I'm curious here, do the views of these two women represent the women on soulcast as a whole? Are the women of Soulcast truly brow beaten and impossed upon by their male counterparts? Not just by me but by a majority of the males here, Silverwhisper in particular is mentioned as one of the worst oppressors of women so now I'm curious, at hottips4u and randomsoul isolated whack jobs who feel oppression where there is little or none, or are they the only women with the . . .ovarian testitude to come out and say what all of you are feeling?
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phoeby said on Jan 26, 2008....
oppression, like all emotions is an inside job. i don't feel oppressed. but i deliberately don't read the posts that creep me out. Therefore i'm in control of the stuff that i read, think and feel. It's about inner power.love phoeby -
silverwhisper said on Jan 26, 2008....
i have no idea who randomsoul is talking about, and frankly, i don't even know who randomsoul is. AFAICT, that's just a random rant, to be honest.
"hottips", sadly, is known to me. since i ate recently, i prefer not to discuss it.
the notion of me "oppressing" people is really very funny, though. heh...thank you sean, i needed a laugh. :>
although i do have to wonder whether giving "hottips" the attention she so desperately craves is a good idea...
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destinydiva said on Jan 26, 2008....
I'm in enough shit here at soulcast anyway so I am gonna speak my mind.
silver you joined in zaydas post yesterday which was giving hottips the attention she craves, as you put it, yet you say here you wonder if its a good idea?
and zaydas isnt the only one you have been more than happy to join in with, so although I dont think you deserve all what those posts say, I do find it a bit hypocritical.
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davidstar said on Jan 26, 2008....
I'm glad you posted this, Sean. I was thinking about doing it myself, I told her just what I thought! Someone who stirs the pot, is not different than the sh#@t she is stirring, if you ask me. -
silverwhisper said on Jan 26, 2008....
destinydiva: and you're entitled to your opinion, of course. however, i want to address this quickly:
zayda's blog entry was the culmination of a lot of stuff, destiny, and you know it just as well as i do. it's hardlly like "hottips" has exactly ignored zayda. so when someone decides to take a swipe back, that's one thing.
but AFAICT, "hottips" is barely aware that sean's even around. so, while like sean i'm laughing at the blog entry that he linked (the one by hottips, cuz like i said, i don't know randomsoul), sean isn't responding to a series of comments, blog entries, etc. i know that you're capable of seeing the difference, destiny. you're free to disagree w/ me that this merits an exemption to the "don't feel trolls" principle, but i know you can see there is one.
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davidstar said on Jan 26, 2008....
I wouldn't be surprised if ransomed soul isn't hottips, she accuses everyone else of having multiple usernames. -
Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
DestinyDiva: I'll keep this short and simple. Your are nothing but a fool if you buy into hottips crap.
The idea that Silverwhisper would oppress anyone is laughable at best. -
destinydiva said on Jan 26, 2008....
zayda, I didnt adress the issue of whether silver would oppress anyone. I was talking about the feeding the trolls part.
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Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
And you think you aren't feeding the trolls by PMing her (which is obvious that you do by the way she refers to you in her lunatic comments on her own blog) and responding to her. Before you throw around accusations of hypocrisy, take a good hard long look in the mirror. -
destinydiva said on Jan 26, 2008....
zayda I pm'd you, I am sick and tired of public battles -
Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
If you want to say something, say it publicly or don't bother. I won't respond to PM. -
destinydiva said on Jan 26, 2008....
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polarheart said on Jan 26, 2008....
I dont feel oppressed by Ed or anyone else for that matter. A person can either pick an offense or oppression or walk right past it. That being said I have never felt that Ed's intentions was to oppress me or anyone else (that which I have seen). I think anyone who feels oppressed by ED is very immature. Granted I am rather sensitive, but I've outgrown it here at SC. . .I still struggle a bit in real life :-) -
hottips4u said on Jan 26, 2008....
Lol, and ain't we all about ourselves in here tonight.... :)
Sean and me are not at odds with one another, not even with using me as a stepping stone to run damage control for Ed (SilverWhisper). And, by the way, I knew that post was a trap when I entered it, why ?....because I wanted to see the objective. Guess this was it, and so here I am.
I expressed how and why I view Ed as I do, he represents all posers imo, and does a prolific job at it by the way. He is a huge hypocrite as Destiny points out and that is more or less the foundation that he has used to become Soulcast No. 1, not because I voted for him.
