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I had a really good Christmas. I hope all of you did too. Some of you might remember my dilemma about whether or not to buy my 8 year old the cell phone she wanted. I decided against it.
 
I thought that was just far too young to give a child her own phone. I know that lots of other people think it's okay to do it. But I put my foot down.
 
And we got her a bunch of other stuff she wanted instead. Santa brought her a DVD player for her room so I don't have to watch her movies all the time. To me, that was spoiling her.
 
When I was her age, I didn't even have a TV in my room at all much less a movie player. I didn't get a TV and a VCR until I was in high school.
 
Plus I bought her an MP3 player too. Not a fancy iPod like she wanted, but it still holds 300 songs. She'll be hard pressed to find more than 50 songs she actually likes. The girl is 8.
 
Other than her Drake Bell CD she doesn't really listen to music that much unless she's in the car with us and the radio is on.
 
Anyhow, I think we spoiled her with gadgets and clothes and everything she wanted except the telephone. She seemed satisfied.
 
But then my mother in law decided to ignore our wishes. She bought her the cell phone. And the service is paid up for an entire year. I had no choice but to let it happen.
 
It's not like I could say no after she had the phone in her hot little hand. And I couldn't exactly lie and say I couldn't afford the service, because it was already paid for.
 
Why must my mother in law do this? We specifically told her no cell phone. But she said we were being unreasonable and did we really want our precious daughter to be the only child without a phone?
 
She's very good at ignoring us and doing what she wants, so she can look like the good guy. It's frustrating. She drives me crazy.
 
What can you do though? I'm stuck with her. And poor Melanie grew up with her. She still treats us like we're teenagers who don't know what the hell we're doing.
 
But we're all grown up now. She needs to stop trying to run our family because that's our job.
 
[sigh]
 
So my daughter has a phone now. She's pretty effing stoked about it though so I guess I can't be too mad. It's just the principle. I made a decision and I was ignored.
 
Just for a little payback though I told Harper to put Grandma Shannon's number on speed dial.
 
And I told her to call her all the time and tell her everything. Like what she ate for lunch.
 
And give her a nice play by play of the movie she was watching. And when school starts up again, call Grandma and ask her to help with the math homework.
 
And just for kicks, even though she already asked us this question, call Grandma and ask her where babies come from. That'll be good for a laugh.
 
Payback is a bitch. But at least I can entertain myself with it.


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  • uniquely-ironic said on Dec 26, 2007....
    That woman needs to be bitch slapped.  I know she's your MIL and all, but that's just way over the top.  I'm glad you've figured out a way to pay it back.  If she keeps this nonsense up your daughter will have the keys to a car the minute she turns 15.  Perhaps you should start pre-screening this gramma's gifts.
     
    Parents may not like it, but when their kids are parents it's their job to support their kids decisions on how to raise the grandchildren.
  • Mr_Box said on Dec 26, 2007....

    Ms. Ironic I totally agree with you. I was going to end this post with the statement 'payback is a bitch and so is my MIL' but I was trying to control myself.

    She is always doing things like this. Melanie has gotten into these huge fights with her because she won't let us do our jobs as parents without butting in.

    And it isn't as though we've made all these horrible mistakes either. I think she just does it so she can feel in control.

    I have no doubt she's probably already picked out the car she's going to buy Harper someday. That is exactly something she would do.

    [sigh]

  • uniquely-ironic said on Dec 26, 2007....
    There was a time in my life I would have sighed and then stewed inside about something my MIL or FIL as well as my mom or dad would do or give the kids.  I had been raised to be respectful of people older than myself. 
     
    I've been released from the "nice person" jail since divorcing.  I figured out that I'll never be the good guy, so I might as well capitalize on being the "bad cop" with the other adults in my kids life.  You should have heard the conversation I had with my ex when he gave my son a '65 mustang when he turned 15.  It would make a sailor cry, but it also put enough fear into him that my son has to wait until he can afford the gas, years insurance and a set amount in the bank for upkeep before he's allowed to use the car.
     
    Here's my point. (I eventually get around to it)  You may have to play the bad cop to preserve the way you and your wife want to raise your daughter.  It would be helpful if your wife's onboard since it's her mother.  You may actually have to put the MIL in time out figuratively speaking in order for her to realize how serious you both are about "the rules".
     
    It's never easy.  I know grand parents want to spoil kids, but they sure don't want to bail the kids out of trouble when they're spoiled.
  • nursecutie said on Dec 26, 2007....

    Jack your mother in law sounds really annoying!! Ugh......it was really wrong of her to go against your wishes and buy the phone. I know grandparents are supposed to spoil the kids but not when it goes against the rules you set!

