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     In the torture debate we have a lot of Soulcasters with strong opinions against the use of harsh interrogation methods by the United States.  So I thought I would propose a situation.  If Osama Bin Laden is still alive and we were manage to capture him, how exactly would we interrogate him?
 
     As it stands right now Osama would know a lot of information that could probably in the long run save thousands of lives and come close to ending this war.  It is safe to say they would have a chance to interrogate him before the media got word so the most logical path would be to move quickly. 
 
     Would we torture Osama?  Would we waterboard him?  What would be the best course of action being that a lot of possible lives could be saved by the information this man has.  We know waterboarding works the fastest but according to a lot of Soulcasters it is torture so what do we do? 


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  • sheltercrow said on Jan 25, 2008....
    To be quite honest I thing you should be tortured to see if you like it.
     
    You know my dear friend that if you were truly interested in the facts of the Bin Laden story you would have found out long ago that he was on the money end and not the operations end.
     
    Your idiocy truly astounds me.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 25, 2008....
    Thank you, I'm glad I astound you :>
     
    As usual you waist this energy on insulting me intead of answering the question.
    You Liberals have dug a hole for yourself if you get into power and then catch Osama because your definition of torture has been watered down to the point there is no form of interogation that can't be construed as torture that will work. 
     
    So what would you do to get information from him, being he is a high valued target what would you do?
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 25, 2008....
    I am not a liberal my friend.
     
    Your man Mr Bush has made a few public comments that indicate Bin Laden is not a high value target.
     
    Again your information is wrong.
     
    I believe if we sent him to you for interrogation he would crack under your withering and relentless idiocy.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 26, 2008....
    Once again another candyass response from someone who is ashamed of being a Liberal.  Still cannot answer the question. 
  • sheltercrow said on Jan 26, 2008....
    Would we torture Osama?  Would we waterboard him?  What would be the best course of action being that a lot of possible lives could be saved by the information this man has.  We know waterboarding works the fastest but according to a lot of Soulcasters it is torture so what do we do?

    This dingbat statement makes an unproven assertion (a lot of possible lives could be saved) and then asks the reader if they would participate in a sadistic act based on that unproven assertion.

    Why do you do this nonsense? You remind me of...

    Tomás de Torquemada a fifteenth century Spanish Dominican, first Inquisitor General of Spain, and confessor to Isabella of Spain. He was famously described by the Spanish chronicler Sebastián de Olmedo as "The hammer of heretics, the light of Spain, the savior of his country, the honor of his order". He is known for his campaign of persecution against the crypto-Jews and crypto-Muslims of Spain. He was one of the chief supporters of the Alhambra decree which expelled all Jews from Spain in 1492.

    Tell me why do you think a lot of peoples lives would be saved by torturing this man? Fear or use of torture would make almost anyone say anything. Physical torture is not a useful technique for interrogation. It is a sadistic expression of retribution.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 27, 2008....

    From one of my past posts:

    "According to an AP article, http://www.newsobserver.com/701/story/483403.html, the information KSM gave up; "helped the government start unraveling al-Qaeda's network through nearly 100 detainees nabbed over several years."  The article also states as many as 8 attacks were foiled, 2 of which were directed at the United States.  The irony of this debate is interesting because our supposed "torture" of KSM led to the capture of people who torture and murder innocent people." 

    I wrote this "would you torture osama" to expose the giant hole you liberals have dug for yourselves.  This is why you cannot answer the question.  You guys have watered down the definition of torture to the point there is no form of interrogation that will #1 will work and #2 cannot be defined as torture.

    And still the reality is in the war against people who use terrorism to acheive a political end, when we catch someone that has very important information, how do we get that information?  So come on, bring it, tell me how you would get this information. 

  • sheltercrow said on Jan 27, 2008....
    I see you have your leathers on today.
     
    Well that link is dead anyway.
     
    I'll get back to you later if it's worth the angst.
  • stopmediabias said on Jan 27, 2008....

     this was a post I did recently on waterboarding:

    http://www.soulcast.com/post/show/91465/Waterboarding-Saves-Lives 

    I sourced that article in my post so it is directly quoted.

    Leathers?  I hate to tell ya man, but I'm straight. 

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