I never said he was stupid, even I couldn't be that ignorant.
Consider, a lot of me and Destiny's problems in the past, was not actually things I did to her or she did to me, it was what others did to us, and how they used us against each other for their own motivations and/or agenda's. None of it did anything for me or Destiny.
Both of us has been used rather poorly by a group of individuals that purport to be humanitarians, and only concerned for others rather than themselves. Yea, anyways, good luck with that.
Destiny was used like a rag amongst those in here she went to battle for, stood up for and believed in. You each betrayed her trust and hid something behind her back that placed her in the light of a fool, not of her doing. You've all called her names and I've seen you stomp her friendship into crumbs beneath your snobbish feet. If anyone was a troll, its all of you trolling the halls of Soulcast seeking out any that will promote YOU at their expense. Playing with peoples emotions is what the lot of you do, your users and hypocrites, not popular anywhere in the world but that of Soulcast, otherwise you would be in that world and not spend your lives in here as you do each and every day of the year practically where you are someone.
Destiny is someone I can relate to in many ways and I consider an associate whether she does me or not, that isn't the point. The point is, she is just another woman in a long list of women who flow through Soulcast as real or persona that is abused and used, imo.
I wish the over 600 subscribers to Silverwhisper were available other than a notch on his tab, but the truth of the matter is, they either never existed other than as persona's, existed in RL and no longer visit soulcast, or are the few that enter and stay. If each were here, I am sure the opinions would be more diverse and not as secular in an attack group as I see forming (told you a war was brewing in middle earth) and attacking what was once a friend and confidant. You took back the carrot of friendship from her when she decided not to be the butt of your personal jokes behind her back, and I don't blame her. She became stupid when she choose of her own free will to speak with me, whether on/in a post or messages, that was NONE OF ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS. But I don't see what or how she became automatically "stupid" other than she wasn't listening specifically to this lil prejudice group.
Yes women of Soulcast are used and abuse, in many ways, the worst of which is convincing them who and who not to talk to, or what to talk about for crying out loud.
Bottom line, each of you are the reason no one stays here, I just point that out, you have a crew and only that crew matters. If anyone has damaged Soulcast, its been you with the overdoses of empathy, the detrimental fashion in which you portray females as weak and ignorant and just something to fuck or cook. We are women, we are Mother's. and we are not taking any of your shit any longer just to add another subscriber to any of your popular list bullshit.
Its that simple.
Hottips4u
Jessi.
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vacantmind said on Jan 26, 2008....
I'm just going to state my opinion here. I don't feel oppressed by any person. I don't think that is even a possiblity considering that silverwhisper really has no power here. He is just another person posting. Now, yes he has many friends here and many people that follow him but that speaks to his defense.To feel oppressed I have to give someone that ability to affect me and well that's just not going to happen. -
Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
Wow, Hottips, so you think the 600 people who subscribe to Silverwhisper don't exist because he created all those people, accounts himself?
So, Polarheart doesn't exist as a person in RL.
Miss Mimi doesn't exist as a person in RL?
Mamie doesn't exist as a person in RL?
None of these people exist in RL:- bluegum
- StillNotListening
- cindylu
- pepperman
- in_bocca_al_lupo3
- Tappa
- carterbabe3
- FutureGoddess
- Roe
- davidstar
- Fully*Alive
- Aqua-Bristol
- absolutely
- -ocean-
- Wish_Upon_A_Star
- Carefully
- mOOn_platOOn
- PsychoDramaQueen
- DNN_News
- GracefullyGrowing
I'm sure that all those people will be oh so glad to know that you think they are some caricature of Silverwhisper and they can't think on their own.
You, hottips, along with Copsunited and CamDaMan have driven off more people from hottips than any other single person here ever has.
You are nothing but a virus to this place.
Oh, and perhaps you should let Destiny speak for herself instead of speaking for her. If she thinks Ed is a hypocrite, then let her say it here and publicly so we will know how she really feels instead of hearing her words from your mouth. -
Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
Just how many people here are you accusing of betraying Destiny's trust? All of us? Contrary to your warped beliefs, not all of us knew Grace was Travelr's estranged wife. So, it's a little hard to hide what one does not know from anyone. You should stop your sweeping accusations about everyone here. I hid nothing from Destiny because I knew nothing about the situation until she posted about it -
hottips4u said on Jan 26, 2008....
