!
  • HoleInTheCosmos said on Jan 26, 2008....
    travelr712 - I agree. Imagine if you  will how such exponential change will only increase in the centuries before us?
  • StoneMaster said on Jan 26, 2008....
    Can I just put myself in an endless loop of being Brad Pitt? And then keep rewinding the part where he's poking Angelina???
  • yani said on Jan 26, 2008....
    i definitely doesn't want to live forever. God! Life is tiring. I'd love to have the choice of when i can finally die though.
     
     Lemme see. 90 years old. Yeah. I think that would be just right. I hope when I do finally die at that age, i have already seen my daughters as successful women both personally and professionally.
     
    I think by this time, I would have enjoyed most everything that life has to offer :) And I hope i won't look too bad in my coffin at this age, you know, like a sick prune or something. aw!
  • lfbno7 said on Jan 26, 2008....
    If I could choose when to die, I'd choose right now. My life is okay but I'm very curious about what comes next and I think it will be a lot more enjoyable.
  • TinSoldier said on Jan 26, 2008....
    Ever read the Lazarus Long stories by Robert A. Heinlein?

    Heh.

    Me, I'm ready to die now. But even though it is a chore I still want to live to see my children grow up and have my grandchildren. Who knows, maybe my opinion will change between now and then.


  • crybabylu said on Jan 27, 2008....
    I want to live forever.  Forever is forever.
  • lfbno7 said on Jan 27, 2008....
    You will. Fortunately not in your current body though, because the warranty on that ran out a long time ago, same as the rest of us. I think these bodies come with a 20 year warranty before things start falling apart. My kidney stones started in my 20s. Come to think of it, my bellyaches started in my teens, along with leg cramps.
  • soleme said on Jan 27, 2008....

    You have posted an interesting subject that spins in the back of my mind. Right now I do not have time to share my thoughts, but I would like to live forever, just to see the many changes in life and the advancement in technology.

     

  • secretlife said on Jan 27, 2008....
    you know, i used to think i wanted to live forever-
    but forever is an awfully longggggggggggggg time.
     
    i think it would get to the place where life itself loses its value if people live such long lives.
     
  • HoleInTheCosmos said on Jan 28, 2008....
     
    I decided to accept mOOn platOOn's challenge and I have extended the life of our hypothetical person for ANOTHER thousand years....will post shortly. I was surprised to discover that I was able to make it through the Thousand Year Blues. But guess what? Ifbno7 was correct.
     
  • HoleInTheCosmos said on Jan 29, 2008....
    hey secret and mOOn - I went ahead and tried to imagine why life might actually NOT ever get old. You may not like the results, but they are extrapolations of what we know so they are (IMO) entirely possible...
     
     
    ...or at least, hopefully, amusing.
     
    Live on!
     

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