    Melanie told me that she always does stuff like that. Like when you tell her not to give Harper ice cream because it upset her stomach and she takes her to Ben and Jerry's!! And then you guys have to deal w/her throwing up after.

    I would want to scream and kick her butt! I am glad that you had a good Christmas otherwise though! What did Santa bring you??

    xxoo natalie xxoo

  • Twylarants said on Dec 26, 2007....
    Oh boy oh boy!  Your mil really does sound overbearing Mr Box.  Poor Mrs Box!
    I was a mil for only a short time (1 son married and divorced), but I tried to be the best one I could be, being the husband's mother, you know?  Who wants to be known as a bad mil?  Looks like you and Melanie are gonna have to have a serious sit-down with Grandma.  Good luck with that.
  • wombat said on Dec 26, 2007....
    Your MIL sounds like my ex MIL.  Anyway, I guess times are changing, but I told my son he could have a cell phone when he could pay the bill.  I finally got him one, and when he didn't pay the bill--I took it back.  He was 15.  Kudos on the payback ideas!  I should have thought of that on several issues.....
  • wombat said on Dec 26, 2007....
    P.S.  I wasn't sure if I was subscribed to you, so I did so (again probably)  but anyway, I got a kick out of your bio!
  • evil_twin said on Dec 26, 2007....
    Ah, good old Shannon! She is a piece of work isn't she? She is the epitome of a control freak. I feel sorry for Melanie because she doesn't listen to anything she says either. It's good that Melanie's dad isn't like that too.

    I loved your payback ideas though! Those are good. I can't wait to see what happens with that. I'm glad your holiday was good despite the annoying mother in law from hell. It was good seeing you on Christmas Eve! At least our mom stays out of things and let's you do what you want.

    -Kyle
  • Mr_Box said on Dec 26, 2007....

    Ms. Ironic.....I know you're right. She needs a stern talking to. Again. For the five thousandth time. It sucks that she never listens to us.

    If you look up the word stubborn in the dictionary you'll see her picture. She always has to be right.

    But she doesn't spend a lot of time with Harper because of things like this. Maybe someday she'll finally learn?

    Natty....Santa brought me a bunch of crap. Good crap. Not real crap. Maybe I should say 'stuff' and not 'crap'? I got clothes and music and books and some cool stuff from my favorite shop.

    You're right that Shannon shouldn't go against our wishes to spoil Harper. If she wants to buy her a bunch of clothes or something that's fine. But not the one thing we said no to.

    Twyla.....my MIL is something else, isn't she? I think my mother is a great MIL to have. She's cool and laid back and while she definitely spoils my daughter, she doesn't ever do things I tell her not to do!

    That's the important part. And if she doesn't agree with me, she might tell me that, but she won't go behind my back.

    wombat.....I'm glad you liked my ideas for payback. I figured there was nothing I could do now except make sure she regretted her choice to go against my wishes.

    You like my description huh? Thank you. I thought it was pretty funny myself!

    Kyle.....Shannon is a control freak. That's a good way to describe her. It was good to see you too on Christmas Eve. I'll let you know how funny it is to drive Shannon crazy with phone calls.

    Maybe I'll have Harper prank call her too? Then she'll see that 8 years old is too young for a phone!

  • crybabylu said on Dec 26, 2007....
    Oh no, she didn't! You handled it differently than I would have. Will be reading to see how it goes with the cellphone.
  • MissMimi said on Dec 26, 2007....

    I'm sorry to hear your MIL did that.  She was very wrong to do it.  Not only did she specifically go against your wishes, she undermined your authority in front of your daughter. 

    I think you and your wife need to let her know in no uncertain terms that that kind of high handed behavior will not be tolerated.  Shame on her.

  • minniemouse said on Dec 26, 2007....

    I LOVE your idea about having your daughter call your MIL about everything....annoy the crap out of her...and when she asks you to have her stop...just ignore her...  :-).....I can't believe she did this....I thought my MIL was a piece of work...but damn....my sympathies.....  :-)  Minnie

  • fantaasmixx said on Dec 26, 2007....

    that is fucking amazing, ahahha. i love your idea for revenge, it gave me a laugh. thanks for the tippage for future problems with my MIL. hopefully mine won't be that bad, ahhh.

    but yeah, you should probably talk to your wife about it. her mom will probably listen to her a bit closer than you.

    merry christmas (:

  • the_infernal_optimist said on Dec 26, 2007....
    Nice revenge! :-D I heartily approve.

    I can't believe (well, I can) that she went behind your back and did that! Undermining parental decisions is one of those things that raises my normally-hypotensive blood pressure fast and high. I foresee my MIL being the same way later on - we shall see!