Zayda : READ
I wish the over 600 subscribers to Silverwhisper were available other than a notch on his tab, but the truth of the matter is, they either never existed other than as persona's, existed in RL and no longer visit soulcast, (in part) you silly rabbit !
I speak for myself and not at all for Destiny, she is more than capable of it too.
And, if you want Zayda, I'll go and collect many instances where you yourself tell someone to message you, or, like just last night....remember saying " ok...you have a PM coming ?...I can and will retrieve it if it becomes necessary.
That my dear Zayda, is in part, what makes you a liar and a hypocrite and I never had to leave this specific post to prove it. Oh my....hehe
Jessi.
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Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
I did read. As written your sentence says that you wish those people existed in RL. So, you are claiming that none of those people are anything other than a persona Silver has created. All 600 + of them. Perhaps you should learn to write coherently in the first place.
In essence you are saying that none of Silverwhisper's 600+ subscribers can even think for themselves. Way to insult everyone subscribed to him. Nice tactic there, Hottips.
Yes, I told QP she had a PM coming because she asked for a translation of something. She asked me to PM her, which I haven't, the translation of my blog. I didn't feel the need to PM her, however, after what I originally wrote is largely translated into English already by those taking guesses at it.
I'm not lying about anything, Hottips.
Sure, I've had people PM me in the past when I didn't want to discuss something personal on here. There's no crime in that.
You have proven absolutely nothing about me. But if you think you can. Go ahead. Take me on. Let's see just what you've got Hottips. If you think you can 1) accurately represent my words without clipping them or puling them out of context like we have seen you do already this week with one of travel's comments that you copied for Destiny but only copied part of, the part that was most convenient for you to copy to represent your warped view.
I've also had people PM and I have not responded to those PMs when there was a hidden agenda to them. Just like there is an agenda to you manipulating Destiny. Don't think that people don't see it. You are manipulating her vulnerability with your vileness.
And there is no denying that you, Cam, and Cops have driven off more people than anyone else on Soulcast would ever dream of doing. It's people like you that are slowly destroying Soulcast. -
TinSoldier said on Jan 26, 2008....
Whatever. I'm a real person and I conversed with ed/silverwhisper online in other places before I finally came here.
For whatever that is worth.
*ducks back out of the blog*
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hottips4u said on Jan 26, 2008....
Sorry, I thought it was you who had a direct hand in kicking a senior citizen all over Soulcast ? I never had the chance to ask.... Did you enjoy yourself ? Did it feel good to you and your friends to attack and push until you had him expelled from soulcast ?
The man was in his 80's for crying out loud, rant or not, thats a senior citizen and I watched you and your group practice your forms of humanitarian aid and loving concern for your fellow man. Beating up on and emotionally abusing 80 plus old individuals like you did, doesn't reflect on me, rather...it clearly portrays exactly what and who you are and moreover, what you are about....and its not being a humanitarian sweety . Its about being an overstuffed full of yourself predator living in the light of a snob. Thats all you are about Zayda dear, and you know I know it.
Hottips4u
Jessi.
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Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
Ah yes, Hottips, but once again, you are taking things out of context. You are are failing to even mention how that so-called helpless senior citizen attacked many a member of Soulcast and drove them from Soulcast first.
Any time you mention people defending themselves against Copsunited, you conveniently play the senior citizen card but fail to put that in any context whatsoever. So, no, defending myself against him is no reflection on me whatsoever.
Copsunited, the 80 year old you refer to, was as vile, if not more so than you. Anyone can look at the vestiges of his blog that he didn't delete and see his rampant racism and his attacks on other people.
There are more examples of his true nature in his resurrected self of CopsExtrordinaire. But you manipulate the situation by not mentioning those either.
You conveniently forget his attacks on Mom and MissUnderstood. You leave that completely out of the picture. You conveniently leave out his racist remarks to others on here, including TBS and Silverwhisper. You are only representing a small portion of the whole situation, as you have over and over again, because you are manipulating everything by telling only half truths.
Yet you chose to forget that part of it.
We didn't expel Copsunited from Soulcast. He brought that on himself through his racist and misogynist attacks on other people. People that he along with you and CamDaMan drove from Soulcast long before Soulcast chose to ban the username of Copsunited. But then he came back under another one now didn't he? And once again, he acted in much the same way. For you see, he has never been truly banned from Soulcast, only his first username was for <i><b>his</b></i> actions and no one else's.
