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     In this election year many of the politicians on the Left will find any issue and turn it into their favor by focusing on the negative.  Health-care has become a major issue and a talking point with terms like: "universal health-care" and "affordable health-care" designed to appeal to the emotional side of peoples brain.  The big problem is most people are not that stupid and can see the big picture.
 
     Despite what people say in the media about all the millions of people who have no health insurance, everyone has access to quality health-care.  We have the best hospitals in the world and whether you are a citizen or not if you are sick or injured you can get treatment regardless of anything.  Having health insurance has nothing to do with having quality health-care.
 
     Focusing on the millions of people who have no health insurance without putting the number into context is appealing to emotions and not thinking logically.  In 2004 the estimated number of people with health insurance was close to 250 million or 84.3% of the population.  This is up 2 million from the year before.  We are hardly reaching a crisis state as the Liberals and the media like to portray if 84.3% of the population has health insurance and 100% has access to a doctor at any time.
 
     So what are the Democrats proposing?  Many when they talk of universal health care are basically hiding the fact they are leaning toward socialized medicine and of course much higher taxes.  This just simply doesn't work and a great example is the present condition of our public school system.  The government cannot handle control of such a massive entity and this is why free market solutions are far better.
 
     What about other countries that have socialized medicine?  Lets take Canada for example.  Canadians pay anywhere from 35 to 45% of their income in taxes.  A study by the Fraser Institute in Vancouver, of nations with universal health care found that Canada spends most and is ranked lowest in things like access to physicians and other health related indicators of success.  The average wait for a hospital service in 2007 was 18 weeks in Canada.
 
     In comparison the average ten year poverty rates for the US is lower at close to 12% versus close to 15% in Canada.  Even with our system the way it is with many people with no health insurance compared Canada's everyone has government insurance, 75% of people who make less than $25,000 a year have health insurance and the wait for services is no longer than someone making many times that.  There are many studies that have shown preferential treatment to people who are higher on the pay-scale in Canada.
 
     Right here and now we have issues with our health-care system, but these issues haven't reached the point we need our government to take over.  We don't need to scrap our system we need to make it better.  Taxing the crap out us and trying to create a health-care system managed by the government is crazy.  We need only look at other countries who have tried the same.  Socialism does not work and never has in a free market.  


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  • oceanwaves1 said on Jan 22, 2008....
    I will make this short because I basically don't disagree with you.  What can we do to make sure everyone has health insurance they can afford?  PEACE-DL
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 22, 2008....
    I think healthcare is important.  Why can't we bypass insurance and work directly with doctors.  One thing that needs to be done is an elimination of this price gouging.  Why does two Advil cost $9 in a doctors office?  Doctors should work on getting a list of patients that pay him/her directly instead of an insurance company, payments are for future doctor visits.
     
  • oceanwaves1 said on Jan 23, 2008....
    I thank you for the reply but I expected nothing less from you, but I have to admit I don't understand how your reply would provide healthcare for everyone.  My daughter is a nurse and I was hoping to discuss this with her before you replied, but when she came over I forgot to ask.  I believe the free clinics would solve the problem of imminent care, but I don't know about where you live but I couldn't find a listing in the phone directory for free clinic.  I believe these free clinics should be supported by monies from insurance companies, local hospitals and doctors as well as grant money.  PEACE-DL
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 23, 2008....
    There doesn't need to be free clinics, except for the indigent.  I think this problem of affordable health care should be broken down to its most basic form.  There are people who rarely go to the doctor and there are people that must go to the doctor frequently.  If everyone where to pay a flat amount on a monthly basis and this money went into a fund that pays for hospital services it would work.  If it was based on income then we could encompass the poor as well.
     
    The most important thing is for the government to coordinate, not take over.  Our public school system is an example of how the government cannot handle large entities that provide vital services. 
     