    I'm more of a stick-in-the-mud than you are, if indeed you are, and I agree on the cell phone - but I guess since she has it anyway, you can probably find ways to use it to your advantage.

    ~Infernal
  • Mr_Box said on Dec 26, 2007....
    crybaby....how would you have handled it?
     
    MissMimi......I agree that what she did was completely wrong. We have spoken to her before and again yesterday. I'm not sure anyone can get through to her. Sadly.
     
    Minnie.....I was so mad about the whole thing, but there was nothing I could do at that point. So the incessant phone calls were the best revenge I could think of.
     
    fanta.....thanks for stopping by. I'm glad you liked my revenge tactics. My wife has spoken to her countless times. Unfortunately it's in one ear and out the other.
     
    Ms. Infernal.....I hope your MIL doesn't pull this crap later on. I'm upset about the phone, but you're right. I suppose since she has it, we might as well utilize it.
  • silverwhisper said on Dec 27, 2007....
    jack, is she often undermining your authority? cuz dude, that just ain't right. ah hell, you know it better than i do, no sense in my saying "me too!" i suppose...

    like everyone else, i think that what you told your daughter about how often to call grandma is the best revenge possible. :> i just hope for your sake that grandma's mobile phone is an in-network call from harper's phone. :D

    ed
  • phoeby said on Dec 27, 2007....
    oh how incredibly infuriating. See, that's one of my pet hates. I would've thrown a hissy fit if a mother-in-law or anyone for that matter went against what i said and bought the phone anyway. I have no patience when it comes to being overridden like that. I take my hat off to you!

    I love the payback options though....

    -snigger-

    phoeby


  • Mr_Box said on Dec 27, 2007....

    Ed.....she is often doing things of this nature. Which is why we rarely allow her to have much contact with our daughter. It's a very long story. And complicated.

    But I do hope she regrets her decision when she recieves fifty calls a day from her lovely granddaughter....

    phoeby....it was infuriating! I actually did get really pissed, but I had to save it for later when my daughter wasn't jumping for joy and telling Grammy how cool she was.

    Let's hope the payback works.

  • nytquill17 said on Dec 27, 2007....
    At this point, the advice columnists would say that talking isn't working, no matter how serious the talks are.  On some level, she doesn't really care about you or your family's happiness; she only cares about getting what she wants (which seems to be things like "control" and "the last word."  I wouldn't be surprised if cell phone hadn't crossed her mind as a gift until you said "no cell phone!").  And as long as she ends up getting what she wants, her system is working, and no amount of talking is going to override that "reward" effect. 

    You've basically got to short-circuit her and cut off any reward she might get from her actions - make her system not work for her anymore.  You've already taken away most of her time with her granddaughter, but that doesn't seem to be working.  Is there something else you can do (not tell) to her that will have any effect?  Screening presents might be a good idea in another situation like this one.  But then she will probably either give Harper the present anyway or make it very clear what she would've gotten her if only mean old dad hadn't taken it away.  Argh!

    At some point, if you haven't already, you'll have to explain to Harper what's going on, without overcomplicating it or villainizing anyone too much.  You'll be really limited in what you can do against your m-i-l if you're trying to keep it away from your daughter.  Fortunately she's old enough already to understand the basics.  No kid can resist the power of a present, but maybe she'll resent being used (I did, at her age!) and it will be a little easier for your family to present a unified front.

    My family has some control issues in it, too, so I kinda understand what it feels like.  Nothing as overt as this, which is both a blessing and a curse.  I'm sorry this happened to you! But I'm glad you had a nice Christmas anyway. :)  Oh, and I really hope your revenge idea pays off.  That would be so cool! :D
  • Mamie said on Dec 27, 2007....
    that is a shame she did that. I bet this is the beginning of you finding out just how controlling she can be. Sorry that you have to find that out. I found out about my MIL too and it is a damn shame, but she will eventually get what she gets...you will not have to say or do anything and she will ruin relationships by doing stuff like that.
    Even then truth be told, it is not satisfying to see. good luck!
  • quietone said on Dec 27, 2007....
    being a grandmother myself, I always ask my daughter about a gift of that nature before just going ahead with doing such.  Your MIL is wrong...but I see you have a "great" pay back in the works!! LOL  good luck!!  She being only 8, she will probably loose the dang phone before too long anyway.
  • GracefullyGrowing said on Dec 27, 2007....
    Giving the grandchild whatever they want does not say "I love YOU, grandchild" to me.  It says "I want you to adore ME."
     