Call me a snob all you want to. I would rather be a snob than what you and Copsunited are any day of the week. -
SeanRenaud said on Jan 26, 2008....
Once again how exactly are women used and abused here on Soulcast? If I had to pick a group that has been singled out and pummeled I would say that the Religious right in general and Christians in particular. There are only a handful of anti-women posts, and I made atleast half of them! -
Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
Sean--We aren't being used and abused. At least not that I see. -
hottips4u said on Jan 26, 2008....
Zayda :
What we are? We are humans, as a humanitarian (snickering) you (Zayda) should have been able to identify with the stories of his adventures in various wars. How he grew up in America as a Native American Indian (of which I am also) and despite that fact, grew in rank and status in his country. About how he had a bi-racial grandchild he loved and cherished dearly once overcoming his own prejudice against his own daughter who brought him that grandchild.
When he was ranting however, as an aging elder citizen, maybe loosing some of his mind, maybe illness, whatever...when he was ranting away (not unlike you do actually) you could have easily ignored those moments and addressed him when he was more appealing.
But you did not. You attacked him mercilessly along with your known crew in here.
You emotionally brow beat him into fits of rage by an emotionally tired old man.
You are nothing more than an abuser/user/poser/snob, but you are no humanitarian, and never will be, imo.
Hottips4u
Jessi.
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Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
And neither will you be one, Jessi. You never will be.
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PassionTraveler said on Jan 26, 2008....
SW oppressing women? This is a joke right? SW has only been the defender of people, the champion of SoulCast integrity and a voice of reason and honesty. PT -
hottips4u said on Jan 26, 2008....
Sean : Women of SoulCast Hear Me !
Even the title suppresses women as a direct order from a male.
Doesn't sound like a plea, especially with an exclamation point !
Condesending to women in and of itself.
Sean, you want examples, take a stroll to the post I've recently made and you'll find many ways women have express how they feel, been abused in here, or told who to speak to and or not to. Every woman deserves better than they receive in life, imo, and to a woman... being put out by a circle of friends and associates is by far nothing less than abuse be it emotionally or otherwise. Even Destiny above was threatened as "stupid" if she spoke and or listen to me....which was a loosely implied threat to have her group of friends turn their backs on her for doing so.
That in no way promotes individualism, humanitarianism or anything but abuse by alleged friends. Thats being a dictator, not a friend(s).
Respectfully,
Hottip4u
Jessi.
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sheltercrow said on Jan 26, 2008....
"randomsoul isolated whack jobs who feel oppression where there is little or none, or are they the only women with the . . .ovarian testitude to come out and say what all of you are feeling?"
Silverwhisper: to be quite honest you have tried to browbeat before. I remember a comment you made concerning a certain soulmate pitty hound of yours when you were going to... hum... what was that word you used... admonish... yes.
A sad incident where you stepped over the threshold from the relative neutral to the shill for your cliché.
I deleted the post for the sake of peace but the fact still lingers.
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travelr712 said on Jan 26, 2008....
i DID NOT use destiny in any way, and i find it offensive that anyone would say i did. grace and i decided that we did not want to associate ourselves here because she should have her own identity, not be 'the estranged mrs travelr'. at the time that grace joined soulcast, destiny and i were not, and had not been, communicating at all, and did not for nearly two months afterward. therefore, the identity of ANYONE on this blog, no matter who it is, was none of her business. it was my own folly for trusting her last sunday with telling her at all, at grace's request, because she is the one who decided that this whole situation was specifically directed at hurting her, something that it never was. i did not set out to hurt destiny, she took that hurt upon herself, and wrongly so. it is GRACE'S business who does and does not know her identity, and no one else's. -
travelr712 said on Jan 26, 2008....
one more thing. now the control of grace's identity is gone, because of what destiny did in betraying MY trust. she is NOT the victim here. -
hottips4u said on Jan 26, 2008....
Travelr...you are such a wiener, how how this green earth you were able to impress three..yes count them three ( 3 ) different women to marry your sorry sissy self is beyond me, but I am told its not due to your dick, so it must have been impressed via what promises ? money ? nagging ? In any event, that all equated to three 3 failed marriages and who knows how many females you've either used or abused over the years ? I hear abouts that you can be a good father....but I have to ask....what kind of father doesn't know how to communicate with a child they allegedly love ? Even you admit to having to "learn" what he is talking about. Where in hell have you been ? Clearly not in his daily life otherwise, they is nothing to learn, its natural.