     
  • oceanwaves1 said on Jan 24, 2008....
    ok, is there anything you and I can do to help this idea along.  PEACE-DL
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 24, 2008....
    Ya, vote Republican :>
     
    Ya see I just had to go there, sorry I can't help it.
     
    No seriously I think what we are doing right now is probably the only way.  Debating and getting people to talk about it and voice their opinions so they will contact their own politicians and express what they want.
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 24, 2008....
    The most important thing is for the government to coordinate, not take over.  Our public school system is an example of how the government cannot handle large entities that provide vital services.?
     
    This quite the most absurd statement in this dingbat post. Education is taken care of on a local level not by the big bad government in Washington. 
     
    "government to coordinate, not take over"... hum this is dubious in the extreme. How prey tell do you coordinate and not take over?
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 24, 2008....
    Your use of out of you butt numbers staggers the mind. Here are the real real statistics.
     
    The Canadian poverty rate: The Fraser Institute has calculated the measure based on various sources of historical income data. The basic needs poverty rate has fallen dramatically over the past 51 years, and as of 2004, was 4.9%, representing 1.6 million Canadians.
     
    The official poverty rate in the U.S. increased for four consecutive years, from a 26-year low of 11.3% in 2000 to 12.7% in 2004, then declined somewhat to 12.3% in 2006. This means that 36.5 million people were below the official poverty thresholds in 2006, compared to 31.1 million in 2000, and that there was an increase of 5.4 million poor from 2000 to 2006 while the total population grew by 17.5 million. The poverty rate for children under 18 years old increased from 16.2% to 17.8% from 2000 to 2004 and had dropped to 17.4% in 2005 and 2006. The 2006 poverty threshold was measured according to the HHS Poverty Guidelines.
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 24, 2008....
    We'll use the U.S. Census Bureau numbers and try and get a real picture here? Great.
     
    Both the percentage and the number of people without health insurance increased in 2006. The percentage without health insurance increased from 15.3 percent in 2005 to 15.8 percent in 2006, and the number of uninsured increased from 44.8 million to 47.0 million.
     
    The number of people with health insurance increased to 249.8 million in 2006 (up from 249.0 million in 2005). In 2006, the number of people covered by private health insurance (201.7 million) and the number of people covered by government health insurance (80.3 million) were not statistically different from 2005.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 26, 2008....

    Do you want socialized medicine?

  • oceanwaves1 said on Jan 26, 2008....
    As I stated in my email stopmediabias I don't understand your plan could you put it in words for me that I could put in an e-mail to my representatives? By the way you can go here http://www.care2.com/ and they will help you start your own petition.PEACE-DL
  • oceanwaves1 said on Jan 26, 2008....
    OK sheltercrow both stopmediabias and I presented a plan how about you suggesting your idea for solving the problem.  PEACE-DL
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 26, 2008....
    There is nothing here that I can detect as a plan.

    As you may or may not know one of the prime reasons that there were and are services that are not privatized is because "privatized" comes with "profit motive".

    It is absurd to think that the profit motive will serve to promote anything other than profit maximization. Private corporations are chartered exclusively to maximize profits and the expense of all other concerns  That was why there came into being public utilities in water and electricity that had the public good and not profit as the primary concern.

    There are no examples of a private profit centered corporation as having ever done anything for the "public good". All the costs of their operations, by there very nature, are passed on to the public along with a surcharge called "profit".

    Privately owned for-profit concerns have never served the public interest. Privately owned for-profit concerns in the long run have retarded the delivery of real goods and services for the sake in all the industries they have involved themselves in.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 27, 2008....

    Privately owned for-profit companies promote competition.  Do a comparison of private schools versus public schools.  If schools competed for kids than the school that gets the most results is going to get the most profit for providing the best service.  This also weeds out bad/lazy teachers.

    It is same with our healthcare, people should pay a monthly payment to a hospital and/or a clinic for future health care.  They should have a choice of what doctor or clinic they wish to go to.  If a doctor or clinic gets a bad name they loose business. 

    Promoting competition is what works in a free market.

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