    I have in-laws like this too.  It *really* sucks. They gave my daughter whatever she wanted, whatever she asked for.  Even to the point of when said daughter (as a teenager) was not happy with parents rules, said grandparents told said daughter - "Move in with us!"  - and she DID.
     
    I nearly had a meltdown at that one.
     
    ~Grace~
  • wakingharmony said on Dec 27, 2007....
    Hi there Mr Box!! Merry Christmas!!! Sorry I took so long getting here....if you know me by now~` you know I get lost and Scatter brained at times..... and right now I am keeping an eye on the grand children ....my i don't remember my little one so full of energy! Now I remind my self of my Dad. I remember him saying that.. oh well you have fun enjoy your family... {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{Mr Box & Family}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
  • polarheart said on Dec 27, 2007....
    Well, I must agree about the cell phone issue. . .but wait until you hear this!  Tigger's aunt and uncle bought him an electric piano (no not a kiddies one) no, it is the size of an adult keyboard and looks pretty darn close to the real deal.  Tigger is not even 4 years old yet - - - what were they thinking???  I dont know where we are going to put the darn thing!
  • wakingharmony said on Dec 27, 2007....
    Oh And I'm sorry I would not do to my Children what i would not want some to do to me....... If Mom & Dad say "No" It is No! But I think you will get that message across!
     The whole idea of a Phone isn't the issue.... I think with the way things are now days..I'd like my little one have a emergency phone.... with only those numbers in it.  The Phone was not a toy when i was a kid.....and talking on it was very short...... oh my the years...my achin bones hehe.....Too funny post!!!
  • checkeredpast said on Dec 27, 2007....
    i fucking hate mothers-in-law in general, but when the biotches insist on overriding parental authority, i say it's witchcraft and light the frigging torches.
     
    And what is this "I had no choice but to let it happen?" suggestion: testosterone supplements
     
  • Mr_Box said on Dec 27, 2007....

    Nytquill.....talking definitely has not worked. I could try and explain it to my daughter and let her know that Grammy is breaking rules. Maybe that might help?

    It's all just very frustrating. And it is about control. Screening presents is our only option. And I'll just have to live with the fallout when she undoubtedly lets my daughter know that the only reason she doesn't have something is because of me.

    Mamie....she is definitely ruining her relationship with us. It was already on shaky ground to begin with.

    quietone.....she will probably lose the phone or break it. And if she does, she's not getting another one.

    grace.....you hit it on the head. It's not about loving my daughter. It's about wanting my daughter to love her. And giving presents is the only way she knows how to get that sort of approval. It's sad.

    wakingharmony.....thanks for the Merry Christmas. I'm not so much mad about the phone as the fact that she went against my wishes. At least you as a grandmother understand that what the parents say goes.

    polar....oh I hate it when people buy stupid gifts like that too. It is irritating isn't it?

    checkered past.....testosterone supplements? Thanks. But I've already got enough to go around.

    I just didn't want to yell and scream and call my MIL a bitch in front of my daughter. I preferred to keep her Christmas happy. So no, there wasn't anything I could do at that point but let it happen.

    I wasn't going to take her favorite Christmas gift away after she already had it in her hand. I'm not that kind of asshole.

  • wakingharmony said on Dec 27, 2007....
    You did good Mr Box!!!!
    polar I got my 7 yr old a play keyboard but mommy was with me and said it was ok with her...
    checkerdpast~ Im a Good MIL
  • destinydiva said on Dec 28, 2007....
    lmao!!!  revenge is sweet :-)
    aww I can see why your frustrated though, my mum does similar things all the time,
    as you grow older you realise mums dont always know best....  its just that mums dont always learn that lesson huh?
    :-)  xx
  • queenparanoia said on Dec 30, 2007....
    hahahaha payback is a bitch!!! whahahahaha tell harper to ask grandma where babies come from!!! whahahahahaha that would totally annoy her!!! although mr. box i hope you could teach harper the responsibility of having a cellphone...;) happy holidays!!!
  • Mr_Box said on Dec 30, 2007....

    Ms. Harmony.....thank you. And don't listen to checkered past. I know there are a bunch of good MIL's out there. Just not mine.

    Miss Diva.....revenge is sweet isn't it? I'm sorry you can relate to this.

    Miss Paranoia......payback is a bitch. I'm looking forward to seeing how long before Grandma goes nuts.

    She's already been bombarded with lots of useless calls. Sometimes she doesn't answer anymore. It must be working to annoy.

    I have been teaching her to take care of the phone. So far, she's coveting it like it's a piece of gold. Let's hope that lasts.

  • queenparanoia said on Dec 31, 2007....
    mr box: oh i hope she took care of the cellphone... remember i got mine twice stolen already!!! so tell harper to be careful... =)

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