Of course you would deem Destiny NOT a victim, and you are. I'd go one better to bet money that each of your failed marriages was Their fault and again you the victim. You are just disgusting.
Anyways, that is not what I came here for. But the following is : Now if you have any doubt about "pressure from the pack" mentality of whom and/or who to communicate with. consider the following (by the way, they are talking about me, once again, Behind My Back ---- allegedly (lucy) playing my friend, but not to be a friend, but to USE as a twisted form of entertainment, and that my friends is just another form of abuse that I have been addressing, consider :
__________________________________inpart....Zayda said about 2 hours ago....
Lucytorial said 1 minute ago....
Why bother trav, you are only giving her fuel for the fire she is trying desperately to light!
Everyone keeps posting about her, commenting to her they are giving her somewhere to go.
Emphasis mine--then why do you keep commenting to her?
And yes, I realize I created a post regarding her, but if you are asking why people keep posting to her and commenting to her, perhaps you could explain why you keep doing it yourself? Not that I am surprised that you are.
You had your go but now it's not worth it, but why do it in the first place. She only takes your comments as encouragement as well you know, especially given your history with her and Copsunited, Lucy.
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Hi Zayda, yes I know it sounded terribe, I commented yesterday to her.. I did mention that above I hope.Lucytorial said about 2 hours ago....
As for last year Zayda, I don't actually remember her then, I only remember what cops and I did and yes, it was bad... no it was truly epically shitty!I have apologised for that and won't be going there again if thats what you are getting at... I can't keep apologising for it, it was a long time ago and my intentions are not those intentions..
It was a whim Zayda as we all have them and I know that it was fueling her, that is why I'm not anymore..
Odd, Lucy never said that to me, nor moments ago in another of my post. So yes, the popular crew mentality does exist here in Soulcast...and yet another member being admonished for alleged association with me, Hottips4u (jessi)...
Abuse comes in many forms, this is but only one such form I am no longer remaining silent upon, for myself and every female here now or to come.
Jessi.
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Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
Once again Hottips, you are pulling comments out of context to only represent part of a discussion and manipulate things to appear a certain way.
How about copying the whole serious of comments between me, trav, and lucy, instead of just choosing a portion of them?
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Seriously she is absolutely hillarious and whats more funny is that people here are taking her seriously!Lucytorial said about 4 hours ago....
man, everyone seems hell intent on proving themselves because of what this dip shit writes! am I wrong here or are you all hetted up by someone who is not really that important??
Just asking thats all.
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travelr712 said about 3 hours ago....
no, not at all lucy. this was to show how manipulative she is, and also so that people can see what my intentions were with her all along, and that i achieved my goal, and now i'm done with it. i noticed people were starting to buy into her fabricated bullshit, so i posted this example on her blog, which she subsequently deleted, but i had also made my own post. so if people start to believe anything she says about anyone, they can be directed here to see an example of what a lying, manipulative person she really is. -
Why bother trav, you are only giving her fuel for the fire she is trying desperately to light!Lucytorial said about 3 hours ago....
Everyone keeps posting about her, commenting to her they are giving her somewhere to go..
Just leave it, seriously I had a little go cause I thought it was funny and now I'm over it, not worth it, there are far more interesting things and people here than her.
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Zayda said about 3 hours ago....
Lucytorial said 1 minute ago....
Why bother trav, you are only giving her fuel for the fire she is trying desperately to light!
Everyone keeps posting about her, commenting to her they are giving her somewhere to go.
Emphasis mine--then why do you keep commenting to her?
And yes, I realize I created a post regarding her, but if you are asking why people keep posting to her and commenting to her, perhaps you could explain why you keep doing it yourself? Not that I am surprised that you are.
You had your go but now it's not worth it, but why do it in the first place. She only takes your comments as encouragement as well you know, especially given your history with her and Copsunited, Lucy.
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Hi Zayda, yes I know it sounded terribe, I commented yesterday to her.. I did mention that above I hope.Lucytorial said about 3 hours ago....
As for last year Zayda, I don't actually remember her then, I only remember what cops and I did and yes, it was bad... no it was truly epically shitty!I have apologised for that and won't be going there again if thats what you are getting at... I can't keep apologising for it, it was a long time ago and my intentions are not those intentions..
It was a whim Zayda as we all have them and I know that it was fueling her, that is why I'm not anymore..
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I wasn't getting at anything with regards to you "going there". And for one, I'm glad you apologized for it.Zayda said about 2 hours ago....
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Zayda, thanks, being here and communicating with people on this level and even making friends... why lose it all to something so stupid! why bother creating such a huge mess to clean up, last year was enough I've moved on from that spot..Lucytorial said about 2 hours ago....
Lucy clearly decided on her own that you were not worth the bother, but you failed to copy that part of the comment to show that she said that before I asked her a question. And yes, I was questioning her sincerity about you not being worth the bother given her past actions here. But she's decided on her own that acting the way she did and creating the mess she did in the past was not worth it. That was her decision uninfluenced by me or anyone else.
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Clair_de_Lune said on Jan 26, 2008....
The two 'men' who were really rude and abusive to me.. ...were the main ones responsible for turning me in the direction of leaving this place..now that I think of it.. One..posted here, and has an avatar next to his name which looks like a skull.. The other..I am pretty sure was the same party who started this thread.. Ironic, I know.. I am not sure it is because they were men though.. As I am not sure they were acting especially manly.. Yes, I think the first insulting thread actually involved this silver guy and the guy who began this thread...I see the same names..The silver guy made some indirect insult..The other two that have posted at this specific thread ..were unbelievably rude and nasty to me They were calling me names on another part of this forum..for my social/political beliefs a few weeks ago..see threads on Evolution and God.. Between them and the skull boy here I was a bit discouraged.. Maybe they don't like girls.. I don't know.. I felt led to throw in this comment though.. About as spineless and Unmaly as anything I've ever seen.. Maybe ..it's their pattern, and so no one else will be mistreated.. But since I am not much on here anymore.. who knows Normally, I don't name names.. But maybe this will help someone else.. bye now -
Clair_de_Lune said on Jan 26, 2008....
The two 'men' who were really rude and abusive to me.. ...were the main ones responsible for turning me in the direction of leaving this place..now that I think of it.. One..posted here, and has an avatar next to his name which looks like a skull.. The other..I am pretty sure was the same party who started this thread.. Ironic, I know.. I am not sure it is because they were men though.. As I am not sure they were acting especially manly.. Yes, I think the first insulting thread actually involved this silver guy and the guy who began this thread...I see the same names.. The silver guy made some indirect insult..The other two that have posted at this specific thread ..were unbelievably rude and nasty to me.. They were calling me names on another part of this forum..for my social/political beliefs a few weeks ago..see threads on Evolution and God.. Between them and the skull boy here I was a bit discouraged.. Maybe they don't like girls.. I don't know.. I felt led to throw in this comment though.. About as spineless and Unmanly as anything I've ever seen.. Maybe ..it's their pattern, and so no one else will be mistreated.. But since I am not much on here anymore.. who knows Normally, I don't name names.. But maybe this will help someone else.. bye now -
Clair_de_Lune said on Jan 26, 2008....
names of offenders
SeanRenaud
and
sheltercrow
Mr silver did not help those issues, but he was not as directly offensive..
Though I think he did chime in to attack me..
The first 2 folks I mentioned were the very worst..
Maybe it's a cover they show -supposed-concern for women here..
They were simply monsterous when I'd spoken with them :^(
Absolutely cruel, nasty and offensive brutes..
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hottips4u said on Jan 26, 2008....
Zayda : awwww....good luck with that. Yep you convinced me, yep, sure thing.
lol---- using people who you make believe are/is a friend for twisted entertainment purposes for you and your crew might be acceptable norm in your circles, but in mine its called underhanded, back-stabbing, two-faced, snobbish even.
But its still abuse. And every female in here should get the head up from you Zayda, especially if they are your friends, wouldn't you say ? Are they next ? What other females has been privy to your game of " lets use and abuse those beneath us or our status here at Soulcast"....
Who else has been (in your circle) "befriended" to boost your ego(s) thru abuse of "Fake Friends" for entertainment....on a whim ? Mamie ? Destiny ? Who is next after me ? Please, do me no favors, you've done plenty already Zayda, and thanx Lucy, for being a friend.....whatever the hell that means to any of you in that click.
Hottips4u
Jessi.
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the_infernal_optimist said on Jan 26, 2008....
To answer your original question, Sean, no, I don't think women are oppressed here at SC. I haven't felt "oppressed" on any grounds, be it gender, religion, or anything else.
You have to give someone that power over you before you can feel that way, as vacant pointed out. Even the few people I have opened my heart fully to here, a full half of which are male, have never done anything to suppress any part of my personality, nor have they chastised me for being myself, having this member or that as a friend, etc. - and nobody tells me what I can/cannot think or post.
Likewise, to be "driven" from SC, you have to submit yourself to what other people think of you/your beliefs, whatever. I'm not addressing anyone specifically here (at this time), but if you just keep on keepin' on, and you're not actively trying to hurt others, nobody can do a thing to keep you from being yourself or enjoying SC.
~Infernal
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travelr712 said on Jan 26, 2008....
once again you show how much of an idiot you are hottips. i was not saying that i was the victim, i was saying that grace was the victim. but i suppose i should have spelled it out with refrigerator magnets so that you could comprehend something so obviously over your head. -
Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
Hottips: Contrary to your delusions, I haven't used a single person on here. Not one. I've certainly not used Lucy in any way. Nor have I used any female on here that I consider a friend. And I don't consider any female on here beneath me. Well, except maybe you, but then again. We aren't really sure what you are, are we?
I don't befriend anyone to boost my ego, either.
But you keep thinking whatever you wish. Keep running your mouth with half-truths and lies. Keep digging that hole of yours deeper and deeper. -
solamente_me said on Jan 26, 2008....
Hottips: You are a liar and a moron. It's that simple. -
travelr712 said on Jan 26, 2008....
you know zayda, what hottips methods show by manipulating people's comments like this is that she sees only what she wants to see, not what is reality. but i guess that's how you have to live when your husband is a pedophile, no? -
SeanRenaud said on Jan 26, 2008....
I'm glad the consensus is that hottips us stupid. I mean I think it's well documented that I am racist, sexist and prejudice. The people I attack go in a very very precice mannor, just so you know when I will start attacking you.Space Aliens>Non Americans>Non-Californians>Non-Males>Not friends/family>Not family>Not my SO or me>Not me.Soul casters are automatically filed as being friends btw. -
sheltercrow said on Jan 26, 2008....
Why Clair_the_loon. Skull boy... lol... I like women Clair. Are you a woman? Could have fooled me. I think I did make a few cracks about you because you were whining (to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry) just like you are now.
Happy times are here again...
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Zayda said on Jan 26, 2008....
Wait...Sean...Since I'm non-Californian and Non-Male, does that mean being a Soulcaster doesn't save me from the line of attack?!? :P -
rupert7 said on Jan 27, 2008....
I have read some of this and skipped over a lot of it! Why....thats what I ask myself.Why am I bothering with any of this infantile stupidity? Why is there this constant bickering? Why this constant building mountains from molehills? They are illusions. Every mountain is in reality a molehill, there are no mountains except in the minds of those who would have it so! There is some talk of silverwhisper here for example! He has 600+ readers - well,good on him! - why do you have a problem with that? They don't really exist? What idiotic drivel is that? And if they should happen to be non existent- so what? You care but why? Jealousy?....probably!! Being out of the main loop,I was unaware of this high drama until I stumbled upon this post. I used to think SC was a place populated by intelligent adults desirous of beneficial,friendly communication with like minded adults. I see no evidence of that today! More like rabid 6 year olds fighting over who is boss BITCH. -
Kickingbird said on Jan 27, 2008....
Happy times are here again...
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rupert7 said on Jan 27, 2008....
Kickinbird........exactly!!! your picture says it all!!! -
Alyss said on Jan 27, 2008....
In response to the original question: I am not oppressed and do not consider myself to be oppressed by the males (or anyone else) of SC. -
davidstar said on Jan 27, 2008....
hottips: I would like to publically apologize to you for saying mean and unkind words to you and ransomed soul. I don't really know why I got so angry, and said unkind things to either one of you, but as we all know, I did.
I am truly sorry, and pray that you will forgive me for my unseemingly behavior. Also, please forgive me for judging you and her. That was unfair of me. I don't know what your gripe is with other soulcasters, but I truly hope that we can forget the unpleasantness that I have demonstrated. Thank you, David.
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Clair_de_Lune said on Jan 27, 2008....
wow davidstar, I am not sure the story behind this thread, but thanks for the manly decency..Wow, resfreshing..Nice to see..
As for..
Sheltercrow said:
"Why Clair_the_loon. Skull boy... lol... I like women Clair. Are you a woman? Could have fooled me. I think I did make a few cracks about you because you were whining (to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry) just like you are now.Happy times are here again..."
Thanks for proving my point...
Slick..
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Clair_de_Lune said on Jan 27, 2008....
wow davidstar, I am not sure the story behind this thread, but thanks for the manly decency..Wow, resfreshing..Nice to see..
As for..
Sheltercrow said:
"Why Clair_the_loon. Skull boy... lol... I like women Clair. Are you a woman? Could have fooled me. I think I did make a few cracks about you because you were whining (to utter a high-pitched plaintive or distressed cry) just like you are now.Happy times are here again..."
Thanks for proving my point...
Slick..
No happy times for you..
But I hope my post alerts someone..
I thought my blocking sheltercrow would result in my not seeing his words..
I guess that's only at my blog..where he was insulting as well?
Anyway, take care..
I have better things to do than waste my time talking to strangers who use words to pump up themselves or be abusive..
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Mamie said on Jan 27, 2008....
I am not oppressed here or anywhere, I find this community to be a fun, spirited place where an exchange of ideas is not only consistent but welcome! have anice day!! mamie -
RollingC said on Jan 27, 2008....
I had no idea that anyone was being oppressed here.
Unless they were blogging about a personal experience.
Other than that I find this community to be a fun place to come and spend some time and read and share experiences.
Rc
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Beautiful_Wreck said on Jan 27, 2008....
Silverwhisper oppressing anyone is a ridiculous notion.
He's never been anything but kind and helpful.
As for the other men on SC, I haven't been oppressed by anyone. I don't find SC an oppressive place at all. In fact, I think it's a fun place to be, even though I'm not here often because of other commitments. I love the variety of people you can find here.
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Bronx said on Jan 27, 2008....
Wow....davidstar, that apology was pretty big of you. Wish almost everyone above would take a cue from you today. :0)
Thanks for an enlightening weekend, Sean: now I know why some other great posts don't usually make it to the front page feature of SC! Ha-ha.....?
Seriously though, IMHO, this post, so far, cannot answer Sean's question.- unless a biased sample of opinions is satisfactory?
Definitely, there's a clique in SC but I just wish more people would defend those outside the major clique.
I hate it when some usernames just seem to come out of nowhere to 'dump on' one particular SC member at certain rather convenient times.
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SeanRenaud said on Jan 27, 2008....
I'm satisfied that most of the women do not feel oppressed by Silver or anybody else at this point. Which is what I needed. -
hottips4u said on Jan 27, 2008....
Amen Bronx, finally someone without blinders.
Want to understand in a single post what most do not ?
~~Read~~
Respectfully,
Jessica
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sheltercrow said on Jan 27, 2008....
Why Clair_the_loon. I take it that I am to express deference to you. Why? I do believe I was making comments in the hope that you would relax that paranoid persecution complex you exhibit so well.
To no avail I trudged on till you made it clear that the world has to dance to your tune. How is it to be so isolating and alienating?
I have been around in this world long enough to make that leap in logic that to recieve understanding you have to try and understand. ...sympathy with tolerance. That does not mean I am to become an sycophant to anyone.
Some have difficult natures to work with and some don't. But I must make it clear that I have no obligation to you or any others here except honest and sincere communication.
You expect respect and esteem due a superior and I am to affect an ingratiating regard for your wishes. Why? I start with the assumption that we are all equal. You start with the assumption that you are more equal.
You and I Clair will never see eye to eye till you have regard for those that you speak to first.
Oh and I would like to accept you as an equal but as a superior? I don't see any pigs flying.
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sheltercrow said on Jan 27, 2008....
If you do not participate in someone else's self actualization I think they may regard that as oppressive.
If you don't validate their existence as they percieve it you may be percieved by them as oppressive. I can understand that some may have difficulty working in a atmosphere of equals.
The freedom to express yourself without the oppression of you inner monsters is far too much freedom for some to endure.
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Bronx said on Jan 29, 2008....
hottips4u: hi.... I am certainly game, thank you....I'll check out the link. -
hellboundmercinary said on Nov 23, 2008....
I know that I don't feel opressed by the men in Soulcast. I know the difference between oppression and freedom of expression. I know when I have been oppressed. Not here.
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